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I'm pretty sure Mmartin has said this will be considered for after launch, which is good news. Can't remember when or where that was (possibly a stream) but the consensus is clearly in favour of allowing ped skins so surely it'll be on the to do list 🙂

I just did a nightmare mode game, my friend died in about 2 minutes and I barely escaped. We didn't even find the ghost room. Actual nightmare.

Lookin' good boiz also really resfreshing to see that you're keeping things open to those who are interested, but not necessarily fully-versed in the law (as we've seen countless times before, this just ends up being pretty toxic). I like the direction things appear to be going in, so good luck!

Couldn't agree more - there are so many more options now that weren't even fathomable on SAMP. Plennnnty more to consider! Glad that you like the idea of an art gallery. I'm not sure how feasible it is to have actual, physical art objects in the game without it being labour intensive to maintain. However, a halfway house solution could be that there's a generic blank object that looks like a painting, then when you get close and press a button, a popup appears with the actual painting itself (basically linked to somewhere on the internet, an image file of course). Not quite the same as having art that can be bought etc, but at least it can be displayed. With media, I agree that XM stations are a must and that we need to support players who are going to run their own stations as well. Sadly these have never been money makers, but again, I figure that this is potentially where Gov can step in and make up some of the money. Agreed as well that it'd be great for having some kind of in-game "charts" for players involved in music production RP. Tourism is indeed interesting. I'd see it more as something that we do by default, but its ulterior OOC motive should be to promote the server not just the city itself. Naturally we'd focus on the legal aspects of the server, but tbf I'm also down for creating some OOC trailers that reference both legal and illegal RP. That's not entirely related to this discussion, but is still something that I'd like to do. News stations is an interesting one. La Mama brought up a great model idea whereby having actual news companies isn't essential to the news scene. I quite like it but also respect anyone who wants to set up their own outfit. Just that it often takes a lot of management and is generally thankless. Agreed also that new revisions and ideas are needed on in-game news scripts and television. Ideally we want something as realistic as possible, but at the same time accessible so that people can actually see it. Perhaps an option to tune in to live streams using the phone? Then we're getting into Twitch territory but I'm kinda here for that too.

Brilliant this is really good food for thought, thanks for sharing and for the links and references to how it works in real life too. I'll have more of a think about this and see about pulling something together. I imagine something like this could work well with the Twatter social media feature too. I'm also personally more of a fan of shorter bite-sized news anyway. Attention spans in the real world are lower than ever before, we've got a scrolling culture now, so it makes sense for this to translate IC anyway. Great contribution though thanks again and feel free to add any more ideas that spring to mind 👍

That's an interesting idea for media actually - being paid per article as a "contributor" sort of thing. Keeping in-house staff for a single news faction was always difficult, as we saw with the ongoing rise and fall of SAN. Perhaps that model would actually work better. I'd also be interested to see whether any developers have plans or ideas in mind for how news works in the script itself. The obvious answer is a phone app, which I think sounds doable. But when we get into the realms of TV and radio broadcasts, I'm not so sure. Most folks fell out with the idea of a global IC chat a while back, but maybe an opt-in alternative combined with TV script could work. On the topic of support for this sort of RP, paying for the articles or contributions is a clear win. However arguably that'd be paid by a business (or selection of businesses).. but maybe in the beginning, we just cover it ourselves as a sort of press wire to encourage news articles getting going in the first place. If a news app isn't going to be there for launch, this could be a forum section. Good thinking though I like this train of thought.

Ur cows are cute. Also we stan the staff pic.

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Yeah there's still plenty of us around after all, even if there's gonna be a great illegal scene alongside it. Thanks! 🎵 I love you, San Andreas 🎵 Thanks for your feedback and yeah, couldn't agree more. It's great to hear you're into music and love the idea of forming a band! Hopefully you find some likeminded people to join you. I'll keep an ear to the ground and will connect you if I come across anyone. Also fully one hundred percent agree about the music industry, hiring of bands for venues and live music, big fan of that. What's your opinion on how it would work in practise - do you think we'd only realistically recognise people who have actually produced their own music? As in, basically disallowing claiming famous songs or other people's works as your own? I think this is pretty essential imo. Yep - hoping to get lots of videos and music and all sorts out of this. And the great thing is, it's something that so many people can get involved in. Just required creativity and talent, then we (the Gov) would be there ICly to help out with whatever's needed, and OOCly we can think about how the wider picture actually works. We can ask questions like "Should we have an area of the forums dedicated to the charts and in-game music?" and "Should we have an art gallery and if so where, how would it work, how do artists get paid?" etc. The main thing is gathering people who are interested in this RP together. Oh another thing to bring up is Sport, which is likely gonna fall under our remit as well. I've never really seen sports done particularly well on any other server, has anyone else? Open to ideas on that one.

Ahhh ok right I think I understand this side a bit more now - so are you suggesting that "Anything which is not covered in the game, such as sports, can be substituted with what's going on in its real life equivalent"?

Yeah exactly, agree wholeheartedly on this point. The server is naturally going to progress in its own direction and folks shouldn't be afraid of doing that for fear of being told "this isn't happening in LA" and to some extent, "this wouldn't likely happen in LA". As largehazard said, it's good to set things up properly in the beginning, then see where the RP naturally takes us.

Thanksss Appreciate it, if you want any more help with getting things off the ground then hmu! Teehee smirk. Thanks and indeed we do! Makes it come to life a bit more and links in with a lot of civilian RP, especially politics. I've also added a link to a discussion on how the Government can support media and journalism (along with other civilian RP) below, so anyone wanting to get involved with this stuff is welcome to contribute to the debate:

Hold on what you’re kidding!? Shiiit so hold on any large scale events are gonna be a nightmare? Sorry derailing the original topic here, bottom line is that it sounds this just isn’t feasible.

Greetings also tell me about it this is like a high school reunion.

Oh you have quite a storied history! I think you’d have been playing around the time I was Mayoring around in 2012 and 13. I also relate hard to the “joined another community over the pandemic but never felt at home there”. This place is home for me. Anyways welcome back!

Might be a nice compromise yeah. Didn’t realise stability was such an issue on this client tbf. Stability always gotta come above immersion imo. Maybe this becomes more of a “nice to have” in that case.

Hmm I see where you're coming from now with the coastline thing. So it's more a case of "in theory, we are connected to the mainland, and the specifics of that are not fully important". In which case I think this could work. The more clear it is in the game, the easier or quicker it would be for players to understand that it is the case. In many ways, if the actual game could imitate the lore map then that's far more ideal. But yeah we're limited here and I do get that. With the point on the naming logic being immersion breaking, it wouldn't break my immersion but I suppose that's down to personal preference / how hardcore we're going. Don't think I've got any more major points to raise here other than what I've already mentioned.

Hmm I like the idea of less despawning tbf. I'm not sure how the limitations of the client are this time around. Also not sure how it'd work in terms of vehicle theft? Not against the idea in theory though - making the city feel more alive would be great even if it is just with parked cars.

We stan. Good luck to those who apply!

Cool. I'm still not massively offended by anyone who mentions Vice City or Liberty City, but as with a lot of this stuff... I guess it'll be down to preference on whether anyone tries to enforce it if it's brought up in conversation. Like I personally wouldn't be like "/b Mate, VC doesn't exist call it Miami". Maybe that'll never happen anyway idk, if we're saying that many players don't use these location names much any more anyway. Yeah connection to the mainland is an interesting one, I agree that there should be a connection in some way, it's just how it works in practise. Like I'm mainly thinking about the (potentially very rare) times that someone might drive a boat out around to a location which, according to the lore map, should actually be a landmass. If this happens, should they be informed that they can't go there? Or should an actual physical invisible wall be placed? I'm thinking mainly here from the perspective of new players rather than folks who have read up on the continuity that's been agreed. Or do you go down the other direction, which the other server took, of roleplaying a bridge and then accepting the coastline as a sort of large river running around the northern side? I wouldn't be offended by this but from what I've heard, it's not something that anyone else is keen on. Or are we suggesting that everyone needs to understand these principles clearly before being allowed onto the server, so that nobody has an excuse for piloting a boat to areas which are actually land? Or am I overthinking things. Maybe.

Ah yeah fun! I RP'd on there for a while over lockdown on Argent Dawn. Co-ran a magic academy guild. Was great fun but interest died down once the world started opening up again. Also totally agree with Horde - I just fell out with their story at the end of BfA (hardcore Sylvanas simp). So moved over to Alliance, but have no real loyalties anywhere. I mean tbf I don't play at all any more, last raid I did was Castle Nathria. Anyways yesss welcome to LSRP and hmu if you want more geek WoW chat.

Welcome welcome. Also your job sounds awesome. Horde or alliance tho? I gave up on WoW fairly recently but I only played for the story, which isn't great now imo.

Y'ello there. Also I still play Fallout 4 so much and my game is modded to hell. Not as much as Skyrim tho, that's basically a new game.

V happy you still here

This game is hilarious and great to play with others. The team is up to a max of four and you basically go into a haunted house to try to figure out what kind of ghost you're dealing with. A few jumpy scares and creepy moments. Hmu also if you're into it and we can team up some time. (There's also Ghost Exile which seems like a total rip from Phas, but it's newer and not as polished)