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I was wondering what the thoughts of the community are regarding the usage of real life internet/media content is during roleplay.

From what I saw, the idea of using current movies, video games, memes, youtube/podcast content is totally ignored during roleplay. I either never engaged with people who roleplay that, or everyone just ignored that and roleplayed gangs and mafias from the 80s and 90s. Now, I've been on the legal side most of my time spent on the server and no one ever mentioned anything close to that. And it's kind of a shame because there would always be something to roleplay around and not just hang on the block, play basketball and talk nonsense.

 

It feels weird asking the question, because it should be common sense. Right? We roleplay the current date and time, so I'm sure that people, especially teenagers should be aware of the content that is put out daily on the internet. The roleplay on LSRP was just what's happening on the streets.. and that's about it. Why not use real life tweets of celebrities, news articles, movies, games, even memes to create roleplay?

 

I might've just stumbled across the wrong people, or never got to talk about that stuff during roleplay. Do people talk about the elections? About new games coming out? About movies, actors and news? What is your opinion on this? Should we enforce the usage of real life content more?

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I think using real-life content makes it a lot more interesting and dynamic. There obviously needs to be rules and guidance on what can and can't be used in game. When terrorist attacks happen around the world, then I think that should be monitored (not prohibited) as well as other tragic events.

 

I don't see the harm in referencing real life situations and scenarios as it can only add to the Roleplay, not take anything away.

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This did occur multiple times within the community previously and lead to good and bad times. I only re-call one major event that occurred IRL and went to be carried on IG with 800 players all around it. It was the George Floyd situation, which originally triggered small, 30-40 player protests going out to literal 100+ players going out protesting on the matter. It was taken ICly and it was amazing RP for PD. There literally was an graduation that day and many new officers were taken to the streets when there were literal IG riots going on. We had to defend the Chief of Police and ES members whilst Gibbz was giving a speech to the media team. I am quite sure it was during the covid pandemic and George Floyd situation but please correct me if I'm wrong. The server management prohibited the speaking of the BLM/George Floyd thing after it because many mallrats took it as a chance to go fuck around and deathmatch.

 

That's just a bad example. Same goes with COVID. RPing it was restricted but talking about it never was. There have to be scrict lines set for things. You really need to understand you can't be talking about the game you're playing (I'd say make it forbidden to talk about GTA in general) but sure, playing games, watching series, reading books is fine. I've done this RP in prison and whilst doing passive RP and it's fun sometimes if the person is willing to watch the shows with you. Netflix, as one thing, as a party watch option for people who're subscribed and we used it with a few people back in the days.

 

Although, sometimes making references to movies and stuff like that might seem noobish. Sure you see people talking about it but any time anyone came around a organized crime faction (mainly the Italian ones) and came in like "OH I know what you're doing I watched "The Sopranos"" it just turned into massive cringefest. I feel like it's fine by now. Restrict bigger events like mentioned above by roskeii and make sure people do not use this for unnecessary purposes. A cinema type of project can be launched for licensed movies as well with one person streaming in Discord and others watching, but I am not sure what else we could implement or do to make it better.

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On 11/5/2021 at 4:06 AM, Duckling said:

or everyone just ignored that and roleplayed gangs and mafias from the 80s and 90s

a bold statement considering the main people who roleplayed around real life media were street gang rpers. Also, those gangs from the 80's and 90's never stopped existing so I'm not sure why that's even valid as part of the conversation. I've been part of countless factions where its members referenced real life memes/movies/events etc and even posted said memes on IC social media, along with memes that were made completely IC'ly about IC shit. Another thing worth noting is that your average teenager that's part of a gang doesn't care as much about memes and shitposting as some random white teen from the suburbs would be. Nor do they particularly care about the latest movies, elections, actors, video games etc, they care more about the world and culture that they're part of, the gang culture.

 

Using real life news articles in general can be tricky, especially among gang roleplay. some news articles might state that certain gangs do certain things that those roleplaying said gangs might not want to take part in ICly or even acknowledge that that organization does those type of things simply so they dont have to roleplay it (shit like child trafficking, pedophilia, rape etc), or said articles might reference california which shouldn't be done imo.

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5 hours ago, James1246 said:

a bold statement considering the main people who roleplayed around real life media were street gang rpers. Also, those gangs from the 80's and 90's never stopped existing so I'm not sure why that's even valid as part of the conversation. I've been part of countless factions where its members referenced real life memes/movies/events etc and even posted said memes on IC social media, along with memes that were made completely IC'ly about IC shit. Another thing worth noting is that your average teenager that's part of a gang doesn't care as much about memes and shitposting as some random white teen from the suburbs would be. Nor do they particularly care about the latest movies, elections, actors, video games etc, they care more about the world and culture that they're part of, the gang culture.

 

Using real life news articles in general can be tricky, especially among gang roleplay. some news articles might state that certain gangs do certain things that those roleplaying said gangs might not want to take part in ICly or even acknowledge that that organization does those type of things simply so they dont have to roleplay it (shit like child trafficking, pedophilia, rape etc), or said articles might reference california which shouldn't be done imo.

 

I agree. I've never been involved in much illegal roleplay.

I created the topic as I was curious whether people talked about media and the internet stuff that happend that day. I've always felt as if people completely ignored it. Or it might be the fact that I haven't been involved with people who roleplayed that and I simply missed those interactions. 

I probably stated some things that were off, hence that I never got in touch with those things, but had a different picture in my head. Sorry if that "offended" you. Thanks for your input.

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There was an actual equivalent Facebook on LS-RP during 2009/2010 but it didn't really take off. Feel free to give it a go but I can't see many people taking an interest. People are on the server to role play as opposed to worry what's happening on socials. 

 

Perhaps if SAN comes back then they could utilise this with articles and news etc.

 

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I understand where you're coming from Duckling, in general the way the LS-RP players engage with each other in regards to this topic is very simple. Majority of the players that have been for a while part of the LS-RP community now know that we do roleplay real-life things on LS-RP, things like movies, series etcetera is very acceptable because it is considered a small fraction of real life being brought to the virtual world. However big things such as COVID, racism, national socialism or political matters shouldn't be brought to the game server itself because it simply doesn't make any sense. The server has its own country (San Andreas) which has its own government so on and so forth, it simply doesn't make sense.

To dumb it down, small fractions of real life can be seen being brought to the server but bigger things not. The way every player should look at this is simple, what doesn't the game server have or can't provide to you as a player in terms of resources that you can replace with real life information? movies, series. LS-RP and San Andreas doesn't have any unique TV shows, movies or series to bring forward so you bring them forward through creativity and real life information to fill that void and maybe spark an interesting conversation in-character.

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On 11/9/2021 at 2:05 PM, Biskit said:

However big things such as COVID, racism, national socialism or political matters shouldn't be brought to the game server itself because it simply doesn't make any sense. The server has its own country (San Andreas) which has its own government so on and so forth, it simply doesn't make sense.

I mean I agree about COVID not being RPed, but I don't think IC racism wouldn't make sense IC, also, san andreas is a state not a country.

 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Biskit said:

However big things such as COVID, racism, national socialism or political matters shouldn't be brought to the game server itself because it simply doesn't make any sense. The server has its own country (San Andreas) which has its own government so on and so forth, it simply doesn't make sense.
 

While I agree with COVID and stuff, the rest matter for portraying a accurate modern day America. 

 

Racism, ICly shouldn't be banned because for one we're roleplaying in San Andreas; a state based off California. California was the foundation hotbed for White Power street gangs, and is one of the states where White Power gangbanging abruptly came to fruition, so banning racism also bans a native-Califas concept.

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IC racism wasn't really banned at any point as far as I know, to a certain point of course, as there were people that would express their IRL hate using their character, but in most of the cases that could be easily distinguishable. And it shouldn't be related to specific IRL events. OOC racism is a different thing.

 

However, various national and other types of issues, as well as relations to IRL events, should be kept out - it's not IRL, it's a completely different universe with an undefined prologue. G. Floyd was an IRL event and even if it was fun, it shouldn't have had an impact on the server timeline. However, if a similar event would've happened in the ls-rp universe and that would've triggered those events, it would've been much cooler.

 

However, I think LS-RP's approach to COVID was very good, allowing people to roleplay its existence, however, no one was allowed to roleplay having COVID, creating an environment where characters could establish their own protection measures, but avoid trolls which would go around coughing on everyone and doing '/me has corona virus'. Sadly, I hoped to see more precaution measures taken around, like GOV DOH was planning on creating roleplay around testing centers, but it is what it is, it was completely up to individual players.

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15 hours ago, Venta said:

IC racism wasn't really banned at any point as far as I know, to a certain point of course, as there were people that would express their IRL hate using their character, but in most of the cases that could be easily distinguishable. And it shouldn't be related to specific IRL events. OOC racism is a different thing.

 

However, various national and other types of issues, as well as relations to IRL events, should be kept out - it's not IRL, it's a completely different universe with an undefined prologue. G. Floyd was an IRL event and even if it was fun, it shouldn't have had an impact on the server timeline. However, if a similar event would've happened in the ls-rp universe and that would've triggered those events, it would've been much cooler.

 

However, I think LS-RP's approach to COVID was very good, allowing people to roleplay its existence, however, no one was allowed to roleplay having COVID, creating an environment where characters could establish their own protection measures, but avoid trolls which would go around coughing on everyone and doing '/me has corona virus'. Sadly, I hoped to see more precaution measures taken around, like GOV DOH was planning on creating roleplay around testing centers, but it is what it is, it was completely up to individual players.

That covid thing, I remember gang people, trolls or not, roleplayed infecting their opposition with covid, and that was bad.

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4 hours ago, betonists said:

That covid thing, I remember gang people, trolls or not, roleplayed infecting their opposition with covid, and that was bad.

 

It was like that before any rules surrounding COVID were implemented. It was handled quite well after rules were set.

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It's always been a mix of real world content & community content, but it's always been 30/70 with the people I've RPed with. Talking about an IG celebrity & seeing them in the club immerses you more into the experience. On the flip side, sometimes there's not enough community content to talk about, so discussing real world media like movies, music, tv shows, etc is the last resort to not run out of conversation. That's just my experience, I've always been more on the criminal side of RP. 

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18 hours ago, CyberSilva said:

I think it's fine to use real-life content for roleplaying, it could open up a lot of paths for amazing experiences. But one thing we should never roleplay is the whole Covid situation, f*ck that. We already have enough of it in real life. 😂

Pretty sure the rules we had regarding that on SAMP will carry over to this version, meaning Covid isn't a existing thing and cannot be roleplayed whatsoever.

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On 11/21/2021 at 12:40 PM, Xanakin said:

Pretty sure the rules we had regarding that on SAMP will carry over to this version, meaning Covid isn't a existing thing and cannot be roleplayed whatsoever.

 

Ya, that's a good thing in my opinion! I'm fine with real-life events to an extent. But Covid-19 was a little extreme to bring in game and well everyone was and is still getting effected by it everyday in terms of work, normal life, listening to it on the news 24/7 etc. The last thing we need is to hear it in game as well when we're just trying to play and then being forced into it to " wear masks ic " etc. The George Floyd issue mentioned in the above comments is fine for example, because you weren't necessarily affected icly by the situation if you didn't want to participate in it with the riots etc, but to RP a lockdown during a lockdown or something is ridiculous in my opinion as you're most likely trying to get away from that situation irl, hence playing a game. LSRP isn't supposed to drag worldwide panic like covid stress in game with you lol, a lot of people play to avoid irl issues I'm sure.

 

Now regarding like "end of the world" type scenario's, made up ones like the meteor "disaster" from 2014 was okay and more so for memories like when everyone hid inside the tunnel in SF for safety. It was creative, mapping was done to show roads were broken etc. It was something neat and we got to see it once which was worth it and it lasted like a day or so. It was more of a fun event for everyone to enjoy, something different. 

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Pretty big fan of separating real life from the game. Whether it's covid or, for example, police brutality situations, in my opinion it would be better if people only focused on in game police brutality situations and we create our own world. I've done it before though, there were some times that I RPed real world sports events in LS-RP, but admittedly, I would gladly rather talk about an in game sports league if there was one. Also never got down with the whole using pictures of people from real life/social media for my character either, a bit weird to me.

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Talking about news.. I think that there should be something like a team which eventually filters the news that could be integrated in-game. I think that in the end, we would just have more ideas to create great roleplay scenes and have fun as well as to create our own scenarios (obviously the integration of some news should not replace In-Game events but eventually help to create unique situations ). 

What kind of news am I talking about?
Not those that would affect in a totally direct and profound way the Roleplay ( just like Covid 19 ), but maybe those things that could indirectly "affect" the way of doing Roleplay.
( eg. mild increase of gasoline prices due to oil shortages - to me it is a situation that would not radically change the way of doing roleplay and could create interesting scenes ).

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Not a bad idea, if we were to decide to allow real life news into the server. Maybe the admin team giving SAN some guidelines, and from there the team at SAN determines what news gets allowed into the game.

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