30PiecesOfSilver

Bro, 7000$ Just means I cannot ever afford a shotgun or rifle to do outdoorsy role-play. And criminals robs every possible houses they can. And well, maybe not 2-3 shotguns but a mossberg 500 is like 400$ these days and that's a quality 12 gauge. The problem is y'all allowed criminals in gangs to get a PF license in the first place and allowed them to sell PF guns without many consequences. Guns are easily accessible in real life, go in a gun store, walk out with a pistol and a shotgun in less than 5 minutes. I don't know which world you live in where they shouldn't be accessible.

They're not good, they just deter law abiding citizens for the right to own firearms if they want to use them for anything else other than a crime. That's why I believe these long guns should be brought back down, I don't care about the pistols. But a 870 shotgun isn't the price of a car IRL. How is 7,000 bucks for a shotgun vs a 12,000 dollar car realistic? Like you go to cabelas or bass pro shop and I can walk out with 2-3 shotguns for under 1000$ Long guns aren't concealable and rarely used in shootouts. I haven't seen many shotgun or rifle murders on ls-rp so far.

Agreed, I think stricter PF licenses regulations needs to be enforced tbh, and I mean ooc rules

Blame the street gang deathmatchers

Look, I can understand the reasoning for expansive pistols as they're the most used firearms out there and they can be easily concealed and can be ass-pulled. But why in the world is a shotgun 7,000$ and 8,000$ for an M14 rifle? These prices makes no sense at all, I know you guys are trying to reduce the shootouts but at least those type of firearms that requires role-play to carry around should be lowered back to their original prices. I'm not going to role-play going hunting if I can lose 8,000$ which is the totally of my bank account if someone follows and steals me. This is just ridiculous!!! And I'm also including revolvers as they're not used by many since they have a slow reload and low capacity (6 rounds). Which is why I feel heavy pistols (Desert Eagle and Massive Revolvers should be role-played before being pulled out and some might not be even able to be concealed) If you've ever shot a 44 mag or a desert eagle, there's no way in hell you can conceal a S&W 629 lmfao. As I said there's no logic in trying to conceal a massive pistol like a 44 mag or a desert eagle, for reference These below needs to be adjusted back down to their original prices. "Heavy Pistols" Malt Boa -375$ Ruby Goshawk -375$ H&L Bald Eagle -450$ Malt Single Action -350$ Shotguns Malt 1883 (Original price 480$) Knight 500 (Original price 500$) Moore 870 (Original price 600$) Knight 590A1 (Original price 600$) Moore 870G (Original price 620$) Bolt-Action Rifles Springer 1861(Original price 900$) Semi-Automatic Rifles Springer M1A1 (Original price 860$) Futon P14 GBP (Original price 960$) Ruby Mini-41 Tac (Original price 960$) Put these prices back, as these firearms can be used for role-play and I haven't seen these really used in shootouts to be honest as no one walks the street with a 12 gauge or rifle on their backs. Also, heavy pistols shouldn't be able to be concealed.

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Known for being a being a cop that shoots lazer beams through his eyes or smth

I know where he's at

Eating pasta

Look what I found what a find! Seeing you boldly admit to breaking rules while gunning down a random masked player is quite the show. Your expert display of cluelessness and rule-disregard is a real spectacle. Going forward, just think of your words as those of a certified clown.

Ah, naturally! Because what could possibly demonstrate a commitment to immersive role-playing more than championing the esteemed "gangbanger" collective? Your unparalleled mastery of the streetwise thug persona is genuinely awe-inspiring. And might I say, your impeccable grammar and punctuation perfectly mirror the sophistication of your role-playing skills.

John Cena is a much better actor

Quality>Quantity

Sorry not trying to flame but LOL. Yeah, ROE's and in depth faction war rules might work. But right now server truly is half cops and robbers deathmatchers They don't work because it's not wars, but straight murder for so little "beef". I seen people getting into shootouts for basically an insult.... The server's state makes it not that enjoyable, and if your true heavy role-players leaves, then the rest will crumble. Might as well become a dm server or a light rp server, because no forced ck's means light-rp

He's 100% right and forced ck's have to be a thing. That's not even a choice at this point, it's a requirement.

Well, then to add to this, then give another character slot, force the CK and if they can't afford 5$ then they make a new character, and lose their assets. Otherwise suicide by cops will continue and all of the dming as well. We're on the edge of having DOC in the game, but it'll be mostly empty since people will die to avoid prison. "Like a reset character slot"

A name change costs 5 bucks, 5.50USD/5Euros I don't care if you have to pay for it, if you can't afford 5 bucks once in a while to give a minimal support to a freely hosted server then I don't know what to say. 5 bucks, just don't go to starbuck for a day, ain't no way you can't afford 5$

Oh and opened 2 random street gangs faction thread and yup, bunch of dming stuff Not flaming, just being real. I opened 2 RANDOM faction threads and this is what I see.... (On their last page)

Hello SCANDALOUZ, even if I hate to say it you are right. First off, honestly the biggest issue when it comes to role-play is the street gangs issue. Street gangs deathmatchers are representing over 80%(aprox) of the forums report and ban appeals. Go check it out for yourself if you don't believe me. So clearly that's the first thing we need to address. Why are street gangs an issue (Not every players but a lot of them). Well they're an issue since they have a mentality that winning a shootout means success, somehow. When in reality they should go play on GTA online. The whole point of the server is to create a narrative experience for yourself and the ones around it, may it be in passive or active scenes. You have to understand that legal factions, such as the fire departments are going to get burnt out because of y'alls constant shootouts. It HAS to stop. I don't care if we have to cut half our player base and ban these guys. They're not creating role-play anyways but rather hurting the server more than helping it. They're extremely toxic ooc and post deathmatching videos in their own faction threads... Like bro who cares? It's cool maybe once in a while but anyone can pull up a gun on someone not expecting it. You're not cooler because you kill people every single day. How do you fix it? Harder punishment (I know staff is going easy because of player pop), yeah we'll lose players but we'll gain quality. It's not like we need those deathmatchers anyways. I agree 100% with forced ck if you do any suicide by cops. If you put yourself in the shoes of your character would you REALLY want to die instead of prison. Most likely not, go watch situations after pursuits and shootouts in real life. You'll see they surrender most of the time because at the end of the day we're all deep down scared of dying. Forcing ck's would decrease the amount of dumb 1 gangster vs 10 guys shootout dramatically. One of the other issues that needs addressing is PF license. Now prices got jacked up to insane amounts where a car is worth 2 pistols.... Not the right approach guys. We need ooc rules that makes sense and are somewhat realistic. First ooc rule, if you are associated criminals organizations that "Fly the colors" then you cannot apply or own a PF license, and if you lie you get banned and PF license banned. Other ooc rule, no selling of firearms through the PF license program unless APPROVED by administration. Why? Because you get people making characters just to get guns and sell them or give to their friends. Why only street gangs, you hate them? No I don't but their RP for the most part is really poor, and they shoot people for no reasons.... Some of the street gangs have proper RP and props to them, but right now it's a minority and I don't side with cops or street gangs, I'm literally a meter maid in game... "COPS TURF CAMPS DAVIS/RANCHO/STRAWBERRY ALL DAY" You guys are the literal reason why they do, not their fault you create shootouts every 5 mins....

We have to find a way to make it work somehow. Like it can't be 1000% realistic, but just enough so it makes sense.

Don't get cocky now, kid

Patience of a God while dealing with those forums reports all day. I'd go crazy in a day. Keep at it nature

Amen to that! The whole point of RP is to have fun while creating a dynamic narrative experience for you and others around. Some people makes winning like it's the only thing that matters which is a pity considering we're here to just have fun. Winning in a RP game doesn't mean you're winning IRL...