Sheriff's Department & You!

[ScubaStef]

7 hours ago, xime said:

I believe that academies should be NPC'd and not actually be given IC'ly, but rather have an exam that must be completed when you request this and then you'll have field trainings.

I personally don't like the idea of this just because it cuts back on interaction between the faction itself and the community by a considerable margin. The training bureau exists primarily to "train" people coming into the faction through an IC academy and would be completely useless if the academy was NPCed entirely. Currently, we have about 24 people in the training bureau. If we took the academy out, those 24 people would end up getting knocked out of the bureau.

[skyrocket]

3 hours ago, Stefern said:

I personally don't like the idea of this just because it cuts back on interaction between the faction itself and the community by a considerable margin. The training bureau exists primarily to "train" people coming into the faction through an IC academy and would be completely useless if the academy was NPCed entirely. Currently, we have about 24 people in the training bureau. If we took the academy out, those 24 people would end up getting knocked out of the bureau.

Doesn't have to, they could be taking the new people out on patrols and teach them stuff, have them go through a program where they need to complete specific things. It's just an idea tho idk.

[ScubaStef]

22 minutes ago, xime said:

Doesn't have to, they could be taking the new people out on patrols and teach them stuff, have them go through a program where they need to complete specific things. It's just an idea tho idk.

You're talking about the field training program, which we also already have.

[Sergi]

In my honest opinion and as a member of the Sheriff's Department who's had to endure 4+ hr long academies in the past, there still needs to be an IC section about academies and not completely make them forum based, certain stuff can be left out of the IC academy itself since well, realistically, the LASD's academy is a 22 week program and it is not feasible to teach everything in the manual and each procedure through in-game means, I just think that's a thing of the past and it's cumbersome both for attendees and conducting instructors.  HOWEVER, I've always envisioned it as there should be a section where basic procedures and most common stuff is taught IC and the rest is NPC'd, the students are given the material they'd realistically learn during those 22 weeks and then, they take the exam, it encourages actual IC interaction and getting to meet the recruits but still doesn't force them to have to endure such long academies that, let's be honest, are just tiring and boring, and most of the time people don't actually pay attention to them / it's just a bunch of regurgitating procedures.

[jack]

Due to structural change within the Faction with us now incorporating the prison/jail into Sheriff's our academy for new people joining the faction is changed, meaning you won't be learning everything during the initial recruitment anyway.

 

You'll mainly be learning the basics and everything surrounding custody RP. Only once you've got past this you'll then join something called Patrol School and here is where you'll go through everything surrounding patrolling and all the policies and procedures.

 

This is prevent over-bloating people with information and expecting them to learn everything from the academy. How we're going around the academy is still undecided right now, we need to look into the logistics of it.

 

Once you get accepted into our academy, you should be going through the manuals and getting caught up on we do things ready for playing. But at the moment it'll be trial and error for how it works indefinitely. Once the server is open and we've done 1 or 2 recruitment drives, we'll evaluate how it went and work on the process to ensure it's smooth for everyone involved.

[Duckling]

My opinion is that the in-game academy is a necessary process that every recruit should go through. Mainly under a group environment with other recruits and Training Bureau personnel.

 

Settling in is a very important step into joining the Sheriff's Department. I'm thinking that it's way better to make a recruit feel comfortable and get a better grasp of their actions on the field by doing Custody and Patrol school roleplay, instead of removing the whole academy and throw them on the street where they have to do Field Training Patrols with FTOs (Field Training Officers) that take it seriously and don't allow many mistakes, ultimately leading to a bad interaction with the trainee and leaving them anxious and scared of the future DORs (Daily Observational Patrol).

 

Leaving some room for recruits to experience some fun roleplay during the classes and during custody would settle them the best and make a prime deputy out of them.

 

Some find the academy classes where you go over the manuals lenghty and boring, but contrary to that, the Training Bureau gets valuable information. Example would be whether the recruit receives information well, how they behave, their roleplay quality and engagement. That being said, stay active even during classes, the /me's and chats are being tracked and you will be graded internally and eventually booted out if you don't meet the requirements.

 

We've had the academies and the Training Bureau for the longest time and it's one of the key aspects in our faction. I wouldn't never consider a removal.

[Kirill_Ustinov]

What if somebody has a busy schedule during the academic hours. People got jobs, some paying their own bills. Not to mention, people take extra shifts to keep their jobs. This Covid shit ain't made it easy on people keeping jobs, and some people wish to RP a deputy. They could pull their hours...after their work hours.

 

Question here is...will there be private academies for people who couldn't make it into the academy date. Instead of just "Sucks to be you, you should of joined us decade ago". Its easy to say it when your part of a faction for numerous years, what about new people...what's gonna be the compromise here. 

 

And umm...if you got 20 people in academic division, private academies for certain individuals shouldn't be a problem. And that's coming from an experience, I used to train multiple people...2-3 hour sessions with each one...but that depends on a person, if he or she is willing to give a damn about simple life circumstance.

 

 

I'm supportive with the IG academy, show and tell...its just a question of compromise. You cant expect people ditch their work for academy, even so..those people would be active after their work hours. What's the strategy for that? Keep in mind, we ain't 16 anymore. A lot of people here are over 25 and got everyday shit. What's the flexible act here.

 

 

(Phone)

Edited November 24, 2021 by Kirill_Ustinov

[ScubaStef]

47 minutes ago, Kirill_Ustinov said:

What if somebody has a busy schedule during the academic hours. People got jobs, some paying their own bills. Not to mention, people take extra shifts to keep their jobs. This Covid shit ain't made it easy on people keeping jobs, and some people wish to RP a deputy. They could pull their hours...after their work hours.

 

Question here is...will there be private academies for people who couldn't make it into the academy date. Instead of just "Sucks to be you, you should of joined us decade ago". Its easy to say it when your part of a faction for numerous years, what about new people...what's gonna be the compromise here. 

 

And umm...if you got 20 people in academic division, private academies for certain individuals shouldn't be a problem. And that's coming from an experience, I used to train multiple people...2-3 hour sessions with each one...but that depends on a person, if he or she is willing to give a damn about simple life circumstance.

 

 

I'm supportive with the IG academy, show and tell...its just a question of compromise. You cant expect people ditch their work for academy, even so..those people would be active after their work hours. What's the strategy for that? Keep in mind, we ain't 16 anymore. A lot of people here are over 25 and got everyday shit. What's the flexible act here.

 

 

(Phone)

I have work just about every day of the week and I’ve been getting stuck with 16 hour shifts lately, but that doesn’t really stop me. The academies are typically scheduled on days that people don’t have real life commitments that they have to tend to. The academy instructors have real life commitments like any other person here, so I personally don’t think scheduling is going to be a problem. And as far as I’m aware, private academies have always been a thing for people that couldn’t attend the scheduled sessions. 

[Parzival777]

3 hours ago, Kirill_Ustinov said:

What if somebody has a busy schedule during the academic hours. People got jobs, some paying their own bills. Not to mention, people take extra shifts to keep their jobs. This Covid shit ain't made it easy on people keeping jobs, and some people wish to RP a deputy. They could pull their hours...after their work hours.

 

Question here is...will there be private academies for people who couldn't make it into the academy date. Instead of just "Sucks to be you, you should of joined us decade ago". Its easy to say it when your part of a faction for numerous years, what about new people...what's gonna be the compromise here. 

 

And umm...if you got 20 people in academic division, private academies for certain individuals shouldn't be a problem. And that's coming from an experience, I used to train multiple people...2-3 hour sessions with each one...but that depends on a person, if he or she is willing to give a damn about simple life circumstance.

 

 

I'm supportive with the IG academy, show and tell...its just a question of compromise. You cant expect people ditch their work for academy, even so..those people would be active after their work hours. What's the strategy for that? Keep in mind, we ain't 16 anymore. A lot of people here are over 25 and got everyday shit. What's the flexible act here.

 

 

(Phone)

Read my reply, I've mentioned that private academies can be held for people that can't make the pre-set dates.

[Parzival777]

21 hours ago, xime said:

I believe that academies should be NPC'd and not actually be given IC'ly, but rather have an exam that must be completed when you request this and then you'll have field trainings.

The reason why LEO factions have academies is the same reason we don't expect you to know the manual 100% at the start. You learn everything from purely roleplaying with members, it's the same thing you do on the academy, yes you have to read and understand what the instructors are saying in case you need to talk, but other than that most of it is basic roleplay.

[Kirill_Ustinov]

That's what's up. My bad, didn't see the comment earlier. Good stuff my dudes. 

[JJABOTULE]

When do you guys think you will start recruitment?

[Duckling]

17 minutes ago, JJABOTULE said:

When do you guys think you will start recruitment?

 

Per MMartin all legal factions are required to open their recruitment processes within 14 days of the server launch.

[realwale]

Hey, first of all, good luck! Roleplaying an sd, especially within this enormous GTA V world must be fun  Are you guys planning to open the recruitment process soon ?

Edited December 2, 2021 by realwale

[luca]

36 minutes ago, realwale said:

Hey, first of all, good luck! Roleplaying an sd, especially within this enormous GTA V world must be fun  Are you guys planning to open the recruitment process soon ?

Hello, the recruitment process will be open within the first two weeks from the opening date.