Can we bring back the old playerbase count?

[Dos Santos]

Just now, Flimerus said:

 

God forbid we inject some fun into the server, right? We must portray Los Angeles to the fullest!!! I would argue the server was way more brandable and enjoyable with SASD era.

Jokes aside, LFM can directly improve the situation regarding FD.

How can LFM/OPS improve FD if nobody is applying? If you can give some examples or advice, that would be great as it’s totally out of their hands to get people to apply?

[Flimerus]

23 minutes ago, Dos Santos said:

How can LFM/OPS improve FD if nobody is applying? If you can give some examples or advice, that would be great as it’s totally out of their hands to get people to apply?

 

 

Remove the barrier to entry would be a start?

- In game events?
- Fires in hotspots that show organisation, orchastration and entice people to join

- Recruitment Fairs, again advertising in game that would entice people, focus on bringing attention to players surrounding  FD.

- Enable new joiners to operate the ambulance and heal, its not hard  to do some roleplay surrounding patching someone up, atleast until members  are rolling in

- Increase pay, some sort of incentive for people to actually join the faction, is there an influx in new players? Accomodate them.

 

 

And not even that, LFM should be questioning why is this legal faction suffering, what's been done previously and if it's failed so aggressively then why are we carrying this support burden if there's no prevail coming from it?

If all else fails then just turn it into a command to join the job and scrap it as a faction entirely similarly to /mechanicjob

 

Sorry to upset  the homies in FD  though, I'm know that a bunch of  you are committed to the cause there but I had to use you as the example.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Flimerus

[jack]

6 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

- In game events?
- Fires in hotspots that show organisation, orchastration and entice people to join

- Recruitment Fairs, again advertising in game that would entice people, focus on bringing attention to players surrounding  FD.

- Enable new joiners to operate the ambulance and heal, its not hard  to do some roleplay surrounding patching someone up, atleast until members  are rolling in

- Increase pay, some sort of incentive for people to actually join the faction, is there an influx in new players? Accomodate them.

 

Sorry to say, all of this has been done over the course of 17 years, it will not change. Join FD if you want to see change and push activity.

[Flimerus]

5 minutes ago, jack said:

 

Sorry to say, all of this has been done over the course of 17 years, it will not change.

 

 

I've not seen any of those recently, or since relaunch (although they may have happened, they haven't recently).

And even if they have, why stop promoting them? They still need members they should be flat out invested in a constant cycle of recruitment.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Flimerus
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[DadoJ]

Imma touch upon this as a Faction Leader for FD.

 

20 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

Remove the barrier to entry would be a start?

 

Most definitely not. Entry "barrier" is an application, in-game interview lasting maybe 10-15 minutes, an NPC'd academy and a short exam. Should you pass all that? 3 patrols in total as a probie and you get to do your own thing on an ambulance. The idea that FD becomes a noob faction as portrayed before definitely won't happen as long as I'm a part of faction leadership. 

 

Not to mention, FD has an open recruitment constantly now. Need I put the bar lower cause people can't be fucked doing a simple application and a simple process?

 

24 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

If all else fails then just turn it into a command to join the job and scrap it as a faction entirely similarly to /mechanicjob

 

I don't even want to entertain this point in all honesty lol cause this must be the most brain rot reply I've seen thus far. And this thread is full of them. 

 

22 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

- In game events?
- Fires in hotspots that show organisation, orchastration and entice people to join

- Recruitment Fairs, again advertising in game that would entice people, focus on bringing attention to players surrounding  FD.

- Enable new joiners to operate the ambulance and heal, its not hard  to do some roleplay surrounding patching someone up, atleast until members  are rolling in

- Increase pay, some sort of incentive for people to actually join the faction, is there an influx in new players? Accomodate them.

 

Most if not all are done. Again, I'll sound like an asshole, but just cause you didn't see them, doesn't mean they don't happen. Everything FD has done change wise recently is lowering the bar. And we aren't gonna lower it any further. And, imma end this off that it's the community that needs fixing, not FD, nor any other faction. A faction's job isn't to spoon feed anyone.

[Dos Santos]

20 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

 

 

I've not seen any of those recently, or since relaunch (although they may have happened, they haven't recently).

And even if they have, why stop promoting them? They still need members they should be flat out invested in a constant cycle of recruitment.

All of this has been done - FD is the highest paid faction. As you can imagine people get bored with medical roleplay - you attend a scene and 9/10 the person who’s been shot doesn’t actually want to roleplay anything they simply just want to get it over and done with.  It’s a difficult one to actually address, and in my opinion isn’t the fault of LFM/OPS

[Angellify]

Why is the conversation at hand about FD? FD is a niche area to roleplay in, so obviously it won't reach crazy activity numbers like PD or street gangs. Even on GTA:World, a server that has 9x the LS-RP playerbase and a lot more features added in, FD still struggles. 

 

 

[Flimerus]

7 minutes ago, Angellify said:

Why is the conversation at hand about FD? FD is a niche area to roleplay in, so obviously it won't reach crazy activity numbers like PD or street gangs. Even on GTA:World, a server that has 9x the LS-RP playerbase and a lot more features added in, FD still struggles. 

 

 

I don't even know, they got a bit triggered when I mentioned it in the other post, which is fair, they roleplay there and I'm not informed on the ins and outs of what they're doing. 

Regardless, the point I made in the previous post around the track record still stands.

As well as prioritisation and revamping LFM.

 

  

58 minutes ago, DadoJ said:

I swear this is coming from a guy who wants HSIU and SASD back? Mind you own business, get the fact we're in 2024 (soon to be 2025) in your head, maybe you'd have more fun in-game tbh. 

 

This response was the least constructive thing I'd expect from the lead of a faction. Like bruh. If you bothered to read my posts previously you'd see why it was even mentioned. Instead you kneejerked and have immediately taken a position which frames you in a toxic  place, breathe rethink and come back with something atleast informative, like your previous post.

 

Regardless, all playerbase activity can be tied back to poor administrative decisions, lenient administrative punishments, and overall lack or priorities.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Flimerus

[79Casspeeer]

Im not going to read all of these posts I dont know why yall keep talking about this that when the admins won’t do nothing. My opinion is that Izumi is the problem lol and Im not the only one who said this, but you know how is it their egos big so dont think they will change something. I think this thread is a non sense one nobody won’t do shit and at the end of the day we still here talking about how we gon make LSRP great again.

[MattRossG]

Right now, it seems we are deviating from the core issue. Our discussion has turned into a constant argument from both sides. To move forward constructively, I propose we conduct a general poll within the community. This will allow us to gather opinions and establish a consensus on what the community wants, within reason.
 

We can argue about FD, SD, and legal factions all day, but it’s clear that SD has been given an ultimatum, and we need to wait for that to be fulfilled so LFM can make an administrative decision on the next steps.
 

Personally, FD has never been my area of interest, but following @jack’s suggestion, I’m willing to submit an application and join the faction to help out. I assure you, this will not be a half-hearted attempt.
 

Our focus should be on what the players want. A forum thread filled with complaints directed at Staff members isn’t productive. While I understand @Flimerus direction, it’s evident that we’re approaching a point where people feel their efforts are being undervalued.
 

@Cakehas implemented or plans to implement burglary features, which will benefit Illegal Factions significantly. I also appreciate the new lock pick system for cars, which could integrate well with the chop shop system.
 

Ultimately, this issue stems from the low player count and resulting frustrations. To address this, we could intensify our marketing efforts to remind people that "LSRP is still here."
 

Another suggestion is to transition to LSRP:V, utilizing the excellent work @danut has been doing and collaborating with @Helius to push this forward. In the meantime, @ROZE could set up a poll to gather genuine requests, ensuring we have solid data rather than a list of complaints.
 

This message is not a criticism of anyone, but rather a call for a more constructive and community-focused approach. A forum filled with angry rants won't lead to actionable plans. By gathering real statistics through a poll, developers and leads can devise a clearer, more effective strategy.

Another note @DadoJ is done well for FD and even @izumi but FD has historically been a struggling faction and I cannot blame them too much for FD's decline as the playerbase already is dwindling now.

It might be a little to late but I've @'d  the approriate people who has the approriate roles and we should utilze the head of player experience roles that have been introduced and start making moves and plans with these people who we can liase with as a community in a positive manner.

[DadoJ]

12 minutes ago, Flimerus said:

This response was the least constructive thing I'd expect from the lead of a faction. Like bruh. If you bothered to read my posts previously you'd see why it was even mentioned. Instead you kneejerked and have immediately taken a position which frames you in a toxic  place, breathe rethink and come back with something atleast informative, like your previous post.

 

 

Nope, believe it or not, whenever someone calls my faction dead, when it is out of my faction's control, you'll get a reply you got.

[Flimerus]

8 minutes ago, DadoJ said:

 

Nope, believe it or not, whenever someone calls my faction dead, when it is out of my faction's control, you'll get a reply you got.

And, like I pointed out, if its out of your control who does it fall too?

 

Again, my point is not that LSFD is doing anything  wrong, it's that LFM haven't invested into it, or it seems that way.

Regardless, LSFD was not the initial talking point, it was more important than that.

LFM issues
 

drug systems

 

Edited December 16, 2024 by Flimerus

[Cake]

Just now, Flimerus said:

And, like I pointed out, if  its out of your control who does it fall too?

God damn stop trying so desperately to find someone you can complain to.

 

Maybe, just maybe, it's no one's fault?

[Assilimwen]

i think we should just get ingame guys. even if its like 70 players if you join you're seeding the server. u can afk and go about whatever else you want to do. if more and more people do it it becomes a chain reaction. if 10 people see that the pb is 70 near peak time and hop on to afk, then the playercount will be 80 which will influence more people to hop on and so forth and so forth. seeding isn't an uncommon practice for different game servers.

Edited December 16, 2024 by Assilimwen

[hitmantrkst]

5 hours ago, Cake said:

Biggest bullshit in this thread, not gonna lie.

 

Lots of entitled and demanding people in here spewing bullshit lol

 

5 hours ago, Flip said:

IFM feeling entitled to development for the illegal scene? What a shock.

Can't expect much more than drivel to come from Cake mate. 

 

Let's also not forget the claims that his/her development work was that of his/her own, despite the majority (at least) deriving from previously released open source scripts that originated from other communities.

 

The clown face emoji is very fitting.

Edited December 16, 2024 by hitmantrkst