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Most of the jobs should be something that forces the player to interact with others, otherwise it creates a grind with zero role-play. However, there should be alternative 'script' jobs that allow people to get a foot in the server. Rather than wanting to buy a bigger and a faster boat, new players (who want to role-play a "civilian") should be wanting to find an in-character job (e.g. bartending, security) that will offer them a bigger amount of money. In my opinion, role-play jobs should be the most high paying ones. If you spent 3 hours of your life sitting behind a bar, serving drinks, you should be paid a generous amount of cash. Otherwise, this would force players to spend those three hours speedrunning a garbage truck or a taxi. @ROZE summed it all up for me as well.

There's a huge misconseption about what civilian roleplayers are. A lot of people seem to assume that a civilian roleplayer is just somebody who stands at the mall and does fuck all else, and if that's what you immediately think of when you think of civilian roleplay then I can confidently say that you have the completely wrong idea about it and should try to be more open about what civilian roleplay is. The bartenders and security guards in that club you went to, The taxi driver that picked you up, The guy doing taxes for businesses, That person you seen jogging along the beach, These are the people that make the world feel busy and alive. Do you really assume that every person you drive past is either a cop or a thug? When you actually roleplay in the civilian scene, you realise how many players are actually playing LSRP to, you guest it, roleplay something realistic. I've met so many amazing roleplayers who simply log on to socialise, go to work (an ic job like bartending, doing graphics, news reporting), go for a meal, then go home. I promise you that there are more people than you think roleplaying like this, and it's what fills up the world with normal, civilian people. When I was running Roze Enterprise we hired over 150 people across 2 years. Yes, one hundred and fifty people interested in civilian roleplay with one faction. We were one of the only civilian factions ever to provide full time jobs to anyone who was willing to put in the effort and trust me, a lot of people enjoyed roleplaying a full time job; bartending, doing security, trucking, whatever, with a team. The people that you see as mallrats are the same people that we turned away from the faction. You assume that they are civilian roleplayers, generally the people you are thinking of are just trollers. For a non-illegal faction, the amount of interest that we seen for civilian roleplay was overwhelming - Another civilian faction that did very well was Roux, which created a lot of jobs for the playerbase and created a lot of very high quality civilian roleplay. With good support for civilian roleplay it would be more common to see amazing civilian factions creating jobs and helping the economy, as well as filling in the empty space between illegal roleplayers and cops. If civilian roleplay was taken more seriously, you would see more IC businesses that are run realistically - Competing with other businesses, creating a job market etc, and not just a "front for my illegal faction". You would see in character news companies showing up to big events. You would see Los Santos University opening up and actually becoming stable. Civilian roleplay is the part that fills in all of the gaps to make the world feel alive, and not just a cops and robbers server. The two major issues that have been affecting the civilian scene are the economy, and the fact that a lot of people majorly misinterpret what civilian roleplay even is in the first place.

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'Computer Love' by Zapp & Roger was a song I heard in a random XMR radio. At the time, 24K Magic had just been released and is still popping. As you know, both those songs use the instrument called a 'voice box' or 'talk box'. After hearing this song on the radio, I can't stop dreaming about it and I wanted to buy one, but it is very rare to find in my country. Very, very, very few people have it and I haven't seen a single store that has it. But that changed in around 2018 when a major music store in my country had it for a limited amount of time. I wanted to buy it but I was just a kid, I couldn't afford it. Plus, the price of that thing is almost double the retail price in the US. For years I have been listening to this type of music and I just can't get enough of it. Finally, after about five years later (now), I've been able to buy one abroad and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I can say that this time of my life might be the most ecstatic I've ever been (minus the coronavirus pandemic and minor sicknesses that I had).

Hello everyone, I am Maxim, some of you may know/remember me as Frank Underhill and I'm currently in charge of the government faction here in LS-RP:V. With the move to GTA:V we decided to make major changes to the government faction, how it functions and its structure. Here are some changes we decided to take, with a brief explanation as to why we went that route: Los Santos City Government - We decided to revert back to a municipal system, the Mayor overseeing all government operations instead of the Secretary of State or the Lieutenant Governor. We went through multiple concepts and decided it would be best to re-introduce LSGOV, while not the best system - it is better than what we had before. Involvement - The government will be more involved with legal factions and the community in general. We want to introduce new concepts that weren't around on SAMP, with some already in place such as the city budget (which involves all government factions), in-game licenses and more. We want to maintain an interactive government, with useful services (both in roleplay and script-wise) that players could use. New services - We integrated new services into the faction, such as the Department of Medical Examiner-Coroner, firearm licenses and parking enforcement. We want to improve roleplay and move on from old concepts (such as impounding vehicles non-stop). *Everything is still being discussed and might change by the time the server releases. In order to support these new changes, we decided to open up recruitment and allow players to join the faction pre-launch. If you wish to take a look at our open vacancies go ahead and check our new forums: https://forum.lsgov.us/ We also have a brand new Discord server which can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVGfh3nsKP If you have any ideas/questions related to LSGOV feel free to write them down here, or join our Discord and message us there.

In my page of the book, your suggestion is great, but it should be proposed in a different better and more realistic way. And that one is through government act. Like everything that revolves around you IRL, politics mostly decide of people's lifes. And this one should also go through that. Pointing that, it will also add-on much of roleplay situations to the actual people who will carry on it. The other side of the coin also tells me that legalising this will most certainly boost up the drug market, even uncompetetive to the ones that try to ICly obtain and sell the illegaly provided drugs, especially marijuana. I'm suggesting to firstly have this proposal go through amendment via government and then offer something like this. Or maybe, just maybe people could make a public petition about this whole thing, that could go major in so many ways. Always open for creative purposes of your suggestion.

Civilian role play is a key part of an immersive experience for me. LS:RP had this weird divide and toxicity in relation to both criminal and illegal — we were mainly an illegal-focused community at the time and actual civilian role players were very far and few between. The importance, in my opinion, that we ensure the sides are half full for both aspects of role play within this community is high. Other communities have been conceptually destroyed by complete civilian role play, but this is a community-wide issue and not something that you can just change over night. It's a delicate problem with very little clear ways on how to combat it directly. In my opinion, the key factors that we, as a community, need to remember is that both illegal and legal can only work by working in tandem. Legal role play is a fantastic form of immersive role play and needs to be given the right tools to flourish. Scripts (whether it be phones, business-related scripts that support illegal role play with legal roleplayers) and direction are the most important. The legal role players in history were criminally underrated and they contributed a huge amount of role play towards the community over the years. The economy is a very delicate issue, but I've never really came to a fix or strategy to actually keep it at a stable level. An economic enforcement of prices IS a good idea, but if it becomes comedic then people will just make their own prices up that sound aesthetically realistic. I find it important that we do have a structured economy but it needs to be reasonable and thought through. The problem I have with these jobs that pay ludicrous amounts of money to all players to work in bars for four hours, is that they have absolutely no idea how to pour a drink or what alcohol is — this has ALWAYS been my gripe and something that money isn't necessarily good for. You're not going to hire someone if they don't know anything about the position, are you? So why did we excessively do it here? To merely open a business, and this IS an issue — but comes back to the feasibility issue legal role play has and always will have. I don't know if this has been spoke about so please direct me if it has but the limitations on certain types of the same business opening at the same time NEEDS to be enforced. If we have five bars open at one time, none of them will look busy and this isn't the aesthetic that we should pursue. It will be extremely deflating and underwhelming going into five different bars and having a stretched player-base. I've always been a fan of having a maximum amount of two 'bars' open at one time for an hour or so each. This allows a fluidity of different individuals being able to open their businesses on set times and allowing people to experience different bars with the same amount of players, rather than going into three bars with no players and one bar with all of them — it's important.

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You're absolutely correct, when it comes to misconception with civilian roleplayers, like I said a lot of has to be changed inside the circle for the end result to be beautiful. Now what you said about ROZE Enterprise - this is the point what I had in mind, you managed to create the scenarios for other people to join you and let's be honest here, the ROZE managed to up-lift the whole civilian roleplay scene in a sense. With the enterprise creating the base for roleplay the whole scene became better and more enjoyable, more alive. Yes, civilian roleplay needs help and support. I am not against any scripts or help, but with all due respect, when reading the main post of this thread it sounded more like "can you do something, because I can't enjoy it", "I need that so I can enjoy my gameplay" - this is why I emphasized the idea of trying to fix some of the mistakes by yourself first, then asking for something. Like ROZE mentioned, she managed to get around 150 people involved with her faction. It just proves, that some people just need guidance for their roleplay career (if you can say this in that way :D) to start.

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A subject I've been thinking about for a while is the legalization of marijuana on the server. As we all know, Los Santos is based on Los Angeles, and marijuana is legal for recreational use in Los Angeles. There are an estimated one thousand dispensary businesses in Los Angeles alone. Take five minutes to load up Grand Theft Auto V and cruise around Vinewood and you'll find that it's almost like there's a dispensary on every corner. I've noticed, at least in my experience, not a single roleplay server has chosen to roleplay legal marijuana - is there any chance LSRP could be the first? I believe it could provide a nice boost to drug roleplay as well as opening a new avenue for business roleplay. Perhaps with an in-depth drug system, street weed and dispensary weed could differ in quality as they should, meaning you'd be given the choice between cheap weed or high quality weed. What's everyone's thought on this?