A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive

[gillard]

14 minutes ago, Grover The Good said:

 

  

The post above is from one year and two months ago, taken directly from @Martin_Busato's original thread.

 

We all truly sleep in the bed we make. And if you sleep long enough on a badly made bed, you're bound to have nightmares.
 

 

"We're building something here, we're building it from scratch. And all the pieces matter."

I'll just leave this here.

Edited 3 hours ago by gillard

[Rye]

Mulled over for a bit and figured I'll leave a short comment to clarify on some things as well as express my personal stance. Whatever I say here is purely my own opinion and does not represent the staff team as a collective.

 

As an admin whose focus is primarily on SAMP, I would like to see a healthy coexistence between both servers once RAGE launches. I hope that with enough effort, we can retain players that also prefer playing SAMP and build a community that is self-sustaining, albeit not as populous as before. The proposed idea of separate staff members for each server sounds promising, and is something I myself have forwarded to internal discussions. As for whether we have enough manpower to actually accomplish that remains to be seen. Reading through the well thought-out comments in this thread has given me hope that it might actually be possible, and everyone's input has been tremendously insightful to me. 

 

All I have to say about RAGE is that I hope it has a successful launch and that players who are more into V than SA will give it a chance. I've seen the behind-the-scenes work and there's really a lot to look forward to. It has features that I would give anything to have on SAMP but it's not very likely due to technological constraints and the fact that our codebase is older than some players in here.

 

Still, I'm surprised and appreciative of how many people still would like to keep playing in SAMP, and I wish you guys would stop crashing out because in the event that we start to move forward more proactively and the issues are worked on, we ultimately still need roleplayers. And we can't roleplay if you're all banned lol

 

[gillard]

4 minutes ago, Rye said:

And we can't roleplay if you're all banned lol

This is the WHOLE point of this. Half of the community is banned because they thought they are above the COMMUNITY.

 

YOU ARE NOT.

 

Get your EGOS out of this thing and maybe start to actually enjoy the game? 😄

 

 

[Scumpy]

Been reading this for a while and wanted to finally chime in since others asked. You need to separate facts from assumptions and lies. It is clear as days that the main reason why you are seeing a decline in the community now is from the mistakes that the leadership put forward along with putting people in positions where they shouldn’t have been from the get-go. The decision making around a lot of things started before the first batch of official factions even got announced after the relaunch of SAMP. @Brigone being one of the firsts to vocalize the problems that the server was facing along with calling out bullshit that people were doing from the admin team and leadership perspective. The only reason that didn’t go anywhere was simply because of one reason. One person leaving doesn’t matter to us only because the server is doing totally fine and one leaving isn’t going to cause much of an issue. In other words, the admin team and specifically people in recognizable positions were too comfortable and let the server flow on. The next batch of folks started leaving when you saw that there was no progression in the script itself. The server becomes stall when there’s clearly no progressive updates, a roadmap that is ultimately outdated, along with the attention being at two different places. Why are you building on a foundation that is already in shambles.

 

I have been both in IFT, led an official illegal faction, led a legal faction, and eventually came into the staff team. Simply put, the culture is toxic in those ranks where you’re going to have three groups. The folks that are vocal, quiet, and shit talkers. I am not going to name anyone here nor do I care since I already have stopped playing in this community, but the vocal folks were already zoned out from folks that were in positions, and it was like we were going against a militia of a brick wall. @Kev and @Clack vocalized a lot of these things in the standard meetings we had along with suggestions that never went anywhere. Ultimately, the developer team got shifted like the times and nothing came out of it. All in all, the culture of this community was horrible in the admin ranks itself and the mentality majority held. I will not even get started in the legal side of the house and how people were harbored from punishments along with the recent things @Aloosh called out on the situation of alt accounts.

 

Marketing isn’t going to help this community gain numbers if internally those issues weren’t fixed. And I’m answering that question now as well they’re not going to be fixed only because of people and their egos. When you do call them out for their bullshit then they get censored or messages are removed. It’s the easiest thing they’ve done and will do. The main problem was the staff itself, and the positions folks held. The regaining of numbers is unrealistic when the serious folks themselves stopped playing. It’ll be very hard to bring them back due to them firsthand seeing the drama in the staff side. All in all, the community needs to realize that censorship and poor decision making from many folks is the reason we are here. We warned them about 8 months back that this is what will happen and these kinds of threads are what you will have to deal with if you don’t give transparency, updates, and honesty. They lacked in every area and here we are. I don’t mean to rub or derail this topic in any way, but it was worth putting this out there that these attempts in the backend happened, but these are the consequences of getting brushed off.

[Zaw]

What's currently happening to the server isn't the first time—this is almost an exact repeat of what led to its closure around 2021.

 

Management made the same mistake back then, shifted their focus on V while letting SAMP sink. It was a good call to bring back SAMP, brought in fresh players, and reminded everyone why this place has lasted so long. But, I thought they gonna bring SAMP for few months and re-launch V ASAP,  but it took almost 2 years and yet it's not relaunched despite the promises "SOON™" and ongoing work. 

Anyone who tried V knows the script itself wasn't the problem, we had all essenstial features to roleplay, but it flopped not because of the script, but because of the complete lack of transparency and the broken communication bridge between management and the players.  At the end of the day, it's all about the quality of roleplay, the fun and memories. We all agree that 150 dedicated, high-quality roleplayers  with the right staff is way better than a bloated server full of DMers, shitty roleplay.   

Management's one job right now is figuring out how to make LSRPV stay active with good roleplayers, Whether we like it or not, SAMP has a limited future—no matter how much we try to milk it. 

We don't have to compete with other servers on scripts. We can stand out with the quality of roleplay and a management team that truly listens to its community. There were so many SAMP servers with "better" scripts and features than LS-RP,  but they couldn't reach us because of the incredible quality of roleplay, fun and for its simplicity. Please don't take that away from us. With the right plan we can do that again on V. It's all about the roleplay and fun. I can spend a day doing /me and /do lines without any other feature and yet I'd have spent a memory day with real roleplayers.  

Community is passionate and they do care, otherwise they wouldn't bother their ass to write thousand words. Leadership it's time to come out with a big announcement and clear the air for everyone.