A VISION FOR THE FUTURE

[Mixo]

11 hours ago, Peter_Genusa said:

Player oriented, realistic/sensible roleplay focused 

Less bureaucracy 

More assistance and understanding from administrators to factions, I can’t get help with a chop shop and it’s access for months now, that doesn’t help anybody or make them eager to roleplay

This. As a faction leader, I see the blatant reluctancy of doing anything over the bare minimum. You literally have to chase them to get the bare minimum. Not to mention the ridiculous amount of staff members being unable to monitor a dead 100 man server. Incase of rule breaking, the community member is supposed to be an investigative admin and gather enough evidence just for the forum report to be handled and dismissed by the reported party’s admin buddy.

Edited October 27 by Mixo

[Mixo]

They deleted trksthtmn’s topic so fast and hushed it, wish they could support the community with such haste. The playerbase is on a free fall because the community is not stupid and there are plenty other alternatives.

[Sozza]

Why trksthtmn's post was censored? He made a great point and told the truth. 

 

[brigada]

welcome to democracy

[Dopelarge]

Make LS-RP great again ❤️

Edited October 27 by Dopelarge

[Mixo]

2 hours ago, Sozza said:

Why trksthtmn's post was censored? He made a great point and told the truth. 

 

The pitch of the "New LSRP is listening to the community!" is a hoax. The Soviet Union propaganda tactics are here since the begining, you know it and I know it. 

[Depression]

2 hours ago, Sozza said:

Why trksthtmn's post was censored? He made a great point and told the truth. 

 

They don’t like the truth I guess.

Edited October 27 by Depression
fuck you

[jack]

It’s already been mentioned by Cashew.

 

The post will be addressed, keep an eye out.

[Depression]

19 minutes ago, jack said:

It’s already been mentioned by Cashew.

 

The post will be addressed, keep an eye out.

Can't wait for more excuses. Answer me this first though, why was his post removed?

[jack]

6 minutes ago, Depression said:

Can't wait for more excuses. Answer me this first though, why was his post removed?

To stop speculation and misinformed statements being spread throughout the community. 
 

The post will be made available once it’s been addressed. Last thing we all need is it being spread around and people taking it gospel on their first read through.

 

After it’s been addressed and if people have already formed opinions or made their own truth that’s fine.

 

LS-RP is a different place as it was a few years back and you’ll see that later. We address things head on and continue progressing the community forward.

[Depression]

🤣🤣🤣

[Lannetta]

The way this thread is going so far proves the community has matured and come a long way from previous iterations. People are not afraid of speaking up and standing up for what they believe. My opinion means fuck all but I’m glad to be part of this community and sincerely hope this turns into a productive discussion between staff and players and hopefully we find a way forward. This still has a chance to succeed.

[badhbh]

I'm going to reiterate, we're addressing the post from trsk extremely soon if it hasn't been already posted. 

The post being shared while it does have some valid concerns, contains a lot of misinformation which has lead to a lot of discourse and rallying behind points with no real backing to them, which I've explained to trskthtmn. Please let us set the record straight before falling victim to information which is simply incorrect. 

 

[Mmartin]

43 minutes ago, Hye Powered Rifle said:

the forbidden post:

 

 

I'd like to clear a few things up regarding this; part of this response was written by badhbh on behalf of the IFTC and Jack on behalf of the staff team.

Re. Factions concerns:

 

As Illegal Faction Council, we feel it's important to address a number of the statements made by trksthtmn in his post in the interest of clarity and transparency.

 

Regarding the comments made about trksthtmn's concerns regarding current official factions; IFC as a whole are disappointed that trksthtmn would present the information he has gathered or believes he has gathered during his time as IFT in the manner he has. The Illegal Faction Council is aware of certain official factions not particularly upholding the standards we would expect from an official faction. We are currently steps to mitigate this, not only is there a full review being carried out by Illegal Faction Council but we're also going to be taking steps within the next month to issue warnings against all of the current Official factions regarding quality and activity and if no change or improvement is seen, these factions will be descripted by the end of November. Trksthtmn is part of the Illegal Faction Team and as such, has never been privy to the conversations or efforts going into reviewing these factions behind the scenes/within the Illegal Faction Council itself. Perhaps we're not working as quickly as he would personally like, however we each work full-time jobs, we're people just like the rest of you with lives outside of this community. The issues with these factions are often quite complex. If we were to go in and descript each official faction based on the personal opinion of one IFT member, where's the community in that?

 

Since the relaunch of the server we've been incredibly careful with our decisions, let's not forget that we have already descripted official factions since relaunch due to quality concerns - but IFC believe we must provide these players with the opportunity to improve their standards/activity etc. This was presented in a negative light, however while you personally may believe a faction is undeserving of their official spot, these players have put months and months of work and development into their faction. It'd be a shame to disregard their efforts without giving them a chance to prove to IFC and the community that they are worthy of their spot on the server. 

 

There are more updates, and actions to be taken regarding these official factions who we feel are not contributing to the server in the way they should, as a community you will see these actions being carried out but we have never, and will never be announcing the reviews or behind the scenes activities of IFC. Toxicity is rampant, and as IFC we feel a certain level of decorum is needed from us to prevent things from getting out of hand.

 

As many of you have read, there were a number of comments made about Spectre and his position within IFC. Shockingly, IFC are each allowed to hold their own personal opinions and voice them during discussions held on the Illegal Faction Team discord, forum boards and in PM's. Illegal Faction Council is made up of three people, who work closely with management to maintain the illegal faction scene. We have differences of opinions, and we're entitled to those. One of the points raised was that Spectre had stated none of the candidates were currently suitable for official. This opinion is not shared by IFC as a whole, and will not prevent us from reviewing the candidates as has been planned for weeks, once the current efforts to improve current faction standards and activity have been completed. Again, it's unfortunate that trksthtmn has not been included in these conversations as perhaps he wouldn't have presented the information as factual rather than the personal opinion of one community member. 

 

"Cashew was working on a script update for companies not long ago, which would have enhanced the company script and also added a company chat (similar to faction chat)." The way this information has been provided suggests we've disputed a number of features or large update to the company script as Illegal Faction Council. The update was one feature, company chat similar to /f. IFC as a whole were concerned that companies having immediate access to an OOC chat would result in demotivation for factions to strive for official as many of them run companies. I don't know how many of you have ever been in a faction that has been granted official, but the excitement of gaining your scripted faction and setting up /f has always been unique to official factions. It improves OOC interactions between your faction members, and while some may feel it's insignificant, it's a big part of the rewards an official faction receives. We did push against it, which resulted in those involved from the development side stating that they simply won't implement the update at all - despite us requesting that the company chat feature be used as a reward for longevity and high quality roleplay, just as /f is to the illegal faction scene. This was not our decision, nor our request. This was a decision taken by the developers/company team themselves to no longer implement it. 

 

"Spectre also argued against creating a council amongst the already established property & commerce team, which would have overseen the handling and distribution of businesses, houses, complexes and auctions." There's not alot that can be said about this, because it's simply untrue. There's been an established council for the Commerce & Estate team, which is overseen by Assistant Head of Operations/Head of Operations since the server relaunched - at a time that Spectre wasn't even part of Illegal Faction Council. The existence of this council has never been disputed by IFC. 

 

"I was informed that a member of Galleani (Spectre's faction), who holds significant responsibility as an upper-echelon (captain) was attempting to sell guns for OOC money via Discord to other players. ...my gut feeling was proven to be correct when no action was taken and instead Tadija was informed and went straight to dissing the person who told me." Illegal Faction Council take claims of OOC asset sales extremely seriously. Some of you will be aware of this, as some of you recently have been approached regarding the same topic. The issue was originally brought to Badhbh, who immediately reviewed the logs of the member in question. Not only did they not have any weapons on their character, they had logged in for less than 10 minutes throughout October. This was immediately informed to trksthtmn that no rules had been broken, but to bring it to Spectres attention so he can manage his faction as faction leadership. Spectre approached the member as both server admin, and faction leader to get to the bottom of these claims. As this member had only spoken to a select few in this way, it was quite easy for him to determine who reported their conversation. The accused member has made matters slightly more dramatic by claiming he has been banned for OOC sales, again untrue. As both admins, and IFC, we're unsure of what actions were expected to be taken against someone who has not broken server rules. Perhaps they were caught before getting the chance, but this doesn't change the fact that nothing punishable has been done. 

 

IFC are not going to speak on the current condition of Galleani (Spectre's faction) which was a large portion of trksthtmn's post. However, as stated in the beginning they along with all official factions will be subject to an activity and quality review throughout the month of November. Illegal Faction Council are by no means held to standards seperate to the rest of the official factions. 

We hope that this has addressed the concerns laid out in trksthtmn's post appropriately, and as always we're here to discuss concerns and queries. The best way to reach us is through our ticket system on the Illegal Faction Discord, or via. forum PM. 

 

Re. Staff points:

 

 

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There are plenty of issues within the staff team, however the main one revolves around the activity of a good portion of them and the reluctancy to do anything more than the bare minimum, or in some cases even less. However, due to the state of the playerbase at the minute, there is a general reluctancy to relieve staff who have been long-standing members of the team due to the potential backlash that could be faced as a result. This is a specific example of an excuse that I received when I confronted the issue at hand.

 

We have a well-established system for monitoring staff activity, which is evaluated based on various metrics each month. All staff members have the same baseline responsibilities that everyone must fulfil monthly. Additionally, staff members who hold specialized roles, such as those in the Illegal Faction Council, Commerce & Real Estate, and other teams within the community, have their own set of responsibilities associated with these secondary positions.

Leadership understands that not everyone can consistently meet every quota each month. We allow flexibility for those who demonstrate ongoing effort, even if they occasionally fall short of certain quotas. However, staff members who show no commitment or improvement will be relieved of their positions. without question.

 

The RageMP server has always been an important strategic part of the community's future, and we’ve never shied away from it. We recognize that, in its current state, the server has "flopped" and isn’t receiving the traction we’d hoped for. We are actively working to "re-think" the RageMP server. We’ve been addressing all the pain points identified since our initial launch on June 16, 2023. It will take some time to resolve these issues, but before long, everyone will see the progress we’ve been making. I would refer you back to a blog post we made regarding the future of LS-RP, this still stands strong to this day: 

 

It's paradoxical in a way, as the RageMP server has received far far less attention than we'd like to, as it's been pretty much all hands on deck for SA-MP this year.

 

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Since the disdain that followed from a survey being sent out to official factions regarding asset and official status transfers from SAMP > RAGE, the general response to whether or not the end goal is to retain members on V is varied, but more or less is deterred away. However, given the fact that the team wants to split the Illegal Faction Team into two, to have dedicated members of the sub-team focused on the illegal scene on V/RAGE, as well as the fact that there is a massive gap and lack of marketing for the SAMP server despite easy workarounds, it's easy to see what the end goal is. This is probably down to pride more than anything, given that the server flopped hard after empty promises were made for months and years.

 

This late point circles around. The main points of it have been addressed above. There is a lot of moving parts going on and nothing is final when it comes to RageMP, everything said in the above quote regarding splitting the teams in two is merely a suggestion on how we can move forward and ensure both sides of the community (SA-MP and RageMP) have all the resources they need to flourish. The point on marketing I will ask you go back up and read the points we've already made on that front.

 

Misc points:

The reason we aren't doing frequent email blasts has nothing to do with "budgeting" but rather marketing consent which is legally required for us to have to send our marketing emails. This is a legal requirement in the EU. Raymond was told this and this has been mentioned in the staff chat multiple times too. In-fact, everyone involved in marketing, whether current SA-MP (ROZE), past (Sal, others) or future (Helius, Conor, ...) have been told we can allocate a significant amount of LS-RP's revenue towards marketing, because we recognize its importance. We're currently also running ads, for example on Meta platforms.

 

We've since decided to implement a marketing prompt on the UCP, this is something that's work in progress, but it won't let us acquire consent from players who aren't logging ingame/onto the UCP, so in the end it won't resolve the issue of cold-contact.

 

As you can probably tell, the reason why the initial post was removed is because it contained several at best misleading, and at worst outright knowingly incorrect statements. It's a shame because we continue to work towards a healthier relationship between leadership and the community (and staff), and whenever this was brought up with staff members who were members of the staff many years ago, they all share the sentiment that the openness and approachability of leads is much better than it used to be.

 

I'd like to encourage everyone to make informed opinions and take posts by disgruntled ex-staff members who've been removed for misconduct (after being given a 2nd chance) with a grain of salt.

[trksthtmn]

I'll respond back to this later.

 

I wouldn't throw shade about how people should take my word with a grain of salt and ram down that I was removed for misconduct though, especially given that the motive for releasing information has nothing to do with a removal. My first removal was overturned and was done against Michael's wishes (as well as some leads) and the second was down to allegedly being insulting, coincidentally the same day that I said danut must be delusional for thinking LSRPV had a chance and was not already dead. 

 

I'll bounce back in to address points made here and provide a little more insight which was previously left out. It'll be in the evening.