A VISION FOR THE FUTURE

[Martin_Busato]

Why is this goof allowed to troll and derail my topic? Ban him already so he can move on with his life and we can get back to a constructive discussion.

 

Those posting here have provided a wealth of feedback and suggestions for management/staff to utilize. Someone should be monitoring this to ensure it stays on topic and blatant trolls are dealt with accordingly. 

 

The purpose of this topic is for the community to come together to find solutions to improve LSRP. The hyperbolic "LSRP is dead" comments aren't helping the cause. If you think it's dead, what are you still doing here?

 

I have been quite busy lately but I will chime in on the discussion again when I have time.

 

 

[n0de101]

Warnings have been issued, yet again, with needless back and forth arguments removed. Please just report comments and we’ll deal with it.

[Sfaccimma]

5 hours ago, n0de101 said:

Warnings have been issued, yet again, with needless back and forth arguments removed. Please just report comments and we’ll deal with it.

No offense, I know you are doing what is in your power and have to follow specific guidelines. But, addressing to the whole staff team here, I want to ask: is a warning appropriate to tackle people who clearly are not here to contribuite to the community and are only going to troll, DM, provoke etc etc?

A guy like that should AT LEAST serve a temporary ban from the forums, yet he gets a warning as if he gives two cents about it.

 

This is also seen IG where some serious rulebreakings are punished with a 25 mins Ajail that they are going to sit out by simply AFKing without getting kicked. Different if the ajail was for 360 minutes, and they shouldn't even get the pity of "oh 180-360 minutes is an overkill" well for start it's better than a ban and anyway they should've thought about it before breaking the rules, something they clearly don't do now because they don't give a fuck.

Even I would go rob a fucking bank IRL if I knew I was only going to serve a week in prison lol.

 

Leniency is what keeps poor RPers, trolls and whatever else around. Are these people really going to contribute to make LSRP any better or are they going to bring it down? Because so far they haven't contributed to nothing but turning some areas of the server into a comedy hub, I'd go as far to say that the current standards on the server are some of the lowest I have ever seen around, resulting in ugly and poor RP being presented frequently (exception made for a few factions out there). Even RCRP at this point had higher RP standards, that speaks volume.

 

Stop being afraid of losing players for enforcing the appropriate punishments, because you'll retain poor RPers at the expenses of the good RPers who will leave for not wanting to be bothered by the bullshit they got to endure day in and day out. For example, last night I was stood outside my faction's business having a smoke with Bruce Laterza when all of a sudden Melania Lopez pulls up, rolls down the window and for no reason whatsoever, unprovoked, yells "You Johnny slick back goofy motherfuckers, I'll kill ya." Is this deemed acceptable? She then proceeded to shoot it out with the cops down the road from the Brickhouse. Is this, again, acceptable for a heavy standard RP server? And is it acceptable to just dish a 25 minutes ajail to those who display such a poor RP followed by most of the time a poor reason to kill? You're not really punishing them and are not really enforcing any good behaviour that way.

 

What have you got to lose at this point anyway? You've already lost plenty, perhaps enforcing appropriate punishments will remove the Trolls/DMers (not entirely but the good majority) and will see an increase of the standards...perhaps you'll see some old faces returning when this happens. Faster response times from FTC? I think that also plays a (if not THE) pivotal role in all this. Anyway, punishments need to be more severe, that's one thing that has to change, 25 minutes ajail or forum warnings do not do justice at all.

 

I'll be waiting for that moron to come back and keep on trolling. When he does? It'll be the moment I will stop following this thread, because in that case clearly not a single fuck is being given about everything we are saying here and it's a real shame if that's how it is.

 

Someone clearly not here to help and contribute to the community, while derailing a thread and insulting people gets a warning instead of a ban. It's ridiculous and LSRP's staff/management has set the bar for it unfortunately.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Sfaccimma
Fixed Typos

[tracksuithitman]

At the minute, IFT/FTC is in dire need of change. I am hearing no positive feedback about the going ons at the minute and have been told that leads are having to step in as a result. This is also a complaint that Flip had prior to resigning as both admin and FTC.

 

Considering the illegal factions are what keeps roleplay alive and draws the majority of the playerbase in, it is astounding that standards have been allowed to slip so far. For reference, just a month ago I had been told by badhbh that Spectre "did fuck all anyway". So now we're down to two, one of which supposedly does nothing.

 

An IFT meeting took place where official factions were discussed; Flip was tasked with reviewing current officials, which would have likely seen FBMC being descripted due to lack of activity and standards. Barons MC was meant to be given official following the entire team being in agreement, which would have filled the slot formerly held by Nakahara-Kai. Black Mafia Family was also meant to take an open slot, then followed by Obshyak. Why have these factions still not been rewarded almost a month later when the playerbase is already in decline and suffering from demotivation?

 

These are questions that should be being asked. Props to Dos Santos and Izumi for offering to take a stand and push for said changes, but I will hold out giving any real credit until these promises comes to fruition.

Edited November 24, 2024 by tracksuithitman

[Peter_Genusa]

10 hours ago, tracksuithitman said:

At the minute, IFT/FTC is in dire need of change. I am hearing no positive feedback about the going ons at the minute and have been told that leads are having to step in as a result. This is also a complaint that Flip had prior to resigning as both admin and FTC.

 

Considering the illegal factions are what keeps roleplay alive and draws the majority of the playerbase in, it is astounding that standards have been allowed to slip so far. For reference, just a month ago I had been told by badhbh that Spectre "did fuck all anyway". So now we're down to two, one of which supposedly does nothing.

 

An IFT meeting took place where official factions were discussed; Flip was tasked with reviewing current officials, which would have likely seen FBMC being descripted due to lack of activity and standards. Barons MC was meant to be given official following the entire team being in agreement, which would have filled the slot formerly held by Nakahara-Kai. Black Mafia Family was also meant to take an open slot, then followed by Obshyak. Why have these factions still not been rewarded almost a month later when the playerbase is already in decline and suffering from demotivation?

 

These are questions that should be being asked. Props to Dos Santos and Izumi for offering to take a stand and push for said changes, but I will hold out giving any real credit until these promises comes to fruition.

They have to care as much as we do or else there’s no use in any of it

 

As the saying goes, it starts from the top

[mckenna]

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[tradition keeper]

On 11/24/2024 at 11:18 PM, Peter_Genusa said:

They have to care as much as we do or else there’s no use in any of it

 

As the saying goes, it starts from the top

 

[KaiKola]

Theres a problem with accessibility of the game for new players. Unless they find their tribe right away, a lot of them  aren't gonna grind for hours to get a pistol (if you're lucky and don't get scammed) and some shitty car. If you're like me in a North American timezone,  there's maybe 13 players online and nothing to do besides the  ol'  grind.

 

So at the end of the day the emphasis on factions on this server is a bit of a double edged sword. We see a lot of attention to detail and character development within faction roleplay, but outside of that the gameplay is pretty stale . And the future of faction roleplay relies on new players. People who often hover around for a while before finding their faction. For that reason  I really like the buddy system you mentioned.  

 

Personally though I would loosen up the gun market. They don't have to be cheaper, just more accessible. I hate to say it but it's my biggest gripe with the server these days. I know DM is a concern but at the end of the day this is GTA SA and most new players don't wanna spend weeks joining a faction to get their hands on a pistol. 

New and faction less players shouldn't have to get a PF license for guns. They don't need an M4 or anything but even a shotgun with 4 rounds would be nice. 

[manslaughter]

On 11/23/2024 at 4:40 AM, Sfaccimma said:

No offense, I know you are doing what is in your power and have to follow specific guidelines. But, addressing to the whole staff team here, I want to ask: is a warning appropriate to tackle people who clearly are not here to contribuite to the community and are only going to troll, DM, provoke etc etc?

A guy like that should AT LEAST serve a temporary ban from the forums, yet he gets a warning as if he gives two cents about it.

 

This is also seen IG where some serious rulebreakings are punished with a 25 mins Ajail that they are going to sit out by simply AFKing without getting kicked. Different if the ajail was for 360 minutes, and they shouldn't even get the pity of "oh 180-360 minutes is an overkill" well for start it's better than a ban and anyway they should've thought about it before breaking the rules, something they clearly don't do now because they don't give a fuck.

Even I would go rob a fucking bank IRL if I knew I was only going to serve a week in prison lol.

 

Leniency is what keeps poor RPers, trolls and whatever else around. Are these people really going to contribute to make LSRP any better or are they going to bring it down? Because so far they haven't contributed to nothing but turning some areas of the server into a comedy hub, I'd go as far to say that the current standards on the server are some of the lowest I have ever seen around, resulting in ugly and poor RP being presented frequently (exception made for a few factions out there). Even RCRP at this point had higher RP standards, that speaks volume.

 

Stop being afraid of losing players for enforcing the appropriate punishments, because you'll retain poor RPers at the expenses of the good RPers who will leave for not wanting to be bothered by the bullshit they got to endure day in and day out. For example, last night I was stood outside my faction's business having a smoke with Bruce Laterza when all of a sudden Melania Lopez pulls up, rolls down the window and for no reason whatsoever, unprovoked, yells "You Johnny slick back goofy motherfuckers, I'll kill ya." Is this deemed acceptable? She then proceeded to shoot it out with the cops down the road from the Brickhouse. Is this, again, acceptable for a heavy standard RP server? And is it acceptable to just dish a 25 minutes ajail to those who display such a poor RP followed by most of the time a poor reason to kill? You're not really punishing them and are not really enforcing any good behaviour that way.

 

What have you got to lose at this point anyway? You've already lost plenty, perhaps enforcing appropriate punishments will remove the Trolls/DMers (not entirely but the good majority) and will see an increase of the standards...perhaps you'll see some old faces returning when this happens. Faster response times from FTC? I think that also plays a (if not THE) pivotal role in all this. Anyway, punishments need to be more severe, that's one thing that has to change, 25 minutes ajail or forum warnings do not do justice at all.

 

I'll be waiting for that moron to come back and keep on trolling. When he does? It'll be the moment I will stop following this thread, because in that case clearly not a single fuck is being given about everything we are saying here and it's a real shame if that's how it is.

 

Someone clearly not here to help and contribute to the community, while derailing a thread and insulting people gets a warning instead of a ban. It's ridiculous and LSRP's staff/management has set the bar for it unfortunately.

 

this obviously flew past everyones head here. Well said tho, my dad used to say dont be afraid of losing bad apples if youll have a successful bushel

[Brigone]

I don't play anymore, but I figured I'd provide my opinion as a veteran and ex-staff member of Los Santos Roleplay.

The main problem with Los Santos Roleplay has always been one thing: staff and the lack of proper choices for the aforementioned. The staff in Los Santos Roleplay have (with some exceptions) always been people who do not quite understand roleplay on an intricate level and thereby fail to adhere to the high-quality standards that factions like Valenti (and others) have provided the server throughout the years.
 

There is also a huge issue that I've personally seen during my time as a staff member in Los Santos Roleplay, both recently and previously, with favoritism. Ask any of your friends who have left Los Santos Roleplay to give you two reasons why they've left. If improper management isn't the number one reason, it will undoubtedly be number two.
 

I think that in order for Los Santos Roleplay to survive (not prosper—that ship has sailed), staff, and more importantly management, need to become a lot more transparent about everything. But the idea that this server will grow into anything more than what it currently is should be forgotten. Those who believe that need to start thinking logically and not emotionally.
 

During my last run, three weeks after I left, I warned every single staff chat that I had access to and tried tagging as many management members as I could. I basically said—and I remember vividly screaming this in the microphone as well in our Illegal Faction Management meeting, where some management members were present: "Start taking care of people. You no longer have the luxury of treating people like dogs. Those people that leave are not getting replaced."
 

I also remember creating an Excel sheet and presenting it to staff as well, showing the percentage of player loss based on announcements released, promotions within the administration team, and other decisions that were being taken without any form of consultation with the community—like the alien event which caused the biggest drop in player-base and widespread demotivation. 
 

In essence, Los Santos Roleplay is done. The glory days are over. You can either squeeze it for whatever it has left (and I think you absolutely should) and management does its best to retain its current player base, or call it quits and move on.

 

'Con rispetto.

[Vurtex_]

Wow Wayne. Haven't changed one bit bubs.

[Marco Polo]

On 11/30/2024 at 11:12 PM, Brigone said:

 The staff in Los Santos Roleplay have (with some exceptions) always been people who do not quite understand roleplay on an intricate level

It's insane how well this is worded. Trying to come to reason in an in-game report about anything that isn't a clear as day, hyper-specific rule break is basically impossible at the moment and it feels like you're speaking to a wall. More of the current testers need to be bumped up ASAP, the team has plenty of names that actually know what they're doing.

[Salazaros]

The fact that a thread has over 16.4k views, yet less than 1% of that number is active during peak hours, and the thread isn’t even pinned, speaks volumes about the issues within the community. Clearly, these concerns need to be addressed rather than suppressed.

As @Peter_Genusa said, it starts at the top. People need to stop being narrow-minded and take responsibility for creating real solutions. Everything needs to be addressed openly, not ignored or swept under the rug.

It’s not just 2-3 people raising real concerns it’s a whole 2-5 pages. Doesn’t that say something, management?

Edited December 7, 2024 by Salazaros

[Snafu]

On 11/26/2024 at 12:55 AM, mckenna said:

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[Salazaros]

You asked Raymond/ @tracksuithitman for proof about staff and claimed he never sent you anything. Well, I’ll post some proof here publicly for you, with courtesy.

https://streamable.com/1se5gd

https://streamable.com/45i5of

https://streamable.com/fq32ry - Can't see his name here but you got the other videos.

Also if y'all remove this comment then you prove the point that the community got censorship issues along with the rest of the issues it has.

@Mmartin @Michael

Edited December 7, 2024 by Salazaros