Hospital Roleplay and You

[Ryan]

As you may remember, on the SA-MP Server, there was an opportunity to roleplay with hospital staff at All Saints, County General, and some other locations as time went on. I'm happy to say that this type of roleplay will be carried over to the GTA V server. Here is what we have determined so far:

• On an in-character basis, we will have a private, independently-run hospital. We're still finalizing which location we will be using in-game.
• On an out-of-character basis, we will be in the same faction as the LSFD. This set up is to give us access to a stable forum and in-game faction. We are, however, an independent sub-faction within the LSFD and independent of their rank structure.
  • On that note, we're following a somewhat similar format to the LSFD before 2016 which had a two-sector system: (1) EMT/Firefighter and (2) Hospital. However, during that time, the faction allowed for the unrealistic practice of characters who were both firefighters and doctors. That will no longer be the case; instead of two sectors within the LSFD, it is now going to be two factions: the LSFD main faction and the hospital sub-faction, with separate rank structures, leadership, and roleplay locations.
• We will allow only physician characters to join. Our rank structure essentially follows a realistic medical path: Intern, Resident, (possible, but not necessary promotion:) Chief Resident, (possible, but not necessary promotion:) Fellow, Attending Physician, Deputy Chief of Medicine, and Chief of Medicine.
  • While a Deputy Chief of Medicine rank generally does not exist in real life, we want to be able to assemble a small team for the hospital faction's leadership and maintain the separate supervisory rank of Attending Physician.
  • While the Chief of Medicine is the leader of the hospital faction, only on an OOC basis, the Chief of Medicine answers to the Fire Chief. For in-character purposes, the Chief of Medicine answers to a (non-existent) Board of Directors - basically, a RP name for being answerable to someone above the Chief of Medicine.
  • I will be the Chief of Medicine. I was involved in hospital roleplay off and on between 2014 and 2018 and was in charge of the LSFD's hospital sector and sub-sector for good chunks of time.
• We have no plans to have ordinary "hospitalist" doctors or nurses at this point. Those will be NPCs for roleplay purposes.
• We aim to strike a balance between realism and ease of access for players. We are not trained medical professionals in real life. We have a series of guides that were used before (and have now been updated) that I believe puts a fair balance between realism and ease of access for the player base. There is only a small learning curve for those who want to join the faction, but you can join with literally zero knowledge of anatomy and still do just fine as a member of the faction. We have relatively simple guides and a wealth of information for our faction members.
• The hospital sector was most successful on SA-MP when there were events that brought people into the hospital. This included the disaster events, LSFD-hosted blood drives, fundraisers, or advertisements for general checkups. Excluding disaster events (we obviously have no say on that), we do plan on eventually hosting similar events to draw interest to the faction.

 

We want to create a faction that is fun for faction members and for general players. In some cases, most of the work that we would do on SA-MP was treating gunshot wounds or handling people begging for medication because they were affected by the script's addiction system. How exactly that trend will change is up to you, the player base: what is it that you want to see from the hospital faction?

 

If you were previously involved in hospital roleplay on the SA-MP server and are interested in participating, do reach out to me as well!

 

We also have information on the sort of recruitment we will be doing on the LSFD forums if you are interested in reading more.

[Sal]

Hello!

 

I like the direction you're taking this in tbf, it's reminiscent of how it was a couple of years ago as you say. Also fully, one hundred percent agree that there has to be a balance between making things fun and realistic - I don't think anyone should expect actual trained medical professionals, but I know the old guides were thorough enough to provide a realistic enough experience for everyone.

 

I think, as with most things, it's best just to see how things go and be flexible too. Agree as well on having events, and encouraging "regular checkups" perhaps like a GP surgery should provide enough RP. Perhaps even a guide on common ailments, showing people that they can easily roleplay having "something" then coming along, getting diagnosed and receiving treatment of some kind? Just thinking out loud here.

 

Regardless, best of luck with everything, looking forward to seeing y'all in game

[Venta]

Really enjoyed hospital roleplay back then, looking forward to joint projects as we tried doing before! 

Hopefully we'll have some sort of DOH within' the government to support you.

 

[Mikee]

I really enjoy your ideas, it will be cool.
Plus, with RageMP we can do a lot of things. Actually it would be nice if the hospital could draw up and send medical reports directly In-Game. A doctor conducts a visit ( after an accident, after a period of rehabilitation, to access to a faction recruitments etc.. ), and suddenly releases a medical report which affirms the conditions of the subject, or perhaps the injuries sustained. This would bring a lot of activity more and a lot of cool scenarios.

[Venta]

10 minutes ago, Mikee said:

I really enjoy your ideas, it will be cool.
Plus, with RageMP we can do a lot of things. Actually it would be nice if the hospital could draw up and send medical reports directly In-Game. A doctor conducts a visit ( after an accident, after a period of rehabilitation, to access to a faction recruitments etc.. ), and suddenly releases a medical report which affirms the conditions of the subject, or perhaps the injuries sustained. This would bring a lot of activity more and a lot of cool scenarios.

 

So like a medical history? The only issue I'd see with that is that people doing certain things will have those histories flooded - like a cop, they tend to get shot every time they get online.

[Mikee]

1 minute ago, Venta said:

 

So like a medical history? The only issue I'd see with that is that people doing certain things will have those histories flooded - like a cop, they tend to get shot every time they get online.

Yeah, something like a medical history. Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, actually it would update just when you go to the hospital due to several injuries. But not just a medical history, even medical reports that certify physical fitness to access the recruitments for example.

[Venta]

3 minutes ago, Mikee said:

Yeah, something like a medical history. Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, actually it would update just when you go to the hospital due to several injuries. But not just a medical history, even medical reports that certify physical fitness to access the recruitments for example.

 

We did medical employee check-ups several times back on SAMP, turned out to be fun roleplay for everyone.  Could come along with scripts as narcotics tests etc.

[Freedom Fighter]

Hospital rp would b cool

Edited February 1, 2022 by Freedom Fighter

[mhrhan]

Idea is cool. But, the problem is, people getting shot frequently (e.g cops and gang rpers) will eventually get bored of this roleplay. Wouldn't it cause minor (or major) issues from your side?

 

 

[Sal]

23 minutes ago, mhrhan said:

Idea is cool. But, the problem is, people getting shot frequently (e.g cops and gang rpers) will eventually get bored of this roleplay. Wouldn't it cause minor (or major) issues from your side?

 

 

I do remember this being a bit of an issue a couple of years ago; the fact that gun shot wounds were the main cause of hospital inpatients was probably a bit boring and repetitive for the FD staff as well. I think back then, the FD member would essentially PM the player to ask if they wanted a more in-depth or expedited RP experience - this wasn't just for GSWs, it was more of a courtesy because of RL time constraints like people needing to go eat and so on. A realistic process often took upwards of an hour, after all.

 

Would be keen to hear FD's thoughts on how this sort of thing would be handled for sure. 

[mhrhan]

1 hour ago, Allegra said:

I do remember this being a bit of an issue a couple of years ago; the fact that gun shot wounds were the main cause of hospital inpatients was probably a bit boring and repetitive for the FD staff as well. I think back then, the FD member would essentially PM the player to ask if they wanted a more in-depth or expedited RP experience - this wasn't just for GSWs, it was more of a courtesy because of RL time constraints like people needing to go eat and so on. A realistic process often took upwards of an hour, after all.

 

Would be keen to hear FD's thoughts on how this sort of thing would be handled for sure. 

TBH, taking a 5 minute ER-only in and out roleplay would be more convenient for everyone involved, since RPing fear is sometimes not enough for you to avoid getting holed up. 

[LordSpyx]

3 hours ago, Allegra said:

I do remember this being a bit of an issue a couple of years ago; the fact that gun shot wounds were the main cause of hospital inpatients was probably a bit boring and repetitive for the FD staff as well. I think back then, the FD member would essentially PM the player to ask if they wanted a more in-depth or expedited RP experience - this wasn't just for GSWs, it was more of a courtesy because of RL time constraints like people needing to go eat and so on. A realistic process often took upwards of an hour, after all.

 

Would be keen to hear FD's thoughts on how this sort of thing would be handled for sure. 

 

 

Hello there!

Back on SAMP in the last couple years we didn't have hospital staff, so everything had been NPC'd at the hospital with a few lines explaining what would happen at the hospital itself. (As long as everyone involved agreed to it of course).

 

Having a functioning hospital faction was a direct request from Server Management so that the LSFD can focus on pre-hospital care. Meaning once they've dropped the patient off at the hospital and give information to the staff there, they can return to their ambulance and carry on with the rest of their shift. That is when hospital staff will take over. So as long as there are members of the hospital faction on duty, there will be no need for NPC'd roleplay. You will ideally have roleplay from the time Firefighter-EMTs / Firefighter-Paramedics arrive on scene, all the way through your hospital visit.

 

On SAMP we ran into the issue of people calling 911 from the hospital requesting FD to help them with injuries, which was not realistic at all. You're at a hospital, so you'd be in better hands there with people who have the proper equipment to do a full evaluation and give you surgery or stitches if needed. Having a hospital faction should combat that as more players get used to having hospital staff again.

 

Firefighters can focus on fighting fires and responding to accidents or other scenes requiring pre-hospital medical attention to stabilize patients, and then the hospital staff can give them the thorough checkup and treatment after the fact.

 

As far as repetitive or "boring" roleplay, I can say after nearly three years in the faction, I handled hundreds of GSW scenes. I never found it to be repetitive or boring, as no two people ever roleplay the same way. Each character is unique, they handle pain differently, and wounds are in separate locations. While on an out-of-character level people might feel it's monotonous to treat GSWs over and over again, it's not unrealistic to think that's what EMTs and hospitals deal with a lot in areas where violence is heavily prevalent in real life scenarios.

 

The reason we asked if people wanted to roleplay inside hospitals or skip after FD treated them, was due to server rules regarding NPC'd roleplay. All parties involved have to agree to it. It's not realistic for a Firefighter to go inside and treat the patient themself, and when you had bustling shifts it was a time issue on FD's side to have to explain a few hospital-oriented lines of roleplay. It was never personally my favorite thing to do, as it took time away from faction responsibilities.

 

With the hospital sub-faction joining us, I feel there will be a better balance across the board, and less NPC'd roleplay all around. This will break immersion less, and allow us to delegate our units where they're needed most!

 

It should also be noted that you can only join one side or the other. You cannot be in both the LSFD main-faction and hospital sub-faction at the same time, not even on separate characters. This is considered the same as not allowing anyone to join two LEO factions at one time. As Ryan said, each entity is owned and operated independently of one another on an in-character level. The hospital sub-faction has their own section on the LSFD forums, with their own recruitment information.

[Sheffield]

It would help if roleplayers roleplay their falls, shots, car crashes that are roleplayed etc. so the hospital roleplay can continue! Not just a simple visit. I like your concept!

[Sal]

4 hours ago, LordSpyx said:

 

 

Hello there!

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I meant to respond properly to this earlier - thanks for taking the time to explain. I think that sounds really good. I suppose you'll have to see how it goes upon launch but it seems like a lot of this has already been thought out quite thoroughly!

[LordSpyx]

10 minutes ago, Allegra said:

 

I meant to respond properly to this earlier - thanks for taking the time to explain. I think that sounds really good. I suppose you'll have to see how it goes upon launch but it seems like a lot of this has already been thought out quite thoroughly!

 

You are quite welcome! I'm always happy to take the time to answer faction related questions.