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Is there any estimate to how long such schemes may take to be approved? I'm not a massive fan on grinding out revenue through trucking, would rather roleplay. 

53 minutes ago, 9TriLLo said:

You are proposing these illegal schemes, but most of them require you to be in a faction. Why not make it character-specific instead of faction-specific? This is too limiting for people who want to roleplay creative schemes and try to make it either solo or into a faction through organic ways w/o depending on the faction itself.

 

I think the days where the schemes are tailored to benefit factions and factions only are long gone, or should be. Making them character-specific ensures a better flow of drugs and I believe that those character can be from inside a faction or outside them. It shouldn't matter.

 

 

I think this is a fair and important point, there are a huge portion of players not in a faction, I for one have never been in one, legal nor illegal, it would be good to discuss the possibilities of something like this in coming meetings potentially @Sal?

@9TriLLo There were also some mentions of income via player companies for now

Edited June 26, 2023 by ROZE

31 minutes ago, mechos51 said:

Is there any estimate to how long such schemes may take to be approved? I'm not a massive fan on grinding out revenue through trucking, would rather roleplay. 

Usuallu within a week considering the FT has to give input on it and etc

Scam people for their social security money by promising them early access to certain markets and businesses. 

1 hour ago, ROZE said:

I think this is a fair and important point, there are a huge portion of players not in a faction, I for one have never been in one, legal nor illegal, it would be good to discuss the possibilities of something like this in coming meetings potentially @Sal?

@9TriLLo There were also some mentions of income via player companies for now

 

"Company" is just a fancier word for legal sub-factions backed by a script that people both in a faction or outside a faction can benefit from, they don't really solve the issue here, but they certainly help a part of the community.

 

However, there is still a huge amount of characters that won't/can't run companies due to IC motives, nor become part of ones.

 

By offering these schemes the way you do, sure, you trickle down drugs, weaps, contraband and money into the server through channels who have a less disposition to go fully inactive, but at the same time you kinda spit on people's efforts that try to find creative, unique ways of doing things and can't fully take advantage of those schemes because of the lack of support from the server.

 

I'm also somewhat disappointing that you guys made this announcement without even having all schemes ready. The scenario scheme and the possibility for individuals to get approved for schemes, I understood, are things to come, so why not make them a priority, get them ready and then make this announcement?

 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by 9TriLLo

Interesting

looks good

right so schemes like any other server which face the same issue; they require you to submit an entire research paper, will probably end up taking months to be reviewed and are more often than not always closed anyway - just like they are now.

how innovative.

Guns in the US are easily accessible and so is the dark web, why restrict such a nice feature from the mass player base by limiting it to a select few? 

All that does is incite favoritism and draw players away.

The goal should be accessibility from inside the server, not giving admins more power and the privilege to determine who gets to have fun on the server and who doesn't.

If anything make the dark net feature accessible by anyone ( within a certain level ) but limit the guns you can get for balance.

 

Rifles no, but pistols with switches?

21 minutes ago, jmp said:

right so schemes like any other server which face the same issue; they require you to submit an entire research paper, will probably end up taking months to be reviewed and are more often than not always closed anyway - just like they are now.

how innovative.

Guns in the US are easily accessible and so is the dark web, why restrict such a nice feature from the mass player base by limiting it to a select few? 

All that does is incite favoritism and draw players away.

The goal should be accessibility from inside the server, not giving admins more power and the privilege to determine who gets to have fun on the server and who doesn't.

If anything make the dark net feature accessible by anyone ( within a certain level ) but limit the guns you can get for balance.

 

Rifles no, but pistols with switches?

guns on here are by far the most accessible I have EVER seen on a rp server. giving everyone the ability to get a gun is dumb. sure you can make the point "its easy irl" but how many people know about it irl? of those, how many are actually willing to risk doing it? of those, how many actually get those guns? on here, 90% of the playerbase would be using it to buy guns. a rp server needs balance and oversight.

yeah everybody in the US knows how to get a gun buddy. 

 

are u a weapon supplier by any chance? I guess if I were a weapon supplier I'd think it's dumb too, that way I can gatekeep the guns for myself and the people I know personally.

 

5 minutes ago, trouble.maker said:

sure you can make the point "its easy irl" but how many people know about it irl?

 

2 minutes ago, jmp said:

yeah everybody in the US knows how to get a gun buddy. 

i'm sure if u go out on the street and ask random people the steps to buying a gun on the dark web they'd be able to reproduce it step by step. great point bud.

3 minutes ago, jmp said:

are u a weapon supplier by any chance? I guess if I were a weapon supplier I'd think it's dumb too, that way I can gatekeep the guns for myself and the people I know personally.

LMFAO gatekept? im sorry bro but if u cant get ur hands on a gun on this rendition of lsrp the issue lies with you and no script will be able to fix that. good luck though.

interesting, looking forward to see it happenin! 

yeah just say you're a supplier and move on buddy, you're missing the entire point of the post.

Edited June 27, 2023 by jmp

ur not entitled to a gun pal go figure out why its so hard for u to get one first

lol.. the real head scratcher is why you're so slow. 

 

the purpose of that post isn't about being entitled or the difficulty of obtaining a gun.

 

They felt a need to post an entire thread explaining to people that schemes are a thing, okay cool.

 

but then they're locked behind applications and justifications and more applications.

 

Anything remotely interesting to do in these types of servers involves this. 

 

So when they advertise about "An open world with ANYTHING to do" the average player is going to be led to believe this and think "hey cool" until they're met with the sad reality of how much red tape there is.

 

if a couple paragraphs is too much for u to do in exchange for the ability to purchase firearms at will idk what to tell u. trusting everybody with buying firearms is some 2014 samp medium rp shit & its very confusing that you fail to see that. you either way too much faith in the ability and intelligence of most people or you're insanely lazy.

2 minutes ago, trouble.maker said:

 

 

lol tf are you intentionally being dense or something?

 

all I'm saying is they could get more creative by figuring out alternative solutions to make things accessible, while still keeping balance in the server and without admins being able to dictate who's accepted and who's not.

 

not to mention people having to wait for those same schemes to open and be available in the first place.

 

do something different from the server they're clearly in competition with. 

 

One of their biggest features is INACCESSIBLE to the majority of the players. 

Poker.

Nice

ayoo are we not chopping cars or what man

Edited June 27, 2023 by 21Kimo

father mmartin pls let us chop vehicles

As a compromise to the argument of the two beautiful gentlemen above; I propose that everyone gets a starter-pack of two pistols and ten (10) ounces of drugs to begin their roleplay upon spawning (should be set by script), regardless of what their character's goals and ambitions are. And, also, remove the staff team completely, so that we all have equal rights in the community. Every player should also have access to admin commands to make everything equal as well. 

20 hours ago, 9TriLLo said:

You are proposing these illegal schemes, but most of them require you to be in a faction. Why not make it character-specific instead of faction-specific? This is too limiting for people who want to roleplay creative schemes and try to make it either solo or into a faction through organic ways w/o depending on the faction itself.

 

I think the days where the schemes are tailored to benefit factions and factions only are long gone, or should be. Making them character-specific ensures a better flow of drugs and I believe that those character can be from inside a faction or outside them. It shouldn't matter.

 

 

Every individual able to buy drugs/illegal items will make economy demand low while making supply high resulting in breakdown. Just my opinion.

everything's locked behind applications lol

Looks good.