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I agree. Cypress Flats needs some projects and actual neighborhoods too, seeing as that area's supposed to be based off of Long Beach. Hopefully then people would stop trying to make LBC gangs in vespucci beach.

Exactly. East Los is very barren when it comes to roleplay since the area is mostly industrial. The area definitely needs a remap considering that East Los is supposed to act as a hub of Mexican culture.

I am the biological father of @Wavy @LowDowns First account on OG LSRP, named Miguel_Corel, RPed in the first MS13 with Chete @The Black Car takeover

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It's been a looooong time since I RP'd with the LSPD on LSRP! I like the idea of the station itself being manned at the front desk, y'know for people to actually call in and report crimes or ask for help etc. Back in t'day the actual PD itself seemed quiet at the front, with most RP going on in interrogation rooms or what-not. Maybe hiring civilian staff for the front desk? Not sure whether civvy positions are something you're considering or already doing. I also remember that, when RPing as a journalist, I was heavily reliant on the PD to be open and share comments etc rather than just "no comment, bugger off and leave us alone" sort of thing. On World they often held press conferences and seemed very open about what was going on - this felt realistic and gave the civ RPers something to go to and do. Otherwise I think that, given this is a fresh start for you all, just try things and see what happens. Looking forward to seeing how things go, best of luck!

Very good question, my fine friend! I'm not entirely sure yet haha. Could go either way. More than likely will attempt Law Enforcement, buuuut I'll always have love for Organized Crime RP - So that could be a thing in the future as well.

Very good, amigo!!

lmao, aight, enough for today hahaha

Data centre is like, EU or US. I'm EU and I play on Omega - the word "Hyperion" isn't familiar to me so I think you may be different! Shadowbringers is fucking excellent, great fun. Take your time with everything - all the stories are great even the sidequests. The music is also excellent in that EP. What do you main as? I'm DRK.

Leading them to miserable failure

That's fair enough yeah, there never really was much diversity in the music that was played. On World they had a place dedicated to metal music at some point, it was a bit cray but it was different and refreshing. Let's hope for a good mix!

As long as it's not going back to when licensing was rolling around masked up with guns playing vigilante, using gov vehicles.

We've been trying to minimize paperwork as much as possible lately, but we were quite limited in SAMP, however, since it's a new start for LSRP - it should work out as we intended now. Minimizing the amount of "paperwork" done on the forums and focusing on the factions presence in-game in way that others could see it.

Great discussion but rather than add a wall of text in here, I'll just say that I agree with all the points about there being a need for balance, and an appreciation that criminal, LEO and civilian roleplay all has its place in creating an environment that complements the roleplaying experience for all three. I think ROZE summed this up best in the earlier post. How to do it all in practise, though? Biiiig topic. Lots to be learned from World as everyone's mentioned; both in terms of what to pick up, and what to discard. If the vision remains that it should be a fair system that doesn't overly favour one roleplaying group over another, then the actions taken as part of this should be positive. Obviously it'll take some hiccups and learnings along the way too.

Welcome back dude. See you In-Game!

The myth, welcome back lad.

Welcome back homie!!

every time i see you dos, i ll ask: where tf is undertow? on a serious note: wag1?

There's a huge misconseption about what civilian roleplayers are. A lot of people seem to assume that a civilian roleplayer is just somebody who stands at the mall and does fuck all else, and if that's what you immediately think of when you think of civilian roleplay then I can confidently say that you have the completely wrong idea about it and should try to be more open about what civilian roleplay is. The bartenders and security guards in that club you went to, The taxi driver that picked you up, The guy doing taxes for businesses, That person you seen jogging along the beach, These are the people that make the world feel busy and alive. Do you really assume that every person you drive past is either a cop or a thug? When you actually roleplay in the civilian scene, you realise how many players are actually playing LSRP to, you guest it, roleplay something realistic. I've met so many amazing roleplayers who simply log on to socialise, go to work (an ic job like bartending, doing graphics, news reporting), go for a meal, then go home. I promise you that there are more people than you think roleplaying like this, and it's what fills up the world with normal, civilian people. When I was running Roze Enterprise we hired over 150 people across 2 years. Yes, one hundred and fifty people interested in civilian roleplay with one faction. We were one of the only civilian factions ever to provide full time jobs to anyone who was willing to put in the effort and trust me, a lot of people enjoyed roleplaying a full time job; bartending, doing security, trucking, whatever, with a team. The people that you see as mallrats are the same people that we turned away from the faction. You assume that they are civilian roleplayers, generally the people you are thinking of are just trollers. For a non-illegal faction, the amount of interest that we seen for civilian roleplay was overwhelming - Another civilian faction that did very well was Roux, which created a lot of jobs for the playerbase and created a lot of very high quality civilian roleplay. With good support for civilian roleplay it would be more common to see amazing civilian factions creating jobs and helping the economy, as well as filling in the empty space between illegal roleplayers and cops. If civilian roleplay was taken more seriously, you would see more IC businesses that are run realistically - Competing with other businesses, creating a job market etc, and not just a "front for my illegal faction". You would see in character news companies showing up to big events. You would see Los Santos University opening up and actually becoming stable. Civilian roleplay is the part that fills in all of the gaps to make the world feel alive, and not just a cops and robbers server. The two major issues that have been affecting the civilian scene are the economy, and the fact that a lot of people majorly misinterpret what civilian roleplay even is in the first place.