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This guide was written by me for LSRP on SAMP and shared with another one I recently played on throughout the summer time, and I figured it'll help those in need on here who need knowledge on the topic. Although I have expanded more on this for Irish Mob RP since the other guides out there aren't as accurate.


Guide To Irish Roleplay by Freedom Fighter


 

 

PART 1: IRISH CULTURE, SHORT BRIEF OF IRISH MOB RUN DOWN & GUIDANCE TO EVERYDAY CHARACTERISTICS 

1. INTRODUCTION: Roleplaying an Irish character can be hard to do for most, as some people tend to get some stuff wrong, or roleplay a stereotype. Not that this is a bad thing, but it's something that should definitely be avoided honestly.

I'm going to keep this guide somewhat short and to the point so people trying to roleplay an Irish character can get into it easier. The main things that must be taken into consideration though, are the things below:

 

Are you roleplaying Irish-Irish?

Are you roleplaying Irish-American?

Is your character a criminal or a legal working person?

Is your character very culturally driven?

The food and music.

These pointers are genuinely the most important things to keep in mind when roleplaying an Irish character, which I'll dive into right now.

 

2. ARE YOU ROLEPLAYING IRISH-IRISH?

This is probably the most misguided type of Irish roleplay that can be done, and sometimes can end up going very wrong.

The thing to keep in mind about homegrown Irish roleplay is that a lot of people, especially from rural areas of the country who move out foreign still tend to be very culturally driven by traditions.

Irish-Irish people normally move out foreign to other countries either due to employment, family or if they're involved in a criminal lifestyle it can also contribute to that factor.

 

3. ARE YOU ROLEPLAYING IRISH-AMERICAN?

This is a very important category of Irish roleplay, as most people choose to roleplay this and often enough tend to roleplay it as a criminal concept. This is fine, but where some people go off course is when they roleplay culture related to Ireland. Most

Irish-Americans are very culturally driven, so much that the term: "Irish Pride" is an Irish-American term that has even transitioned to Ireland itself where Irish citizens in Ireland use it.

It's quite common for Irish-Americans to be involved in fighting; legal/illegal, or racketeering when it comes to bookie placement and scamming, or when it comes to horse riding.

 

4. IS THE CHARACTER YOU'RE ROLEPLAYING A CRIMINAL OR LEGAL WORKING PERSON?

 

Very important part of the guide honestly, as this makes or breaks your character. If the character is a criminal, and they're Irish-American

for example, then they won't exactly be apart of a major criminal organization as an insider most likely. Irish "mobs" in the United States of America are more of a "crew" or "gang" (Not to be mistaken as a street gang) than a full-fledged mafia.

 

If your character is a legal working person, Native-Irish or Irish-American it'd probably correlate. Basically whatever job you find, you have.

 

5. IS YOUR CHARACTER CULTURALLY DRIVEN?

This is a very short part of the paragraph, but the question is rhetorical in a way. If you're Irish-Irish you will be culturally driven, since it's quite unheard of to find an Irishman or Irishwoman who isn't proud to be Irish. But as for Irish-Americans, they take pride in having

Irish blood in their veins very seriously. After all, they did make the term: "Irish Pride" a popular thing.

 

6. THE FOOD AND MUSIC:

This is also an important thing to keep in mind, but mainly only applies to Irish-American characters as an Irish-Irish character would essentially already know most of this. But if you're roleplaying an Irish-Irish character, and are lacking knowledge on Irish culture from the homeland then this will also be of benefit for you.

Irish-American families tend to have an Irish dinner at least once a week, whilst some families make it more than once a week. The music is also a very important thing, for example you got the Rumjacks and Dropkick Murphys which are two Irish-American bands from the United States of America, and you have Irish Descendents which are an Irish-Canadian band.

This should explain to you how important Irish people from other countries are when it comes to Irish related stuff, and heritage.

 

 

PART 2: THE IRISH MOB, ACCURACY OVER ACCUSATIONS

 

1. INTRODUCTION: Alright, so let me start off by saying this, most people roleplaying Irish Mobsters in since 2019 and upwards tend to roleplay copycat La Cosa Nostra concepts which is utterly atrocious for modern-day standards of Irish Mob RP. The term “Irish Mob” should also be taken very lightly, and not used in vein since it’s more of an entity than a statement. The new age of Irish “Mob” roleplay is actually Irish American Organized Crime Groups which operate by their own rules depending on each group. This is what makes Irish criminal roleplay unique in a U.S.A based setting, the fact there’s a lot of freedom in roleplaying an Irish American OCG.

 

2. MODERN DAY IRISH MOB ROLEPLAY: The thing many people get wrong with “Irish Mob” roleplay is many factors I’ll list below:

Understanding Irish Pride and how it is culturally driven into the minds of the youth, LOYALTY, HONOR and RESPECT are three important factors in the Irish criminal underworld. Unlike the traditional Italian Mob rp where it's really only money, as proven by greed many times ruining it. The “Irish Mob” is very prideful in their heritage and don't let money get in between their countrymen/countrywomen. Greed will obviously exist in all areas of the world, but the three things listed make it less likely to happen.

 

Do not, and I repeat… DO NOT ROLEPLAY RACIST, although sometimes you’ll stumble across one or two odd Johns that act like it in real life, Irish people naturally aren’t racist as a community, and in the Irish criminal underworld in the U.S.A all Irish gangsters and mobsters work with different races. They might’ve had a reputation as reckless cowboys in the 50s onto the early 2000s, but most of the time Irish-American OCGs are very business driven and crews like Dunnes in California, Spillanes in NY are rumored to use encrypted messaging apps etc.

 

Don’t always use bars, gyms etc as businesses to own. Branch out, own a nail salon, shoe store, hairdressers, horse breeding ranch company etc, the possibilities for “Irish Mob” roleplay in 2021 are endless. Unlike La Cosa Nostra which have only males being oath takers, Irish-American OCGs normally aren’t sexist and don’t refrain from allowing females to be insiders depending on the specific OCG at hand. And stop using LCN structure, please for the love of God, the Irish "mob" operates entirely different.

 

3. BUT IT’S NOT ON THE MEDIA?! That’s what makes the “Irish Mob” all that more weary and curious. A lot of my information comes from reliable sources and not everything is on the internet nowadays, in a day of modern day technology, a lot of criminal orgs have resorted to their own ways of staying off the grid. Oh yeah, I’ll also mention that roleplaying connections to the I.R.A is horrendous portrayal, the closest thing you’d have ties to is the Kinahan Cartel and that’s only if you’re roleplaying a crew involved in sports and money laundering which would help them launder their cash, you wouldn't be buying/selling drugs/guns. When speaking with people, you should also use encrypted messaging apps on a LAN connection, powered by an iPhone or PC etc.

 

5. IRISH-AMERICAN GANGSTERS/MOBSTERS:

Roleplaying an Irish-American gangster/mobster isn’t exactly too much of a big thing, as most Irish-American Organized Crime Groups are on small time / average levels of criminal organization and their activities vary depending on the group and that group’s connections. 

 

Although if you are roleplaying Irish-American, you can easily roleplaying yourself being affiliated to other ethnic criminal groups. You just might not become an insider, depending on what the group actually is realistically based off of. What is worth mentioning, is that many people need to realize that there’s also a lot of solo criminals that are Irish-American in the United States of America, and a lot of them can even be in street gangs etc like bloods, crips, FAIM etc, so roleplaying Irish-American doesn’t mean you’re gridlocked to being in a criminal organization on a Mafia like level.

 

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THIS GUIDE IS PURPOSELY MADE SHORT AND NOT VERY LONG SO READERS CAN TAKE IN MORE INFORMATION AT A MORE COMPACTED AND EASIER RATE THAN IT WOULD BE TO TAKE IN A BOOK OF INFORMATION. THIS GUIDE IS A GUIDE, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A STEP BY STEP FOR YOUR ROLEPLAY AS EACH CHARACTER VARIES IN STYLE.

 

Credits: Freedom Fighter

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On 10/4/2021 at 7:36 AM, Detergent said:

State of Grace, The Departed, Kill the Irishman, Black Mass - all good movies for inspiration 

Those aren't really good for inspiration, they're cool entertainment, but inspiration wise not really.

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