A VISION FOR THE FUTURE

[Marco Polo]

7 minutes ago, mckenna said:

kenny muldoon — Today at 16:06

should do

[16:06]

hear me out

[16:06]

you know like them peaky blinder edits for middle aged men

[16:06]

the gay quotes

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should do samp edits on tiktok

John Nairns — Today at 16:07

keep your enemies close

kenny muldoon — Today at 16:07

 

THINGS TO DO ON LSRP 

 

Edited November 19, 2024 by Marco Polo

[drumj]

Much like some of our faces still around I'm from the first generation of lsrp, y'all have it too easy, back then we had nothing, but we loved it, because it's a roleplay server and that's what we were expected to do, use our imagination and roleplay. Unfortunately the community only thrives with creators, a lot of you have lost your imagination and creativity, find it.

Not disregarding anything else in this thread 

 

And kudos to those that do create, because you're an asset to the server.

Edited November 19, 2024 by drumj

[Streetsoldier]

5 hours ago, drumj said:

Much like some of our faces still around I'm from the first generation of lsrp, y'all have it too easy, back then we had nothing, but we loved it, because it's a roleplay server and that's what we were expected to do, use our imagination and roleplay. Unfortunately the community only thrives with creators, a lot of you have lost your imagination and creativity, find it.

Not disregarding anything else in this thread 

 

And kudos to those that do create, because you're an asset to the server.

This is the realest shit I’ve read from an admin. This is exactly what’s wrong, and I don’t think it’s anything to do with the losing the ability to create RP. Personally, I think the new generation never HAD the ability to create such things.
 

I think people have been spoilt with new generation stuff, Ragemp and the millions of features. All the little things that mean fuck all in RP but actually takeaway from the imagination. The already scripted actions when you do a certain command. There’s a feature on GTA world that when you take a drug, you get bombarded with 4 lines of how you’d feel etc. I remember back in the day having to research that shit, I had no clue what certain drugs made you feel. We had to make our own shit up and go from there. I don’t just mean that specific scenario. There’s too many scripts and people expect it from an old generation game, it’s crazy. 

 

RP is out of the window. Too many people care about customisation, how their character looks, like it’s fucking sims. They care too much about taking a loss, they don’t care much about development and growth. They want to spawn in somebody that they’ve seen on TV and not have the story behind them to get there. Nobody builds their own story anymore. And screens, what the fuck is all this about screens having to be absolutely perfect? So long as you can showcase it, who the fuck cares really?! The problem we have today is:

 

Original players feel they’re owed this top OG status, because they’ve done their time in LS-RP.

 

New players (SOME, don’t fucking cry) don't have a fucking clue about roleplay and what it takes. It’s meant to be a long road, not just something you can achieve over night. 

 

Momentarily, I’d put LSRP under the same category as NGRP when that was in its prime. That is diabolical. This is mainly down to the admin team unfortunately, they’re allowing too much and doing too little. It feels there is no stability, and people are sick to fuck of DM and watching people get away with it. Mass DM should be an instant ban. Poor portrayal should be admin jail. There should be major punishment for those that do not adhere to game rules. Game rules that need changing also. 

 

Not that I want to target people, but why is brown pride even still a faction? I’ve never seen such a shit show in one faction in all of my life. I’ll probs get bombarded with “you cant say that, you’re breaking rules, that’s offensive”. Personally, I don’t care, I think it’s what the world needs. Someone to say it exactly how it is. I don’t have a problem with them personally, but every single encounter has been very very questionable. 
 

Moving on, because that one topic could last weeks…
 

There is no “vision for the future” if the staff cannot even open their eyes. Especially leading staff, such as Mmartin. If you want a community, and to carry on earning $$$? Start listening to YOUR community and make a change to the majority. Then there will be a future and not 84 players at peak time.

 

When LSRP relaunched, it hit numbers and could still hit numbers. You need to get back to basics, turn LSRP back into a hardcore roleplay server and start listening to those who actually care. Stop thinking quantity, but quality. Then there will be server might actually start rebuilding again. 
 

It will only decline if it carries on going the way it is, now is the time to make a change. 

Edited November 19, 2024 by Streetsoldier

[tracksuithitman]

5 minutes ago, Streetsoldier said:

I’ll probs get bombarded with “you cant say that, you’re breaking rules, that’s offensive”.

It's funny you mention Brown Pride because we had a few of their members trying our trailers every single day to check our /cmdspot for weapons during the early hours when none (or barely any) of us were IG. They've reportedly been back a few times since being killed, which only happened in the first place because I'd rather take things IC and avoid the spastic process of reporting. That is the extent of their capabilities of a faction and in terms of roleplay.

 

I wouldn't worry about the backlash of commenting on factions because really, and I'm not trying to shit talk but rather be honest, half if not more are seriously lacking and could be classed as low budget comedy acts at best; unfortunately, we can't refund our time spent viewing like we could on money spent on tickets, though.

Edited November 19, 2024 by tracksuithitman

[jcgortez]

Most of this topic seems to revolve around illegal factions, and how they were handled by server staff, so I feel I have to chime in too — as someone who has primarily role-played around law enforcement for nearly a decade. 

 

LFM has always been doo-doo under all the different leaderships on LS:RP, and it was no different this time around. Being extremely anal about stupid things like drivebying (which no one seems to even care about anymore. I wonder why?) while failing to address the larger issue of poor role-play standards, leadership and their activity (or lack thereof), and general incompetency. Poor leadership from faction leaders, coupled with LFM's inability to intervene, drove a lot of good legal role-players away: some left immediately, and others left eventually after realizing LFM, as it always has been, is incompetent and will not intervene. The only ones left now are those who "persevered through" a/k/a sat there until everyone competent left and they were the only ones left to be promoted. I don't want to be a "back in my days" type of guy, but most of these guys were/would be hard stuck as a P2/Generalist in PD/SD "back in my days," but have managed to find their way to the upper echelons of leadership simply because there's no one else. This was an okay-ish strategy on Rage to retain the little players it had, but it was terrible for the return of SAMP because they drove away a lot of the returning (and often more competent) players.

 

These low standards have also trickled down to the rank and file, making role-play with law enforcement generally an incredibly frustrating experience. You can't stay in-game for 10 minutes without some bastard with his wall hacks pulling you over for the umpteenth time and screaming "Pennsylvania vs. Mimms" to pull you out of the car and initiate a gunfight. I don't even wanna go into the optics of "parole agents" conducting traffic stops, engaging in pursuits, and drivebying from their cars. I guess LS:RP finally got its third law enforcement faction, not in the form of SAHP or FBI, but SADCR, in some weird way.

 

I'm personally not of the opinion that the server can be saved anymore. The server's been up for more than 6 months now (?) and it could've definitely been helped when the first two or three warning signs popped up. But when you ignore the blaring sign for the tenth time and just hope everything fixes itself, you've reached the point of no return. This is specially the case for LS:RP, which has a history of ignorantly repeating this cycle.

 

All that said, LSPD does seem to be in a better place than it has ever been, at least in terms of its management. As for other factions, they have never been worse.

[Kurdii]

The heads of the official faction team must act swiftly to make unofficial factions official before the playerbase fully dwindles. Delaying this process risks further stagnation, as players become disillusioned with a lack of fresh roleplay opportunities. New factions bring innovation, excitement, and dynamic storytelling, which are essential for maintaining player engagement. Without these additions, the server risks becoming repetitive and uninspiring, causing both veteran players and newcomers to lose interest. By promoting new factions, the team can reinvigorate the community, attracting new players and keeping the server alive. Timely recognition of these factions is crucial to preserving the server's growth and ensuring it doesn’t fade into irrelevance.

 

TLDR; Make unofficial factions who deserve it official before the server dies out fully.

[Mixo]

On 11/19/2024 at 2:46 AM, Sfaccimma said:

Not only a couple of admins at peak time but some aren't even around at all. We have been waiting since JULY for a faction complex. We filled the correct apps, reached out to everyone from different teams and our faction leader a month ago or so got told to get off his high horse after reaching out to @badhbh. Not to mention (and yes I am going to name and shame because it has becomes ridiculous now) that out factions complex app has been left on NOT READ since July from both @Spectre & @badhbh.

 

When they got told on discord they replied saying missed our PM, but despite us bumping that PM over the months and reaching out via discord and joining the IFT Channel. Nothing is moving and the waiting carries on lol ridiculous

 

Welcome to the fucking club. I filled a ticket in July and they answered me in October, saying "Discord had a bug". And I think it's time to say badbh didn't answer 1 single message I sent her until jack pinged her. And before you give me the "ohhh we have a life we're busy too"- you had MONTHS to free up your freaking chair. Factions are the oxygen of LSRP, you should've known by now. FM single handedly and systematically pushed out members who were willing to spend time and effort to make the community better.  The only one that cared was Flip and sadly he left too.

 

Go ahead, change my mind 🤡

Edited November 21, 2024 by Mixo

[tracksuithitman]

The end times are upon us, made clearer by Flip's resignation from FTC. I for one am done beating a dead horse and trying to advocate. 

[XSystem]

Ugh hello everyone.

[Slice]

Some people are just riding on old merits. If you’re not spending time on the server and staying active, maybe it’s time to step down and let others who are actually active and care about making the server better take those positions. It’s time for some changes, and honestly, people need to drop the negative mindset. Instead, focus on things that can actually improve. But yeah, in the end, some changes at the top are definitely needed, at least in my opinion.

[Flimerus]

13 hours ago, Mixo said:

 

Welcome to the fucking club. I filled a ticket in July and they answered me in October, saying "Discord had a bug". And I think it's time to say badbh didn't answer 1 single message I sent her until jack pinged her. And before you give me the "ohhh we have a life we're busy too"- you had MONTHS to free up your freaking chair. Factions are the oxygen of LSRP, you should've known by now. FM single handedly and systematically pushed out members who were willing to spend time and effort to make the community better.  The only one that cared was Flip and sadly he left too.

 

Go ahead, change my mind 🤡

 

You’re dead right I made this post in IFM public on Wednesday and nobody replied so I’m just gunna post my thoughts here 

tbh I think it should be fuck the entirety of IFM off and start fresh with people VOTED in not assigned because it’s just jobs for the boys 

 

it was titled 

 

 

 

REVAMP IFM AND INTRODUCE VOTING SYSTEM

 

"If you don't like the truth, change it" - me, 2024.

This post is not meant to upset, insult, or throw shade to anyone; this is nothing but the cold truth and if you are offended or upset by this truth, then it is simple, you must change the truth, such that the community is in better stead.

Voting System

How this will work, leaders of the new IFT will need to be voted in a poll with an application/profile that has their claim to IFT leadership.

In doing this, you are forcing the IFT leadership to make changes the players are in need of and removes anyone who just wants to AFK the job role, or is not even motivated to chase the work needed.

This also exposes the wider playerbase to the people who are running IFT, and an understanding of why people should entrust them with the management of the illegal factions. 

IFTL should comprise of people who have extensive experience LEADING and CREATING SUCCESSFUL ILLEGAL FACTIONS. 

Currently it's all comprised of jobs for the boys who are just flexing rank. 

I beg to see what the current IFT have actually done for the illegal scene outside of take credit from players suggestions.

There needs to be a revamp of leadership who understand illegal roleplay and have been participating for years as leaders, it's clear the lack of experience is serving as a detriment to the current playerbase.

Why

It's clear why this needs to happen, the community is in a dire state, nothing has changed and the current upper management are inactive and clinging on to roles, and I know I'm not the only one who thinks this, it's the whole community and I dare say that we the majority are not wrong.

There is no need for alliances, and there is no need for trade anymore, drugs have been massively devalued and the only thing that holds value nowadays is guns (barely, and for all the wrong reasons).

These "schemes" have only crushed the players ability to create interesting roleplay and connections, and the market of illegal trade, and IFT's "schemes" are only making the situation worse, hyper influx, and piss poor management. And if you don't like these words, well you better swallow them because its the truth.

The reason this system also works so much better, is because it's the community who decides gets put in these positions, we can see who has the credentials to manage the servers direction, and those who have the passion and motivation to make a good needed change to the scene, otherwise, we might as well all /q and let the fun die.

Edited November 22, 2024 by Flimerus

[Flimerus]

On 11/19/2024 at 4:37 PM, drumj said:

Much like some of our faces still around I'm from the first generation of lsrp, y'all have it too easy, back then we had nothing, but we loved it, because it's a roleplay server and that's what we were expected to do, use our imagination and roleplay. Unfortunately the community only thrives with creators, a lot of you have lost your imagination and creativity, find it.

Not disregarding anything else in this thread 

 

And kudos to those that do create, because you're an asset to the server.

 

This falls true but like all ecosystems creators are one element, some people love trade, whether it be drugs and guns, properties and cars. Systems need revamping and the economy and state of affairs that manage these processes also needs repairing otherwise people become demotivated.
 

I also think the community used to be much more intertwined where management would actually listen and engage more. I beg to hear what lead admins  or leaders of the community have communicated with there longest standing factions, if at all to hear the state of affairs.  
 

[Sargento]

This thread has been active for nearly a month now, yet what tangible actions have the leaders of this community taken during that time? What I’m pointing out is this: numerous thoughtful and constructive ideas have been presented here. Is there any genuine intention to act on these suggestions, or will they simply be disregarded, leaving the server to stagnate and deteriorate further? From my experience, addressing raised concerns with urgency and seriousness is essential. Ignoring them risks alienating the community, and once that damage is done, it’s often irreversible.

 

I reached out to Mmartin via Discord, offering my assistance. My daily work involves driving improvements and collaborating on implementations, yet I received no response. It’s often challenging for a small group to find an effective and sustainable path forward on their own. Instead, involving the broader community is key—leveraging its collective input and ideas. After all, isn’t that what we all want? To find the best way forward together?

[DDaniels]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:42 PM, tracksuithitman said:

The end times are upon us, made clearer by Flip's resignation from FTC. I for one am done beating a dead horse and trying to advocate. 

 

It's truly unfortunate that he resigned, but I get it...

[MoneybagsCarminati]

11 hours ago, manslaughter said:

@trksthtmn any more ideas on how you top tier, top of the barrel community members can hold this thing down? @MoneybagsCarminati you got some ideas? Come on guys you were so vocal, let’s make some shit happen.

Here's some ideas.  
Step 1.  Ban this fuckin impotent cuck from the forums, or this discussion at least.  He adds nothing to the conversation, he's just here to get some type of revenge for his faction being shut down for deathmatching.  Nobody here is looking to "make it happen" with the hot dog salesmen of Idlestacks Pizza, alright?  Tell Down-Broadway Wayne he can talk all the shit he wants about Bellomo, we were never shut down for deathmatching, what an embarrassment.  When you apologize to everyone in this discussion, I'll acknowledge you once again.  Until then, go get a haircut and find something to do on Identity or Roblox and please don't address me ever again, you fucking prepubescent lol.
 
Step 2. @trksthtmn Stop talking to manslaughter, he's just here to derail the thread and put a good discussion in a bad place.  

Step 3.  Scroll up and read my simple input.  Many people have input here, it's just he has a weird fixation with Bellomo and myself.   Mine is just there with the rest of everyone elses.  This entire thread should be considered, starting with the original post.

Apologies to LSRP staff in advance for the outburst, manslaughter was invited to take his obsequious shit talking to DMs, but he's super quiet, like I'd imagine he is in real life.  Just mute him or something.

I'll take the warning/punishment/whatever someone had to tell this moron to go pack sand lol.  I'll be the bad guy today.

For all of you who have partaken in this discussion, please, do me a favor, ignore this outburst and continue on with the ideas.  It's getting somewhere and that's why people are acting up on this thread.  Don't worry, we see you.  💯
 

Edited November 23, 2024 by MoneybagsCarminati