A VISION FOR THE FUTURE

[MeowTheEpic]

8 hours ago, manslaughter said:

with their below sub-par rp who contributed nothing throw pot shots because they have the platform now with a low PB and no competition along with the favoritism to do it, all the petty bs reports from an inactive faction that rp's a lcn organization like we're in 1942 Brooklyn NY

Since we're talking about our portrayals here, You've got your Boss and Underboss publicly associating with their narcotics dealing acting like this isn't 2024 and there's a camera pointed at you at all times. I don't think murdering clowns in broad daylight in the middle of an intersection is a very realistic portrayal of a modern LCN Underboss. More reports on your members that weren't even made by Bellomo members by the way than half of LSRPs factions combined Mr.Quality RP. The fact that you find yourselves in a Bellomo business every other day just to do your best to bait a violent reaction because your leadership has the mental maturity of a newborn baby is also funny, can't get over IC events and turned it into an OOC feud.

Apparently keeping a low profile and minding your own business amounts to a low quality portrayal but I can't blame you since you're used to killing five people per day for looking at you funny. By the way tell your friends to keep creating level 1 accounts to drive straight from the airport to The Brickhouse just to troll, we enjoy it.

What have Vesci contributed to the server other than filling the forums with screenshots of voided scenes and report threads? If you had an ounce of common sense and decency we wouldn't even have made a single report but yeah, keep that childish notion that everyone is out to get you because you're too good. If everyone says you smell like shit then you probably smell like shit and it isn't an issue with their sense of smell.



I apologize for derailing the thread but there's so much bs a man can read without replying to it. It's a good thread with multiple opinions and valid ideas, I just hope management can utilize them properly before it's too late. 

[tracksuithitman]

Let's move on from the messiahs of mob roleplay now, before they start throwing homophobic and racist slurs (yes, that's what they do, especially Wayne).

 

Current officials are being reviewed currently to ensure standards are being met; IFT seem to be pulling their weight which comes as no surprise, as do the developers. 

[MoneybagsCarminati]

12 hours ago, manslaughter said:

 

hey, go ahead and kumbaya this shit together, im just replying because im not gonna sit here and have factions/people like bellomo and co, with their below sub-par rp who contributed nothing throw pot shots because they have the platform now with a low PB and no competition along with the favoritism to do it, all the petty bs reports from an inactive faction that rp's a lcn organization like we're in 1942 Brooklyn NY

 

other than that, i stand corrected. This thing will last centuries, im highly certain. keep it up fellas

 

 

 

A big piece of me wants to entertain this sad cry for help.  The bigger piece of me understands what this thread is here for and why your replies are off topic.  And why mine would be. 

 

Get a grip young man, I've probably been around since before you started watching paw patrol.

 

Nice update by the way.  Lets bring forth a good canvas for character development.

 

@manslaughter  You reading that buddy?  CHARACTERRRR DEVELOPMENNNNNT.

 

EDIT-  By the way, IDK what this guys talking about favoritism, property management has ignored us on numerous accounts in getting complexes or schemes, businesses.  If the assumption is that we're the "favorite" here, just reread some of what's been said.  Peoples responses corroborate the fact that perhaps I was a pariah here for the longest time, and not because I killed so many virtual people or lead the charge in more PK wars than I care to remember, but it came down to one very simple, FIXABLE thing.

 

My attitude.  And here we are on a thread looking to address certain changes that need to be made, well why don't we do what Fitzi says to do and read between the lines.  Change your attitudes, before any of the listed changes should be made.

 

If I could do it, why can't you?  Looking at the bigger picture, its no wonder there is no sympathy at all for people who suffer from main character syndrome and think that this server is a playground for them and just them.  This thread shouldnt be about any particular faction.  I got some qualms with some of the factions on this server, who cares?  People got a problem with a faction I started and don't even run anymore, who cares?  For the people who hold onto 10 year old grudges, it shouldnt have mattered then, I'm happy to say it doesn't matter now, and it's not gonna matter in the future once we do what this thread is saying to do without saying.

 

Change your attitudes, and you'll see the environment around you change with it.  You don't need to be a brain surgeon to understand that what you manifest can be a blessing as easy as it can be a curse.

 

Just enjoy yourselves and enjoy the journey of new characters.  We got something very nice going these days, between our LCN factions looking forward to a more realistic setting, doing more business, our police factions working together instead of against each other, and the staff beginning to actually listen to player concerns.

 

Why don't we just start with the day one stuff again?

 

1.  Follow the in game rules.

2.  Keep the immaturity to a minimum.

3.  Don't ban evade.

 

You breach any two of these rules, you need to reread the assignment.  We're all here doing the same thing, if you want to be part of this change, just start with the basics.

 

Most of all:  If 3 rules are somehow too much for you to handle, just start with the one thing we should all know.

 

Develop your character.  Thats it.  Start there.

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by MoneybagsCarminati

[Dopelarge]

The answer is ban all the DMers off the server and LS RP will be great again.

[MoneybagsCarminati]

2 hours ago, Dopelarge said:

The answer is ban all the DMers off the server and LS RP will be great again.

 

Or...Punish DMers.

And ban assholes. 🤷‍♂️

 

Its a shame to see people not really taking this seriously, but as mentioned in the original post, this is what he means when he talks about the culture shift.  

 

The good news is, the people who participated in this thread and want to see the change we're looking for, we are taking it serious.  And this server is already on it's way to another culture shift.

 

I don't think we're throwing out any life preservers when this ship leaves port neither.  Now's the time to shit or get off the pot.

[manslaughter]

12 hours ago, tracksuithitman said:

I don't think we need to take lessons from somebody who was apart of The Vesci Crime Family, the self-acclaimed messiahs of LCN roleplay who made emotes such as:

• /me attends a sit down between the wops and bikers.

• /me is the boss of the Vesci Crime Family.

• /me stuffs a dollar bill in Female_Name's asshole.

 

I wouldn't even bother entertaining it. The only reason the focus is being shifted onto Bellomo is because of the two faction reports that were made against them, one of which they received a strike for. If they had not gone on a massive DM spree they were going to be closed the very same night following a third strike.

 

I am the furthest thing from a fan of Bellomo, which Curly and Sarno can attest to themselves, but The Vesci Crime Family was some of the worst drivel I've witnessed plague the faction forum in over a decade. Led by a Bellantonio reject who recently got his panties in a twist over a CK that took place over 6 years ago, it really is no surprise that they failed.

 

Bore off.

 

you're literally irrelevent. Keep having your homies jerk you off tho, since they're all testers now. You're per grade with Bellomo you inbred mutt

 

I'm glad Martin dropped u like a bad habit, maybe you can learn to have a life now or maybe smell a little bit of pussy for once

[manslaughter]

8 hours ago, MoneybagsCarminati said:

 

A big piece of me wants to entertain this sad cry for help.  The bigger piece of me understands what this thread is here for and why your replies are off topic.  And why mine would be. 

 

Get a grip young man, I've probably been around since before you started watching paw patrol.

 

Nice update by the way.  Lets bring forth a good canvas for character development.

 

@manslaughter  You reading that buddy?  CHARACTERRRR DEVELOPMENNNNNT.

 

EDIT-  By the way, IDK what this guys talking about favoritism, property management has ignored us on numerous accounts in getting complexes or schemes, businesses.  If the assumption is that we're the "favorite" here, just reread some of what's been said.  Peoples responses corroborate the fact that perhaps I was a pariah here for the longest time, and not because I killed so many virtual people or lead the charge in more PK wars than I care to remember, but it came down to one very simple, FIXABLE thing.

 

My attitude.  And here we are on a thread looking to address certain changes that need to be made, well why don't we do what Fitzi says to do and read between the lines.  Change your attitudes, before any of the listed changes should be made.

 

If I could do it, why can't you?  Looking at the bigger picture, its no wonder there is no sympathy at all for people who suffer from main character syndrome and think that this server is a playground for them and just them.  This thread shouldnt be about any particular faction.  I got some qualms with some of the factions on this server, who cares?  People got a problem with a faction I started and don't even run anymore, who cares?  For the people who hold onto 10 year old grudges, it shouldnt have mattered then, I'm happy to say it doesn't matter now, and it's not gonna matter in the future once we do what this thread is saying to do without saying.

 

Change your attitudes, and you'll see the environment around you change with it.  You don't need to be a brain surgeon to understand that what you manifest can be a blessing as easy as it can be a curse.

 

Just enjoy yourselves and enjoy the journey of new characters.  We got something very nice going these days, between our LCN factions looking forward to a more realistic setting, doing more business, our police factions working together instead of against each other, and the staff beginning to actually listen to player concerns.

 

Why don't we just start with the day one stuff again?

 

1.  Follow the in game rules.

2.  Keep the immaturity to a minimum.

3.  Don't ban evade.

 

You breach any two of these rules, you need to reread the assignment.  We're all here doing the same thing, if you want to be part of this change, just start with the basics.

 

Most of all:  If 3 rules are somehow too much for you to handle, just start with the one thing we should all know.

 

Develop your character.  Thats it.  Start there.

 

 

no ones reading all of this, you 40 year old virgin.

 

Again, shit rpers with a little bit of shine now that they have no competition weening off a dying server who still lives with mommy and daddy (if u have one, but that way u turned out im sure he left you too)

[manslaughter]

16 hours ago, Michael_Dippolito said:

If Bellomo’s roleplay is so sub-par then why does their opinion  or whatever pot shots they are taking matter to you so much that you make this topic; the sole purpose being to strategize as a community to attract more players, entirely about Bellomo? You didn’t have to roleplay with Bellomo. This favoritism you speak of wouldn’t have been a factor (so you say) in your faction’s immediate closure had you just avoided them all together.  @manslaughter

 

So aside from Bellomo: what do you believe is something that would attract a good mixture of well-rounded role players to the server? 

 

i think having staff support for unofficial factions to continue to thrive and want to grow would help. I'd show you what my recommendations were to IFM but my account is banned.

 

Updates like the last one, albeit a little late, but consistently put out would help maintain or grow a PB tremendously. But wtf do i know, the messiah of all rp has deemed me unfit to speak. 

 

Keep what's left of the server pleased and add fresh ideas to the table, active support from staff, not allowing factions to throw a barrage of reports for petty bs because they suck, etc.

Edited November 16, 2024 by manslaughter

[tracksuithitman]

4 hours ago, manslaughter said:

 

you're literally irrelevent. Keep having your homies jerk you off tho, since they're all testers now. You're per grade with Bellomo you inbred mutt

 

I'm glad Martin dropped u like a bad habit, maybe you can learn to have a life now or maybe smell a little bit of pussy for once

Who dropped me? I'm still here sunshine.

 

Nobody took Vesci seriously, just like nobody took Wayne seriously when he was in Bellantonio. Send my regards on and ask if he's still pent up about a CK that went down over 6 years ago for me, will you?

 

If you're smelling fannies I'd bring hygiene into question. Very strange and sad group you lot.

[n0de101]

@manslaughter keep hateful comments to yourself, you’ve been warned. That goes for everyone as well, don’t devolve into name calling please.

[MoneybagsCarminati]

I think its time to consider this.

 

 

 

"If it aint broke, don't fix it" says a banned player for DM.  lol.

[R.Hout]

I'm always hesitant to post on these types of threads because the topic always gets derailed and people start bashing one another when that's not what it's about. To keep it short and simple I think we need to currently not look at drawing more people onto the server and figure out how we can keep the current playerbase. Now I know it's peaking at around 100-175 players during the weekend and sitting at around 100-120 during the week. This is no where near where I as a member of this community would like to see it but that's how it is right now.  I don't want to knock the staff team because at the end of the day they're volunteers, right? They have lives, and dedicate time to keep this community fun and engaging. But that doesn't mean they can't be held accountable for things and the same goes for the community. Now how do we even go about doing that? I don't know if I'm being honest, that's why it needs to be a discussion and staff should be engaging in this topic. Not going back and forth about a instance somebody had or just popping in to shell out warnings. 

 

Engage with the community, lets have a discussion on why people don't log on and roleplay. What are the real root problems and how can we fix them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tracksuithitman]

There's a general feeling that tumbleweeds are flying all over the show at the minute. One step forward, two steps back springs to mind.

[Grover The Good]

3 hours ago, tracksuithitman said:

There's a general feeling that tumbleweeds are flying all over the show at the minute. One step forward, two steps back springs to mind.

 

Nothing ever happens.

 

Like many other communities, LS-RP's been like that for a while now. To quote DamianC, the focus has shifted from roleplaying to obtaining absolute power and maintaining the status quo many moons ago. Look no further than this topic: the only staff replies are to either defend themselves or to intimate people to behave — not a single one offers a constructive suggestion on how to move forward or outlines a roadmap for the weeks to come. And, again, like many other communities, this kind of thinking rolls down hill: why should people stay, let alone move over here from other servers, when those in charge seemingly don't care about it themselves?

 

This thread also makes it very clear that, again just like many other communities, LS-RP players these days are more concerned with the "quality" of roleplay others are providing than their own, with that mentality having been actively nurtured through the years by an outdated faction reward system, systematic staff corruption that promoted flattery and connivance over actually administrating and a server-wide culture that recognizes tearing your opponents down as opposed to rising up yourself. Some people in the comments above have blamed a competitor community for this try-hard mentality, but it was on LS-RP that it was born and cultivated.

 

The very basis of roleplay, establish an in-character culture based on in-game events, became not just frowned upon, but outright forbidden at some point. Whenever someone strayed away from the path they set, a new set of overly-complicated rules or a new team would be set up to oversee every aspect of the server and make sure that no one would escape the grasp of the so-called "realism", a realism that wasn't like Valenti's, where carefully crafted characters interact with each other in a believable way to build complex, long-lasting stories in the setting and lore they themselves created, but a mere copy-pasting of real-life concepts barely adjusted to fit the game and mechanically fed to faction members through continuous hammering of slogans and reminders on their Discord servers. And so roleplay became less about creativity and more about absolute power, until the enforcement of absolute power was all that was left.

 

This isn't something that happened in a week, or a month. It took a decade for this mentality to develop, take root and spread like it has right now: there's a whole generation of roleplayers who grew up on that standard and for whom overly-regulated roleplay that isn't aimed at building a cohesive narrative, supervised by people who advance through the staff not because their administration skills but only because they outlasted everyone else, is not only natural, it's all they've ever known.

 

It's very short-sighted to believe that just changing a couple parameters will bring back LS-RP as it once was, especially when none of those that could have intervened did, letting the server transition from a blank canvas where every player could draw to their heart's content as long as they abided by the most basic of rules to a dystopia where using the wrong term on a law enforcement in-character radio could get you a dress-down on TeamSpeak by a supervisor.

 

Suggestions were made, appeals written, indications given — multiple times. It was all preaching in the desert, and although that's perhaps the highest of callings, the results are laid out for everyone to see. The server clearly still has a lot of potential, even without reaching the once in a lifetime numbers it once did (at what cost?), but that potential cannot be unlocked unless the powers that be come to the realization that their server, their community needs them to take the lead and provide guidance.

 

But they've proven time and again to have little, if any, interest in doing so.

 

So what are you expecting? For @Michael to undo the damage that's been done in almost ten years overnight? @Mmartin's redemption arc?
 

Edited November 17, 2024 by Grover The Good

[fruit]

The civilian / legal roleplaying scene is so overlooked, and it's infuriating. Though this crowd is not as noisy and expressive on the forums, it's equally important (if not more than) as its illegal counterpart. The illegal roleplaying sphere is much more volatile, because if few players leave within a faction, its highly likely that others will follow suit very quickly. I find that this generally doesn't tend to happen with civilian roleplayers, as they're not bound by a faction to provide roleplay from, but rather can enjoy the server on their own. Therefore I think the management needs to start giving some more thought into improving the civilian roleplaying sphere as its much more easier to appease and contain. I'll list some of the problems I've noticed, and hopefully shedding light onto these issues can generate some discussion around this overlooked part of the server.

 

Problem:

The originality is lost when it comes to businesses. It seems that every faction or business owner exclusively runs a club or a bar, rather than thinking of something creative. This has made business roleplay so repetitive that it's not fun for either the business owner, or the go-ers. If you look past the facade of the fleet of company vehicles outside a business opening, you'd realize that 80% of the people inside each business opening are actually the business staff, rather than actual go-ers.

Solutions:

• There are so many unique businesses still on the server. Why not auction them if they're not being actively used? For example, Waterpark, Aquapark, Los Santos Forum, Visage.
• Introduce ready-made unique businesses on auction, rather than putting clubs / bars on auctions. This means putting already furnished businesses on auctions. For example, there should be clothing stores, go-karting arenas, motocross arenas, theatres, comedy clubs, gyms, mechanic garages, museums, art galleries, betting shops, office spaces, ice-cream shop, paintball arena, gun ranges, country clubs, music studios, escape rooms, news agencies etc.

 

Problem:

It's almost impossible to purchase a business at the moment from another player.

Solution:

The solution is quite simple to this one. Just auction off more inactive businesses. Though I have no evidence for this, but I believe almost half of the businesses on the server are owned by inactive players. Why not auction them? What harm does it do? There are so many inactive businesses with insanely beautiful interiors and concepts that I wish would be auctioned. For example, Narc's 24/7 with a safehouse is a business I'm sure any faction would love to roleplay at, but it's collecting dust near the mall.

 

Problem:

There is very little entertainment for a new player after the initial grinding phase ends. I find that players who don't want to roleplay an illegal character, generally start slowly drifting away from the server just because of the sheer lack of options they have at hand. Other than trucking, working as a taxi driver, working as a staff, or going to clubs / bars, what else is there to do?

Solutions: 

• The events team can host mini events every now and then. For example, marathons, scavenger hunts, basketball games, BMX stunts event at the skatepark or BMX races at Flint County, car meetups, live car auctions, rally races, city bus tour rides around all three cities, magic shows etc. I loved the halloween event at Bone County, and I think we need more events like that in the future too.
• Though the developers have made HUGE improvements, the introduced updates are mostly support features that help elevate existing features, rather than being new features on their own. Although I'm not imaginative enough to think of anything new that can be added at the moment, I'm sure introducing new jobs and scripts that are not just geared for newer players (like farming, trucking, taxi) but also for seasoned players will be a huge help.