San Andreas Judiciary / Courts, what would you like to see?

[Sparkles]

15 hours ago, RyanW said:

Judges are around as much as they can be; at the end of the day it's a game and not a part-time job. PD/SD won't be required to take you to the courthouse in game at the time of your arrest. You'll get the opportunity to contest your charges on the forum post-arrest. 

So the exact way it was on samp. Gotcha

 

Is the not having to go to IA before contesting still in place? 
 

 

[Sparkles]

23 hours ago, Freedom Fighter said:

Having courts on the forums solves everything.

I’m aware, but RyanWs post talked about the opportunity to contest them IG. 
Hence my question towards him about it 

[Sparkles]

15 hours ago, RyanW said:

Most of what you said is already implimented in LSRP. It seems pretty apparent that you haven't had much experience in the legal scene here on LSRP. Courts are held on the forums, warrants are already a thing and already must be signed off by a judge. Legislation is also already a thing and we have numerous acts coming into play on launch from legislation.

 

We also already have a RICO Act.

Courts were also held IG when judges were available, we also had a discord channel where PD/SD could long judges as they called them IG - Only used for urgent cases. 

 

22 hours ago, mtz64 said:

agree, having a good warrants "system"/concept would be a really great addition to the game. same with RICO.

Warrants and RICO have already existed in LSRP. 

[Kane]

45 minutes ago, Fiendfyre said:

Is the not having to go to IA before contesting still in place? 
 

 

Having to go through IA first to file a law suit made no sense imo.

[mtz64]

2 hours ago, Fiendfyre said:

Warrants and RICO have already existed in LSRP. 

i know, i'm just making sure that this will be still a thing on V.

[Sparkles]

1 hour ago, Kane said:

 

Having to go through IA first to file a law suit made no sense imo.

I completely agree and that's why I personally made it very easy for people to appeal charges the best I could when I was chief justice.  I'm just trying to make sure that it's still going to be a thing. 

[mattmocz]

10 hours ago, KnownAlmighty said:

I expect for the possibility of charge drop outs on criminals that eventually will cut them loose if courts are to take place in the game. Not always a win to win play by the PD/SD once arrested, let the criminals run from the charges too from time to time If not found guilty.

Depending on the way the jail times work, this can be entirely possible without in game court. If you are in jail for a few days and appeal to the DA’s office, if they see your charges are bogus or don’t have enough to prosecute in court they could be dismissed and you may be set free.

[mattmocz]

2 hours ago, Fiendfyre said:

I completely agree and that's why I personally made it very easy for people to appeal charges the best I could when I was chief justice.  I'm just trying to make sure that it's still going to be a thing. 

Players will not have to file an IA report before contesting their charges. The process is yet to be entirely decided but RyanW and I are working on ways for players to appeal their charges in a way that isn’t a complete hassle or difficult.

[Sparkles]

4 hours ago, mattmocz said:

Players will not have to file an IA report before contesting their charges. The process is yet to be entirely decided but RyanW and I are working on ways for players to appeal their charges in a way that isn’t a complete hassle or difficult.

Are you also in charge of the courts? Apologies but the only one RyanW has identified as running the courts is himself. 

 

I had an efficiently written way for contesting charges that wasn't difficult or a hassle on the samp forums, from when I was chief justice 

[mattmocz]

On 1/20/2022 at 5:49 PM, Fiendfyre said:

Are you also in charge of the courts? Apologies but the only one RyanW has identified as running the courts is himself. 

 

I had an efficiently written way for contesting charges that wasn't difficult or a hassle on the samp forums, from when I was chief justice 

I am in courts leadership and assisting with the courts, yes. If you have any suggestions feel free on how things can be done hassle free, feel free to message me on discord mattmocz#4508.

[Sparkles]

22 hours ago, mattmocz said:

I am in courts leadership and assisting with the courts, yes. If you have any suggestions feel free on how things can be done hassle free, feel free to message me on discord mattmocz#4508.

I asked the questions I had here but thanks for the offer

[Sparkles]

Will those who were bar certified on SAMP be transferred over?

[mattmocz]

9 hours ago, Fiendfyre said:

Will those who were bar certified on SAMP be transferred over?

Yes. More information will come available as we continue to finalize things, but I’d recommend joining the Judiciary discord to get updates as they come. https://discord.gg/6EZJFFmgPn

[Satnik]

This is very critical moment in which playerbase has to be immediately convinced and assured that the courts and court RP will function. Based from what was covered in this topic, it seems majority of work was done already and the rest remains but a formality. Nice job.

Due to practical reasons, it's only reasonable to establish system that will run smoothly - this means most of stuff will simply have to occur on forums. However, I believe everything in power should be done to allow players who would genuinely like to engage in court roleplay to do so and give them a chance. Maybe down the line, once the judiciary has a decent number of staffing, some sort of "on-duty judge" system could be established, to ensure one judge could always be reached out to during the "workday", to allow for such kind of impromptu roleplay to take place. Maybe down the line in near future.

In addition, hosting more or less frequent group hearings (pardon my ignorance, I'm not sure what the proper English term is - the kind of stuff they do in "Caught in Providence") to allow people to contest their lesser offences (infractions and some misdemeanours). It would really send out a message that courts are there, ready to take a big bite, and that people shouldn't hesitate to engage in that kind of roleplay.

Unrelated, but I'm 100% in favor of not having to go through departmental IA first in order to file a lawsuit. Doesn't make sense and gives the respective IA body too much power in that segment. As for the clerks being NPCed, not necessarily a good idea. Clerks and legal interns are positions where aspiring judges, attorneys and prosecutors start off. Having that kind of position open for human players might, you never know, allow for complete laic to one day pursue real-life career in law.

[mattmocz]

Our first informational post has been made, the Introduction to the Criminal Justice system. Feel free to check it out and send any questions/concerns to myself.