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What did you say then? IC issue and what else?

This is why these threads don't last long, I've reviewed my logs from the conversation that evening and this is plainly false. This is not the place to address specific incidents as the conversation inevitably devolves into a back and forth like this.

Node said that they were involved in 2 raids there and didn’t wanna go through with it again. As for the failed raids, yeah, that’s SD. As for the shooting upon entering the complex? Have some common courtesy, this is LSRP not IRL, it isn’t a server destined only for PD’s win. SD has twice taken that risk and didn’t shoot us upon entering, so had your faction before, yet this time they’ve decided that they’re tired of it and just shot us down upon entering, now you’re just bringing up a case, where indeed people can be taken hostages, but this is a game and this is breach of common courtesy and also play to win mentality.

This complex you're referring to I assume is the one at Marina. The narrow staircase with a point position at the top. I'm not sure who gave you the reason "Two failed raids don't wanna go again" but I can only speak for the LSPD and please do confirm that you were talking to a LSPD member and not a member of another law-enforcement faction. I recall being on scene myself three times, twice deployed as SWAT, third time in pursuit of people who went there to barricade. I recall the third time there was an issue and I told the parties who reported to PM me directly so I can explain why they might have been shot. Understand that because this server is trying to be a realistic gamemode we use court cases from the United States. Specifically here Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1 (you can read about it). It applies here because you've got people in posession of illegal firearms fleeing from police towards a complex which would be occupied by members of the public (civillians). So the police are authorised to shoot to prevent further loss of innocent life if they believe those fleeing intend to harm the complex occupants (take them hostage, murder or otherwise). In regards to this: Think any real-life school shooting (tragic, yes) and imagine you're a police officer chasing a felon who runs into a school with an assault rifle he bought from the gun store. Would you shoot to prevent the loss of kids? The Cops in Uvalde Texas who were shamed for not entering or stopping the shooter before he entered sure wish they did and would've been within their right to do so. Also the use of this court case has been restricted in its interpretation over the course of LSRP. in 2015 the LSPD would be able to shoot you with an M4 for "Evading" which is a felony and swimming away in the water because you "intended to escape". We've long moved past this inaccurate representation. I say M4 specifically because only it can fire at a far distance and the rules around M4 usage was barely regulated at all. Different times though. In regards to two failed raids. Like I said I recall being on a SWAT team twice at that complex and both times we had no fatalities when making entry so either I wasn't there (Unlikely because I receive notifications about all raids/breaches from/through my faction) or you might be mixing up factions. The LSPD aren't the only ones with a tactical team (raids/breaches are usually done by SWAT/SEB)

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@Consistencyall of u are concerned about angellify and ehc’s traffic stop, how about you check this LSCC type scenario aswell?

Instead of just having this be another thread that will blow over or die out I'm going to be sporadically replying to those who I believe bring up genuine concerns. I can't promise to fix every problem as I don't preside over all people with a gun and badge, nor do I think there aren't issues on the illegal roleplay side too but I'll do my best to be approachable here. Those who I don't directly address can feel free to PM me with their concerns too, provided they are with faction members of the LSPD. (LSPD wears black/dark blue uniforms, LSSD wears tan/green uniforms) If you're unsure which faction they belong to you can forward it to the Head of Legal Factions or myself and we can point you in the right direction. I'll quote my original statement on this here. Regarding @Angellify While it isn't a server rule traffic stops that have no other purpose then to provoke a reaction isn't a gray area anymore. While I acknowledge that we portray the LAPD who are notorious for their racial profiling to combat gang violence we also took a hard look at things in May and drew a line in the sand in terms of what is allowed and what should be "nerfed". For the LSPD there are clear requirements that need to be met and you can read all about it here. (( Special Order No. 10-25 – Increasing the standard of roleplay and faction mentality - OOC Expectations )) These are additional LSPD internal restrictions. We've punished people for this and will continue to do so provided we know about it (through a report). The issue you described falls under 2. Stop and Search. If none of that crtieria was met and you have a screenshot of the interaction and a name then we'll investigate your report and reply with a conclusion. (Please PM me a brief report) Switching from an MP5 to a Deagle without roleplay can be considered Powergaming so feel free to post a forum report related to that.

Cut this, when I’ve asked you and Meri “Why did you shoot us upon trying to enter our faction complex?” she didn’t answer and you told us it’s an IC issue. You couldn’t even speak on behalf of your faction for a fuck-up they did. However on this thread I’ll praise Scumpy, unlike PD leadership / high ranks / admins, him and his high command really listen and fix up things if their party is in the wrong.

I’ll repeat my message from the other thread, throwing around accusations on a post like this does nothing to solve any issues there might be. I encourage people to report via the proper mechanisms (contact faction leadership, contact HoLF, forum or staff reports) otherwise things will be missed. No matter what people may think, reports are taken seriously and addressed with the relevant people - but they need to be made. As Head of Legal Factions I’ve made numerous changes over the past few months, all from the feedback of community members.

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Solution can be only one, cops like they are forced to be voice chat it's time for them to be forced to record their gameplay. END. All the hustles could be solved, when a party thinks he got targeted unfairly or with DM intentions, a simple report, cop provide the clip to handling admin and no more drama. Can also be given IC same as radio with voicechat, the camera is mainstream in 2025 But forgot like that they can't abuse helicopter+ nametags+ freecam to find you from the other side of the map.

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(For ppl in 3rd world countries that block sites for age verification, it's a SS of * Colt Faulkner checks for bulges*) This is the RP you grace us with every night, Kane. Then get bodied eventually. Doesn't it get old for you? We don't mind losing guns and drugs, but ya'll are just robotic about it. Feels like I'm on a cops & robbers server lately, there's 0 RP coming from PD. It's gotten to the point where we can't even take a drive out of our hood without a police car htiting an U-Turn and pulling us over. And it's not roleplay, atp it's deliberate targeting. Just shooting people down without RPing, ramming bikes to avoid a chase, switching between MP5s and Deagle's mid shoot out like this is CS:GO, list goes on. If PD is allowed to be a DM faction, EHC will follow suit. Then we will all just hop in game and shoot shit out with LSPD. EDIT: Just noticed @badhbh shut down the last thread citing "it has served it's purprose", literally the same day that thread was opened. It's not like it was a dead discussion. That seems to be management's stance on things, because obviously they do not see a problem with the way LSPD does things, so this thread is also useless.

Yall want PD to do anything but find your guns and drugs is what I'm getting at

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