A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive

[Kunis]

"A team without leadership is like a ship without a rudder that is certain to wander aimlessly."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bowlcutkid]

38 minutes ago, Flaxxer said:

 

 6 pages and 89% of it is literally solutions to the problem and you have the audacity with "rage insider" to even comment your 2 cents in on this. 

 

Why don't you go play LSRP V right now? Oh right. 

What change will happen on LSRP V that didn't happen on SAMP? Oh right.

Majority of players came back/are here due to the LSRP name, not because anyones exciited for the LSRP V release.

The small percentage that really hopes and wishes for LSRP V to flourish and do great are literal rejects of the SAMP scene.

 

Sorry if I come off as a bit mean here, but can the people who are only here for LSRP V and never even wanted to see SAMP do good just fuck off? We don't need your delusional 2 cents that 'Rage is the only future!". No one from the Rage team can answer me this; What's gonna change management wise/or even staff wise when you compare SAMP and LSRP V. Is Mmartin magically just handing this over to someone else? Does everyone from the SAMP team just get booted off or do you keep x amount of people based on the friends group? Like I can't comprehend how delusional you rage insiders are.

 

This thread is about the future of LS-RP, not just the future of LS-RP on SAMP. Yes, the game was fun 5 years ago before Rage was developed properly, but then it became superior in everyway. All the rage insiders you clearly dislike so much all played SAMP heavily and we enjoyed the server, but we also accept the reality that the game has seen its best days. LS-RP is going to either survive or die on Rage, the community's future won't be decided on SAMP. Nobody from the rage team are this upset, we all know the content is good and it's an upgrade over SAMP. I'm not sure I quite get the aggression because we all, me included, enjoyed SAMP but it was never going to last forever. 

 

I also don't get the blaming of management. The server started to decline years ago under old management but a lot of people seem to be blaming the current management for not doing more, but I see no real solutions. The stopped banning over trivial matters, they use admin jail far more than they used to, they're unbanning people and giving them 3rd, 4th, even 5th chances when old admins wouldn't have... The biggest mistake they made was not abandoning SAMP sooner, then maybe we'd have the share of 821 players currently on GTA:W.

[Kev]

13 minutes ago, Bowlcutkid said:

before Rage was developed properly, but then it became superior in everyway.

 

Could you elaborate? Because I remember being told there was no functioning plastic surgeon, drug script, etc 2 months ago.

 

How superior is rage right now being an insider, could you enlighten us?

[Nunwithagun]

RAGE has been (for a long time) and will always be superior to SAMP, SAMP is nice for the aesthetics, but in terms of long-term script support and diversity in terms of what you can do, RAGE will always trump SAMP. This is coming from the head of modding for SAMP, I can tell you that it's 100% easier to implement clothing, scripts, items, vehicles into RAGE than it is on SAMP, on SAMP you can't have custom vehicles, custom weapons, I tried to make custom kuttes/vests for MCs based off of one model that they could texture over but it's too much work for developers and the idea sunk from the get-go whereas in RAGE, most of the common MCs vests have already been made and are easy to add. And even if they aren't, it's super easy to re-texture the existing vests on GTA:V.

 

SAMPs nostalgic, that's why everyone came back, but after months of playing (even with updates adding new scripts which were janky at best due to how SAMP works), everyone realized that there was nothing more to SAMP, it was the same rinse and repeat cycle. I for one, alongside most of the community that's still left are waiting for LSRP:V, if it works it works but I'm not holding my breath.

[Danny]

24 minutes ago, Bowlcutkid said:

 

This thread is about the future of LS-RP, not just the future of LS-RP on SAMP. Yes, the game was fun 5 years ago before Rage was developed properly, but then it became superior in everyway. All the rage insiders you clearly dislike so much all played SAMP heavily and we enjoyed the server, but we also accept the reality that the game has seen its best days. LS-RP is going to either survive or die on Rage, the community's future won't be decided on SAMP. Nobody from the rage team are this upset, we all know the content is good and it's an upgrade over SAMP. I'm not sure I quite get the aggression because we all, me included, enjoyed SAMP but it was never going to last forever. 

 

I also don't get the blaming of management. The server started to decline years ago under old management but a lot of people seem to be blaming the current management for not doing more, but I see no real solutions. The stopped banning over trivial matters, they use admin jail far more than they used to, they're unbanning people and giving them 3rd, 4th, even 5th chances when old admins wouldn't have... The biggest mistake they made was not abandoning SAMP sooner, then maybe we'd have the share of 821 players currently on GTA:W.

 

Quoting OP, "The LSRP brand exists on SAMP, not on GTAV, and it’s glaringly apparent the SAMP server needs to be more of a priority going forward. LSRP SAMP failing is a marketing disaster for LSRPV". I'm sure the people commenting here are worried about the future of LS:RP on SA:MP and not on V, which you clearly couldn't give two fucks about.

 

[Kev]

From now on if you want to come and crusade for RAGE you should come and tell us what you spent your time doing on SAMP that makes you feel that it is dead in the water and that RAGE is the future.

 

The only insiders that have come forward so far are Natasha Valentine who graced us with the monumental roleplay coming out of Valentine hotel over the years and a LEO roleplayer who's recent forum posts span back to July.

 

I want to see credentials of what you actually roleplayed here or your opinion is simply invalid.

[Clack]

6 minutes ago, Nunwithagun said:

on SAMP you can't have custom vehicles, custom weapons

 

On LSRP with the current script? Maybe. But I have seen upcoming SA:MP servers who have a fully customized weapon and vehicle system.

 

A lot of dope things can be implemented on a SAMP server, it's all up to the dedication of the developers to do it.

 

However, the majority of the people who have commented here have stated that the script isn't why they've spent so many years on this server. Those players are usually good enough roleplayers to not be dependent on script features to come up with good roleplay concepts.

[Howard1]

1 hour ago, Flaxxer said:

The small percentage that really hopes and wishes for LSRP V to flourish and do great are literal rejects of the SAMP scene.

How can you call people that wish for LSRPV samp rejects? When 99% of them are holding valuable positions in their factions / staff team or wherever they are. 

 

80% of the people that talk in threads like this do nothing to improve SAMP. I don't see anyone joining as Tester and grinding his way to Lead Admin or something.

I don't see anyone learning how PAWN,MYSQL work so he can contribute to the SAMP Gamemode.

I don't see anyone hopping ingame and improving the quality of the roleplay that we have.

I don't see anyone learning how to map.

 

All I see is bashing poor gamemode, poor staff team, poor this poor this, I get it there are a lot of issues but no one is trying to do something, yall are just talking and bashing it.

 

"Unban people who cheated / DM'ed give them second chance" What the fuck? LSRP is in this state because of people like them. Those rules are made for something and if you really care about playing on LSRP you will respect them.

 

3 minutes ago, Kev said:

From now on if you want to come and crusade for RAGE you should come and tell us what you spent your time doing on SAMP that makes you feel that it is dead in the water and that RAGE is the future.

As someone who wants to roleplay LEO I deal with idiots on daily basis for the past 5months, people dont want to roleplay taser/tackle people will shoot you on traffic stop because you want to issue them ticket for something, I deal with people who barely speak any English. Every pursuit turns into mass DM, mass mg'ed ambush. And I hope that with RAGE we will rise the standards and those things wont be an issue.

 

 

 

 

[danut]

31 minutes ago, Kev said:

 

Could you elaborate? Because I remember being told there was no functioning plastic surgeon, drug script, etc 2 months ago.

 

How superior is rage right now being an insider, could you enlighten us?

 

I am interested on whether you can elaborate where your knowledge about where the RAGE project is at comes from. Is it that same discussion from the staff channel two months ago where you were given basic information about our progress since it was clear your "concern" wasn't coming from a place of genuine curiosity or interest? Anybody with access to the Discord server can follow the #git channel and see what features are being actively added or have been added.

Edited 43 minutes ago by danut

[Nunwithagun]

7 minutes ago, Clack said:

 

On LSRP with the current script? Maybe. But I have seen upcoming SA:MP servers who have a fully customized weapon and vehicle system.

 

A lot of dope things can be implemented on a SAMP server, it's all up to the dedication of the developers to do it.

 

However, the majority of the people who have commented here have stated that the script isn't why they've spent so many years on this server. Those players are usually good enough roleplayers to not be dependent on script features to come up with good roleplay concepts.

That's the problem, developers don't want to dedicate time anymore, I can't imagine SAMP is easy to script on, which is why I advocate for RAGE because as far as I'm aware it's a lot easier to implement new scripts and code. Of course good roleplayers don't need scripts and stuff but it does a lot more for the immersion if there's script support, RPing making drugs for example with no script support with a bunch of /me's followed by admin requests would be a whole lot lousier than having a dedicated script where you can roleplay the process as well as physically see what you're making.

[Clack]

2 minutes ago, Howard1 said:

1. 80% of the people that talk in threads like this do nothing to improve SAMP. I don't see anyone joining as Tester and grinding his way to Lead Admin or something.

2. I don't see anyone learning how PAWN,MYSQL work so he can contribute to the SAMP Gamemode.

3. I don't see anyone hopping ingame and improving the quality of the roleplay that we have.

4. I don't see anyone learning how to map.

 

5. All I see is bashing poor gamemode, poor staff team, poor this poor this, I get it there are a lot of issues but no one is trying to do something, yall are just talking and bashing it.

 

1. Provide me with any sufficient enough statement from a Lead Admin+ in terms of any significant improvement of SAMP in this current calendar year. If you do believe that you can "grind your way" to Lead Admin from Tester by truly being invested in LSRP and contributing positively, you are mistaken. It's a public secret as to how people go up the hierarchy and it's no different than your regular 9-5 office job.

2. All of the developers are currently focused on RAGE. Do you realistically think that management would hire someone as a developer if his sole purpose is to code on SAMP? Their clear intentions are to transcend to RAGE entirely, so even if someone had genuine interest to do that, he wouldn't get the job.

3. There were plenty of factions that were very active and improving the quality of the roleplay that we have however if you managed to read half of the posts on this thread, you would realize why those people refuse to contribute further until things change.

4. Plenty of talented mappers have done a solid job on LSRP however (for some reason), mapping additions were very selective and some took months to be implemented. Aberdeen cooked up a mapping on Star Street for the SOVA business and I'm not even sure if that mapping was added after all. I had to beg to management and the mapping team for a map to be implemented, MIND YOU it was done by a player who isn't in the mapping team. All they had to do was add it in and that took them (if they even added it) more than 4 months at this point.

5. You have proven to everyone that you have read all of our posts diagonially.

  

On 12/19/2025 at 2:23 PM, Clack said:

You aren't able to speak your mind on LS-RP, let alone accuse certain individuals of ruining the server with their imcompetence as it is considered "bashing".

 

You are also not able to lash our your frustration over things that you believe are absurd as that is also considered "bashing". The usual answer that you get from staff members to any of you "crying" is: "Why are you still playing then?"

 

Once you create a "civil" general discussion like this one, it will inevitably grow into fed up players who have a genuine passion for the server to come and start "talking shit". I will refrain from using my regular approach to these kind of threads as I don't want to see this getting locked. I know they are just waiting for someone like me to pour their heart out and have an excuse to throw this in the bin.

 

[Kev]

6 minutes ago, danut said:

 

I am interested on whether you can elaborate where your knowledge about where the RAGE project is at comes from. Is it that same discussion from the staff channel two months ago where you were given basic information about our progress since it was clear your "concern" wasn't coming from a place of genuine curiosity or interest? Anybody with access to the Discord server can follow the #git channel can see what features are being actively added or have been added.

 

You are asking me a question where I cannot respond without being banned from the forums for leaking.

 

Funny that this is how you respond too. Instead of challenging me why don't you tell the community what you are actually working on?

 

How close are we to the release of rage and how good is it?

 

Do tell.

[Danny]

17 minutes ago, Howard1 said:

I don't see anyone learning how PAWN,MYSQL work so he can contribute to the SAMP Gamemode.

 

One thing I can say is that it feels easier to start contributing to LS:RP compared to previous years. I remember applying multiple times for a developer role back when Damian & co. were in charge, and I honestly doubt my messages were ever read. This year, however, I sent an application and @danut replied fairly quickly, which at least gives the impression that there’s some interest in actively working on the SA:MP server. It never materialized, as life got in the way between the application and my introduction to the development team. I was told I could focus exclusively on the SA:MP server (in reply to @Clack saying that their intention is to pull the developers to RAGE), but I can’t attest to the veracity of that claim, since I haven’t yet seen how things operate internally.

 

That said, the barrier to entry is still very real. PAWN isn’t exactly attractive in 2025, documentation is fragmented, and most people with the skills to learn it would rather invest that time into something transferable. I think it’s less about motivation and more about opportunity cost. If you don’t already have SA:MP nostalgia pulling you in, it’s a hard sell.

Edited 34 minutes ago by Danny

[danut]

1 minute ago, Kev said:

 

You are asking me a question where I cannot respond without being banned from the forums for leaking.

 

Funny that this is how you respond too. Instead of challenging me why don't you tell the community what you are actually working on?

 

How close are we to the release of rage and how good is it?

 

Do tell.

 

Thank you for making it clear that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in regards to LS-RP:V. I do agree that there's real concerns and problems surrounding the SA-MP server, but dragging a project a lot of people are working on through the mud (with false information nonetheless) is not the solution to any of the problems that have been expressed in this thread and only encourages the conversation to be derailed.

[Kev]

Just now, danut said:

 

Thank you for making it clear that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about in regards to LS-RP:V. I do agree that there's real concerns and problems surrounding the SA-MP server, but dragging a project a lot of people are working on through the mud (with false information nonetheless) is not the solution to any of the problems that have been expressed in this thread and only encourages the conversation to be derailed.

 

If my information is wrong then please confirm you won't ban me so I can post screenshots here.