Make Gambling Illegal

[AltheAI]

i hate seeing gambling ads spam from casinos, so yeah i fuck with making it illegal ICly, or at least requiring licenses and shit so there's government involved and any shmuck with a bar can't open up a legal blackjack ring.

[SuperMarioD]

I hate gambling ads but the government will create a monopoly instead of regulating it well, so dunno if we need fully regulating it

[Robbie25]

Roze and Ten ran their casinos perfectly. 

 

They had a TON of rules, restrictions and even regulations when it came to actually running it and reaping from the profits, I remember seeing a charity screenshot of 11-12mil, from just one opening.

 

Although, a fresh reminder, the server's economy will be starting from the ground up, so not everyone is gonna magically have millions and even billions to go ahead and go wild.

 

 

[Adrian]

In concept this idea is alright, and it promotes a decent idea. But, in-game its too hard for all to comprehend and it will cause a lot of issues. It appeals more to certain groups of role-players who will control gambling, which isn't a bad thing, but after all it is a game. Having the ability to create in-character laws around gambling is an avenue to go down, or it can be OOCly controlled. Either way, there just needs to be a specific distinction on what is allowed and what isn't.

[Slimmmy]

On 2/21/2022 at 6:57 AM, i dont wanna od in LA said:

It's more of an IC issue honestly. Depending what scripts are available in this field of roleplay (I assume there's none at launch), it will most likely be addressed in the form of an IC law. I don't believe that all of gambling should be illegal though, no. Having illegal poker games makes much more sense when there's legally operating casinons as well. It is due to the fact that those backroom games usually take a much lower commission fee or whatever. As long as gambling isn't used (or literally abused) by asset-grinders I think it's cool. 

I somewhat agree, but I don't believe that this community should disallow gambling. Instead, owning and maintaining a casino should be made much more difficult. Who knows, you could be a potential government representative that opposes this activity. However, at the end of the day, for this topic at least, keeping things in-character doesn't really hurt.

[matt]

Like everyone else said, it's an IC issue. However, personally I'd like to see it kept legal due to the fact that it can still be used as a racket. The server lore is placed in 2023, gambling is pretty much legal everywhere, I don't see a reason to change it other than your obvious suggestion of it benefiting illegal rackets.

[Sal]

On 3/12/2023 at 9:07 PM, ROZE said:

This gives the illegal scene more to do, but takes away from the legal scene and the average player's ability to take part in gambling 

 

It should be done in a way which can benefit both sides.

 

Legal casinos have a tonne of regulations that they must follow if they want to operate, as well as extremely high taxes (50% back in SAMP). This gives illegal factions the opportunity to come in and undercut casinos, as they will not need to give half of their profits to tax.

 

The reason illegal gambling wasn't a thing in SAMP was because gambling was not covered by the scamming rule, meaning if you were gambling illegally, you could pay someone $1M for them just to run away. The way to fix this is to add some rules that protect certain games which would stop players from being able to be scammed so easily.

 

With protections for players in place, illegal casinos will be able to offer gambling at lower rates that legal casinos, with protections for the players.

An issue this raises though is that players would only ever decide to go to illegal casinos if they were full of advantages over legal casinos, to mitigate this, I think a limit to the max amount of money allowed to be gambled before it's no longer protected by rules would need to be in place, or some other nerf.

 

The truth is this sort of thing is pretty complicated to work out if we are to try and support both the illegal and legal gambling scene, and honestly both should be supported as it isn't realistic to have neither of the two options. 

 

I think this is the key here really - banning it outright is too far, but adding regulations and restricting it might allow for illegal gambling rackets to be more profitable/lucrative. 

 

I know some earlier comments mentioned that gambling is illegal in California, but when you look into the specifics of it, there are so many exceptions to this rule that it's more accurate to say it's "heavily regulated" with a tonne of hoops to jump through, to be done legally (see here). It's also true that LA has a plethora of casinos. 

 

Just get Gov to oversee a stringent licensing process for gambling licenses, keep the tax high on it as per SAMP, and see what happens. 

[Ali_Moreno]

Grow up.

[PrayingMantis]

Should be an IC issue but people gotta know that most forms of gambling in California is illegal… I think they allow card rooms, but I don’t see this as taking away from legal roleplayers or “most people” since you can just ask around icly to see who runs gambling dens or houses.. could help facilitate natural engagements of legal or semi legal characters with primary illegal characters. 

[DomVersi]

no ty

[holaa.]

as a gambling addict IRL do not make this illegal 

[Cayl]

7 hours ago, DomVersi said:

no ty

Well said.

Personally, I hope a script for any sort of gambling is never made. Not even a /roll function. Fuck gambling addiction. 

[Jerome]

No thanks.

[DomVersi]

25 minutes ago, Cayl said:

Well said.

Personally, I hope a script for any sort of gambling is never made. Not even a /roll function. Fuck gambling addiction. 

wdym i want a poker script n dice function

[Tinotaa]

#MAKEGAMBLINGADDICTIONGREATAGAIN and say no to this post.