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11 hours ago, Grover The Good said:

  

This isn't talked about nearly enough.

 

It's high time to stop pretending that spouting such nonsense as "you're expected to realistically portray the LASD/LAPD" is conducive to good roleplay, or that simply integrating real-life codes and procedures is a gateway to unlocking the secrets of police portrayal, or that pasting actual slogans over in-game mappings is all you need to achieve your best performance as a pixel cop, because nothing could be further from the truth. If the only defining trait of your character is acing 100% of the LASD/LAPD lingo while jumping from shootout to pursuit to tactical deployment, then you're not much better than any other virtual gangbanger who uses gang roleplay and AAVE as a paper-thin disguise to engage in server-sanctioned DM without any consequence.

 

Law enforcement roleplay somehow managed to pull a complete 360 and move from robocops whose only aim was to rack up as many arrests as possible while only engaging in action-packed scenarios, to a somewhat engaging and balanced level of police portrayal, right back to robocops whose only aim is to fill their sentences with as many LASD/LAPD terms as possible while only engaging in action-packed scenarios.

 

It's just a long string of disjointed episodes without anything holding the whole thing together, and how could it be otherwise? Hardly anyone takes their time to do some station roleplay or get to know other characters beyond a cursory introduction, debriefs after situations are done just because it's "real life procedures" and not out of a genuine interest of interacting with fellow faction members, good luck finding anyone above a first-line supervisory rank to discuss important matters because it's not "realistic" for commanders to be in-game and expect to be called out over faction chat if you don't use the right code or just say it in plain English instead of getting your message across in numbers.

 

While it's true that law enforcement factions receive a large amount of calls and can't possibly handle them all, it's also true that almost zero attention is given to anything else beyond the run and gun. Investigative roleplay is in shambles, held up by maybe five or six people in total. Patrol work is more shallow than it was in 2014 because even though the characters use more accurate terminology, they're nowhere near as interesting or have as much of a personality as they used to 10 years ago. Passive police roleplay is basically unheard of. And there's still people who somehow feel it's appropriate to use the "it's not about policing the server" motto. And it's absolutely not a problem limited to this server only, regardless of how popular others might be on other platforms.

 

The law enforcement roleplay scene these days can be summed up as people playing LSPDFR in multiplayer.

 

fax

 

2012-14 was peak leo rp. when cops used to bang it out with criminals in alleyways and would roleplay complete assholes that turned hoods inside out just to rile bangers up. michael westbrook doing on the street detective work interfacing with people on a daily basis lol they scrapped everything fun hyper focusing on emulation too much

 

detective rp in 2024 is riding around in an unmarked premier all day doing everything a regular patrol unit would do lol its so uninspired

 

do some bicycle patrols

have a department do some outreach work in neighborhoods and survey people 

do some foot patrols

go to a business on break and just chill there for an hour or something idk man it really isnt that hard to mix things up but the restrictions scare anyone who want to break out of the mold

 

 

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On 6/2/2024 at 11:54 PM, trashstar said:

 

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2012-14 was peak leo rp. when cops used to bang it out with criminals in alleyways and would roleplay complete assholes that turned hoods inside out just to rile bangers up. michael westbrook doing on the street detective work interfacing with people on a daily basis lol they scrapped everything fun hyper focusing on emulation too much

 

detective rp in 2024 is riding around in an unmarked premier all day doing everything a regular patrol unit would do lol its so uninspired

 

do some bicycle patrols

have a department do some outreach work in neighborhoods and survey people 

do some foot patrols

go to a business on break and just chill there for an hour or something idk man it really isnt that hard to mix things up but the restrictions scare anyone who want to break out of the mold

 

 

I have a very vivid memory of a situation where myself and another cop that were partnered pulled up to the Willowfield Cluckin bell and RP'd order food when the local gang rolled up into the parking lot and started talking shit and harassing us. Instead of escalating the scene and calling for backup, my partner at the time hopped out and squared up with their OG. My partner proceeded to beat the brakes off this gang RPer and then the gang let us go our separate way with the bragging rights.

 

That is by far one of those memories from back in the day that lives in my head rent free.

 

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12 hours ago, Complaicant said:

I have a very vivid memory of a situation where myself and another cop that were partnered pulled up to the Willowfield Cluckin bell and RP'd order food when the local gang rolled up into the parking lot and started talking shit and harassing us. Instead of escalating the scene and calling for backup, my partner at the time hopped out and squared up with their OG. My partner proceeded to beat the brakes off this gang RPer and then the gang let us go our separate way with the bragging rights.

 

That is by far one of those memories from back in the day that lives in my head rent free.

 

@Wildcat

 

And that character was a 63-year old man...

 

Good times.

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We won't allow a 63 years old police character nowadays. I think we have too many limitations and restrictions on what we cannot roleplay or, what is realistic and what is not. I think allowing certain dramatic or non-realistic things to the game should be allowed as long as it is fun. We should not really be chasing after realism at the cost of making the game no longer fun. Lenny Train is a great meme and great example. 

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On 6/2/2024 at 10:15 AM, Grover The Good said:

  

This isn't talked about nearly enough.

 

It's high time to stop pretending that spouting such nonsense as "you're expected to realistically portray the LASD/LAPD" is conducive to good roleplay, or that simply integrating real-life codes and procedures is a gateway to unlocking the secrets of police portrayal, or that pasting actual slogans over in-game mappings is all you need to achieve your best performance as a pixel cop, because nothing could be further from the truth. If the only defining trait of your character is acing 100% of the LASD/LAPD lingo while jumping from shootout to pursuit to tactical deployment, then you're not much better than any other virtual gangbanger who uses gang roleplay and AAVE as a paper-thin disguise to engage in server-sanctioned DM without any consequence.

 

Law enforcement roleplay somehow managed to pull a complete 360 and move from robocops whose only aim was to rack up as many arrests as possible while only engaging in action-packed scenarios, to a somewhat engaging and balanced level of police portrayal, right back to robocops whose only aim is to fill their sentences with as many LASD/LAPD terms as possible while only engaging in action-packed scenarios.

 

It's just a long string of disjointed episodes without anything holding the whole thing together, and how could it be otherwise? Hardly anyone takes their time to do some station roleplay or get to know other characters beyond a cursory introduction, debriefs after situations are done just because it's "real life procedures" and not out of a genuine interest of interacting with fellow faction members, good luck finding anyone above a first-line supervisory rank to discuss important matters because it's not "realistic" for commanders to be in-game and expect to be called out over faction chat if you don't use the right code or just say it in plain English instead of getting your message across in numbers.

 

While it's true that law enforcement factions receive a large amount of calls and can't possibly handle them all, it's also true that almost zero attention is given to anything else beyond the run and gun. Investigative roleplay is in shambles, held up by maybe five or six people in total. Patrol work is more shallow than it was in 2014 because even though the characters use more accurate terminology, they're nowhere near as interesting or have as much of a personality as they used to 10 years ago. Passive police roleplay is basically unheard of. And there's still people who somehow feel it's appropriate to use the "it's not about policing the server" motto. And it's absolutely not a problem limited to this server only, regardless of how popular others might be on other platforms.

 

The law enforcement roleplay scene these days can be summed up as people playing LSPDFR in multiplayer.

 

You post actually scares me. This issue is underlooked and is I think this is potentially a LSRP killer. If LSRP falls, this may not be the main reason but must be one of the main reasons. I am scared, concerned and worried. 

 

EDIT: What I will say does not represent any factions or anybody. But I am told that my friends in those factions share the same thoughts but are hesitating to say it publicly, but I will say it.

 

I disagree with your reasoning of passive police roleplay. Passive police roleplay will only happen after police roleplayers had enough fun of the main stream RP, aka pursuits and shootouts. 

 

What is so fun about police? Shootout and pursuits. Now we axed pursuits. Many people will prove me wrong but, tell me why SEB / SWAT is always more than 50% of online LEO playerbase? Just check ts.ls-rp.com:9988 and you'll find the statistics. Somehow, LSRP thought having a pursuit line chasing a car with normal speed for hours is realistic so they axed most PITs, interceptions and boxing. Then they thought well, chasing for long is bad so supervisors will not terminate pursuits if it goes for too long for too tiny reasons. Is it fun? I do not find it fun. I avoid most of the pursuits, really. 

 

A shootout is basically a torture for anyone that's not directly firing or SWAT/SEB. A barricaded suspect requires police officers and deputy sheriffs to stand outside guarding and watching the screen and basically staring while SWAT/SEB go inside and roleplay. In worse scenarios, random player will come to you and ask you very repetitive questions or just drive pass it, ruining the immersion and giving you burdens. 

 

In terms of the reasoning of Investigative roleplay in shambles, I have a lot to say about it. Let's first talk about how does a Detective win. Based on my experience, I can conclude two ways of detective roleplays. One is script-win and another is collective-win. Script-win is you use the scripts to locate the suspect and apprehend the suspect, without needing the suspects' OOC cooperation. Collective-win is when the suspect roleplays with you, PMs you non-script evidence and leads to their own conviction. What is more demotivating when you write 2,000 words in your investigative report, you do everything perfectly but the suspect CKs, doesn't respond to you, voids the situation and whatsoever? 

 

Another topic I want to say is Play-to-Win mentality. If Anti Play-to-Win works, why our PD/SD plays Robber/Cop servers when free? Play-to-win is a good concept but we took it wrong. We are taking Play-to-Win to an extreme where we are basically "Playing to lose". From a PLAYERS' perspective, if the suspect breaks the rule, we /ff. If the suspect non-rp drives, we /ff. If the suspect fails to RP and whatsoever, we /ff. We have unlimited free guns and cars doesn't entitle us to /ff everytime. 

 

How are we expecting our people to do passive roleplays and be passionate about passive roleplays when the needs for aggressive and active are not fulfilled? 

 

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10 hours ago, Tudounaozi said:

 

You post actually scares me. This issue is underlooked and is I think this is potentially a LSRP killer. If LSRP falls, this may not be the main reason but must be one of the main reasons. I am scared, concerned and worried. 

 

EDIT: What I will say does not represent any factions or anybody. But I am told that my friends in those factions share the same thoughts but are hesitating to say it publicly, but I will say it.

 

I disagree with your reasoning of passive police roleplay. Passive police roleplay will only happen after police roleplayers had enough fun of the main stream RP, aka pursuits and shootouts. 

 

What is so fun about police? Shootout and pursuits. Now we axed pursuits. Many people will prove me wrong but, tell me why SEB / SWAT is always more than 50% of online LEO playerbase? Just check ts.ls-rp.com:9988 and you'll find the statistics. Somehow, LSRP thought having a pursuit line chasing a car with normal speed for hours is realistic so they axed most PITs, interceptions and boxing. Then they thought well, chasing for long is bad so supervisors will not terminate pursuits if it goes for too long for too tiny reasons. Is it fun? I do not find it fun. I avoid most of the pursuits, really. 

 

A shootout is basically a torture for anyone that's not directly firing or SWAT/SEB. A barricaded suspect requires police officers and deputy sheriffs to stand outside guarding and watching the screen and basically staring while SWAT/SEB go inside and roleplay. In worse scenarios, random player will come to you and ask you very repetitive questions or just drive pass it, ruining the immersion and giving you burdens. 

 

In terms of the reasoning of Investigative roleplay in shambles, I have a lot to say about it. Let's first talk about how does a Detective win. Based on my experience, I can conclude two ways of detective roleplays. One is script-win and another is collective-win. Script-win is you use the scripts to locate the suspect and apprehend the suspect, without needing the suspects' OOC cooperation. Collective-win is when the suspect roleplays with you, PMs you non-script evidence and leads to their own conviction. What is more demotivating when you write 2,000 words in your investigative report, you do everything perfectly but the suspect CKs, doesn't respond to you, voids the situation and whatsoever? 

 

Another topic I want to say is Play-to-Win mentality. If Anti Play-to-Win works, why our PD/SD plays Robber/Cop servers when free? Play-to-win is a good concept but we took it wrong. We are taking Play-to-Win to an extreme where we are basically "Playing to lose". From a PLAYERS' perspective, if the suspect breaks the rule, we /ff. If the suspect non-rp drives, we /ff. If the suspect fails to RP and whatsoever, we /ff. We have unlimited free guns and cars doesn't entitle us to /ff everytime. 

 

How are we expecting our people to do passive roleplays and be passionate about passive roleplays when the needs for aggressive and active are not fulfilled? 

 

 

10 hours ago, Tudounaozi said:

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14 hours ago, Wildcat said:

 

And that character was a 63-year old man...

 

Good times.

 

Who owned 2 Nightclubs and  ran the biggest nightclubs on LSRP every Sunday 

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11 hours ago, Tudounaozi said:

 

You post actually scares me. This issue is underlooked and is I think this is potentially a LSRP killer. If LSRP falls, this may not be the main reason but must be one of the main reasons. I am scared, concerned and worried. 

 

EDIT: What I will say does not represent any factions or anybody. But I am told that my friends in those factions share the same thoughts but are hesitating to say it publicly, but I will say it.

 

I disagree with your reasoning of passive police roleplay. Passive police roleplay will only happen after police roleplayers had enough fun of the main stream RP, aka pursuits and shootouts. 

 

What is so fun about police? Shootout and pursuits. Now we axed pursuits. Many people will prove me wrong but, tell me why SEB / SWAT is always more than 50% of online LEO playerbase? Just check ts.ls-rp.com:9988 and you'll find the statistics. Somehow, LSRP thought having a pursuit line chasing a car with normal speed for hours is realistic so they axed most PITs, interceptions and boxing. Then they thought well, chasing for long is bad so supervisors will not terminate pursuits if it goes for too long for too tiny reasons. Is it fun? I do not find it fun. I avoid most of the pursuits, really. 

 

A shootout is basically a torture for anyone that's not directly firing or SWAT/SEB. A barricaded suspect requires police officers and deputy sheriffs to stand outside guarding and watching the screen and basically staring while SWAT/SEB go inside and roleplay. In worse scenarios, random player will come to you and ask you very repetitive questions or just drive pass it, ruining the immersion and giving you burdens. 

 

In terms of the reasoning of Investigative roleplay in shambles, I have a lot to say about it. Let's first talk about how does a Detective win. Based on my experience, I can conclude two ways of detective roleplays. One is script-win and another is collective-win. Script-win is you use the scripts to locate the suspect and apprehend the suspect, without needing the suspects' OOC cooperation. Collective-win is when the suspect roleplays with you, PMs you non-script evidence and leads to their own conviction. What is more demotivating when you write 2,000 words in your investigative report, you do everything perfectly but the suspect CKs, doesn't respond to you, voids the situation and whatsoever? 

 

Another topic I want to say is Play-to-Win mentality. If Anti Play-to-Win works, why our PD/SD plays Robber/Cop servers when free? Play-to-win is a good concept but we took it wrong. We are taking Play-to-Win to an extreme where we are basically "Playing to lose". From a PLAYERS' perspective, if the suspect breaks the rule, we /ff. If the suspect non-rp drives, we /ff. If the suspect fails to RP and whatsoever, we /ff. We have unlimited free guns and cars doesn't entitle us to /ff everytime. 

 

How are we expecting our people to do passive roleplays and be passionate about passive roleplays when the needs for aggressive and active are not fulfilled? 

 

 

 

I was in LEO RP from 2012 - 15, then 2016 again. Then I rejoined for COVID IN 2020, and rejoined lastly in 2024 as soon as the server started. I lasted a week before I resigned. 

 

LEO RP is not fun. Convoy simulator. Pyongyang Traffic Lady Simulator, but instead of directing traffic you're guarding a SWAT scene.   You can't BOX IN VEHICLES ANYMORE!! So silly. Can't do **Desc Playername** because apparently it's metagame and people don't understand that LS-RP is not real life, no wonder why nobody bothers investigating crimes anymore more it's too much hassle.  No one uses APB's anymore to look for suspects because if you can't **desc. whatts the point.  As a beat cop, what's the point of taking 911's.  Supervisory ranks all they can do is suspend now, can barely give out permission for exciting things. Can't equip MP5, M4 or shotgun without certification. Can't be given permission to use weapons like in the old days, can't take out tyres, taser limitation... bring back the stark industry tasers, /tackle is stupid.. bring back the Sultan for traffic units at least, try to have a bit of fun in a low number team speak situation and you'll get a shadow play video of yourself talking in your mailbox the next day no effort to even reach out to the person, oh yeah opportunity to do admin punishment lets go!! , bring back bait car situations.  

 

Please can we talk about the fucking PAPERWORK WORK! Dare you try to touch the rank of Sergeant, not only do you have to hit 1 ABS you have to do a bunch of paperwork that only increases over the ranks to prove your self.  It's too much work, ever time a new head it's like fuck it, I'm Sheriff of Chief now let's just add a bunch of BS to prove how different i can make things.  Oh because I do so much work, you all HAVE to to do as much as I do. No space for the casual but good RPer who wants to have fun. 

 

This leaves the people at the top making the decisions are the most dedicated, hardcore, committed,  try hard players, but they forget that the majority of people do not have that mentality most people just want to have fun and escape from real life, honestly I blame the American Contingent of top LEO players .. anyways What's the point of coming home from school / work log on and you've logged onto another job. Yeah some shit were unreasltic, but it made people log in everyday and created loads of new RP Sitations. Many LEO Rpers would leave LEO RP, try out illegal side of things and love it or maybe they'd run a nightclub or other avenue of legal roleplay. Transfer to DoC or FD. I even made and alt and had a blast with illegal RP. 

 

At least if TRU/SEB - SWAT hoovering up all the action was tolerable because you had other outlet of fun for everyone, but now what's the point unless you want to play standing simulator for 1 and a half hours. 

 

 

ITS JUST NOT FUN. Dare I say that because LEO Rpers are mostly the type who will be able to do a lot of paperwork, meaning they're mostly the type to apply for tester and admin giving them more influence on the server as they rank up. IDK i'm just a humble player.  

 

Give people the chance to have fun and it will allow their creative side to come out. that my POV. However, LEO RP will not improve too much group think, too much old face.  Maybe start doing a poll too see what the majority of people want? IDK 

 

 

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3 hours ago, CrashCorn said:

 

 

I was in LEO RP from 2012 - 15, then 2016 again. Then I rejoined for COVID IN 2020, and rejoined lastly in 2024 as soon as the server started. I lasted a week before I resigned. 

 

LEO RP is not fun. Convoy simulator. Pyongyang Traffic Lady Simulator, but instead of directing traffic you're guarding a SWAT scene.   You can't BOX IN VEHICLES ANYMORE!! So silly. Can't do **Desc Playername** because apparently it's metagame and people don't understand that LS-RP is not real life, no wonder why nobody bothers investigating crimes anymore more it's too much hassle.  No one uses APB's anymore to look for suspects because if you can't **desc. whatts the point.  As a beat cop, what's the point of taking 911's.  Supervisory ranks all they can do is suspend now, can barely give out permission for exciting things. Can't equip MP5, M4 or shotgun without certification. Can't be given permission to use weapons like in the old days, can't take out tyres, taser limitation... bring back the stark industry tasers, /tackle is stupid.. bring back the Sultan for traffic units at least, try to have a bit of fun in a low number team speak situation and you'll get a shadow play video of yourself talking in your mailbox the next day no effort to even reach out to the person, oh yeah opportunity to do admin punishment lets go!! , bring back bait car situations.  

 

Please can we talk about the fucking PAPERWORK WORK! Dare you try to touch the rank of Sergeant, not only do you have to hit 1 ABS you have to do a bunch of paperwork that only increases over the ranks to prove your self.  It's too much work, ever time a new head it's like fuck it, I'm Sheriff of Chief now let's just add a bunch of BS to prove how different i can make things.  Oh because I do so much work, you all HAVE to to do as much as I do. No space for the casual but good RPer who wants to have fun. 

 

This leaves the people at the top making the decisions are the most dedicated, hardcore, committed,  try hard players, but they forget that the majority of people do not have that mentality most people just want to have fun and escape from real life, honestly I blame the American Contingent of top LEO players .. anyways What's the point of coming home from school / work log on and you've logged onto another job. Yeah some shit were unreasltic, but it made people log in everyday and created loads of new RP Sitations. Many LEO Rpers would leave LEO RP, try out illegal side of things and love it or maybe they'd run a nightclub or other avenue of legal roleplay. Transfer to DoC or FD. I even made and alt and had a blast with illegal RP. 

 

At least if TRU/SEB - SWAT hoovering up all the action was tolerable because you had other outlet of fun for everyone, but now what's the point unless you want to play standing simulator for 1 and a half hours. 

 

 

ITS JUST NOT FUN. Dare I say that because LEO Rpers are mostly the type who will be able to do a lot of paperwork, meaning they're mostly the type to apply for tester and admin giving them more influence on the server as they rank up. IDK i'm just a humble player.  

 

Give people the chance to have fun and it will allow their creative side to come out. that my POV. However, LEO RP will not improve too much group think, too much old face.  Maybe start doing a poll too see what the majority of people want? IDK 

 

 

It all comes down to personal taste. What you might not find interesting or fund someone else might be okay dealing with because they enjoy the other aspects a great deal more and are willing to overlook the downsides. There are positive sides and negative sides to all roleplay. Certain types of roleplay attract certain types of people. That's how it is with everything in life.

 

I don't think deciding EVERYTHING via poll is the best option. Most times true democracies are not a good idea at scale because what the majority of people want might not actually be healthy for the server/community as a whole. However, the input from the player base should be heavily weighed over almost all other factors to a certain degree.

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7 hours ago, CrashCorn said:

 

 

 

Who owned 2 Nightclubs and  ran the biggest nightclubs on LSRP every Sunday 

 

Brother I have never owned a night club on this server and never will lmao. Even back then I detested the people who roleplayed socialites while holding commanding positions in legal factions.

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2 hours ago, Complaicant said:

It all comes down to personal taste. What you might not find interesting or fund someone else might be okay dealing with because they enjoy the other aspects a great deal more and are willing to overlook the downsides. There are positive sides and negative sides to all roleplay. Certain types of roleplay attract certain types of people. That's how it is with everything in life.

 

I don't think deciding EVERYTHING via poll is the best option. Most times true democracies are not a good idea at scale because what the majority of people want might not actually be healthy for the server/community as a whole. However, the input from the player base should be heavily weighed over almost all other factors to a certain degree.

 

League of Legends never do balance based on Diamond+ players, they do it based on Silver/Gold because that's the majority of people. 

 

We should not let that 2.5% tryhard to take the whole server with top realism, or 2.5% trolls to take the server done, where the 95% just suffers. Poll represents the player's will. Players are good at finding troubles but they are horrible at finding solutions. If the 95%'s taste is his taste, then what should we do? 

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Pay attention to time stamps upon logging in. 

 

Going to find a way to just record every time I am playing. I am so grateful that this has returned but as a long time RP'er I am already so over  LITERALLY spawning in and getting robbed as soon as I exit my interior in the most sub-par fashion. There needs to be some sort of robbery rule/protocol update a lot of noobs just driving around finding and robbing every person they find alone. 

 

Shoutout to Abubakar Shareef. 

 

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[21:03:56] Francis McWilde says: Get away from me night demon.
[21:03:58] [Mask 631555_65] says: I got money for you.
[21:04:01] [Mask 631555_65] says: The fuck?
[21:04:17] [Mask 631555_65] says: Aye, yo.
[21:04:21] Michael Ricci says: What?
[21:04:29] * [Mask 631555_65] flicks his chin up at Ricci and pulls up beside him.
[21:04:39] Michael Ricci says: Look I gotta be somewhere bro, whas' up?
[21:04:45] [Mask 631555_65] says: What's good, man? I got big bucks for you. I need some shit, you got me?
[21:04:49] [Mask 631555_65] says: I got all the bread in the world for you.
[21:04:55] Michael Ricci says: No. Do I look like a deal drugs?
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[21:05:42] [Mask 631555_65] says: Fucking MOVE.
[21:05:42] (( [31] Michael_Ricci: You robbers are disgusting I once again just spawned in and getting ro ... ))
[21:05:42] (( [31] Michael_Ricci: ... bbed within a minute ))
[21:05:49] (( [31] Michael_Ricci: like RP better lol ))
[21:05:49] [Mask 631555_65] says: Keep going.
[21:05:57] [Advertisement] [SELLING] Maxed out Stafford in mint condition! & [BUYING] Maxed out Hu ...
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[21:06:07] (( [31] Michael_Ricci: ID? ))
[21:06:11] * [Mask 631555_65] starts patting Ricci down for his items, searching for anything valuable.
[21:06:12] * [Mask 631555_65] performs a frisk on Michael Ricci.
[21:06:27] * [Mask 631555_65] locates some cash, taking as much of it as he can carry.
[21:06:29] (( [4] Abubakar_Shareef: pay. ))
[21:06:32] (( [4] Abubakar_Shareef: 5k is new rob limit btw ))
[21:06:33]    You have sent [Mask 631555_65], $3,689.
[21:06:33] * Michael Ricci takes out some cash, and hands it to [Mask 631555_65].
 

 

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1 hour ago, EGN said:

Business oriented responses shouldn't take more than 72 hours (business changes and licenses registration). This can be affecting the RP of some factions and the server in general.


I agree with this.

 

Now I understand that some people supposedly have lives outside of this game. I appreciate that there’s people who volunteered to do staff work during their free time without getting anything in return.

 

However, for a server that is actively trying to be an alternative and retain players, I think that we could definitely improve this aspect. The forum paperwork, whether it’s business or faction related, deserves more attention. 72h in my opinion, is an acceptable delay to deal with any application, especially since we’re in the early stages of the server.

 

I’ve had applications taking over a week to get just get a yes or a no. I know that staff analyze and talk over applications to share input, but the reality is that there are players and factions who end up being penalized.

 

Some players are going to go somewhere else if they are not provided with activity whether it’s business openings, company apps or anything drug/weapon related for the illegal side of the server.

 

I remember how W:LC went from 500 players to dying because of lack of player-owned businesses or an illegal trade market. We can only do passive roleplay so much. At some point, most players will get bored, especially with this new generation affected by short-span attention. Once you bring interest into new players, everything has to be made to retain some as much as possible. Give them activity and things to do so they don’t go back to where they came from.

 

Mapping is also another issue that can affect any server. A lot of players have great ideas but struggle to either find a mapper or pay for them. We all know nobody takes a business with a SA default interior seriously.

 

I suggested that we implement a company-based paycheck system for employees, where players can get paid a certain amount per week, after 15-20 hours of activity. This system works on the other server and I believe this can majorly boost legal/civilian roleplay. We can’t all be criminals, there must be regular people as well to have a proper balance. Ex. terrorized people who will spend in security to be safe.

 

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1 hour ago, EGN said:

Business oriented responses shouldn't take more than 72 hours (business changes and licenses registration). This can be affecting the RP of some factions and the server in general.

 

Your request requires it to pushed with an update, it's not something which can be added at a flick of a switch, not only that. You've only just completed it recently.

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4 minutes ago, izumi said:

 

Your request requires it to pushed with an update, it's not something which can be added at a flick of a switch, not only that. You've only just completed it recently.

 

Seems fair but other stuff is taking ages too.

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