[We're done.]

On 3/11/2023 at 6:31 PM, Kane said:

 

Continues to amaze me that people think you can just launch a whole new server with bare /me commands and expect a happy outcome when there are established servers out there that are completely the opposite. Did you survey the community to come to this conclusion? Would love to know how you think we're disconnected.

 

Also ... Selective reading to call the post a "lie"!

 

Nonetheless, hope you're there for launch!

I didn't mean literally only having /me, /do etc, but the community came from a largely text-command based system and would've been fine with simplified versions early on. You guys can clearly do some amazing things with gui's and create some beautiful features, and I can imagine that a decent amount of time has been spent on it. The disconnect comes from the idea that a sexy script will attract new members more than a well functioning community. Member retention should have been a number 1 priority, it's the best asset this project has. No one joined SAMP LS-RP because of it's dope script, they joined because the community instilled a heavy concentration on serious RP. The longer it takes to launch with little communication, the more players you'll lose. I understand that you guys are trying to appeal to new players from the GTA V community, but the best way to compete with other established servers is to have a better community. The disconnect is that for the last year the community been constantly let down and disrespected, seemingly because of a perfectionist approach to compete with already established GTA V RP servers. 

 

Don't get me wrong I get that this is a large project with a lot of complexities, but from an outsider it looks like too much focus has been put on making the server a similar or higher standard to the SAMP server was when it shut down. SAMP LSRP took years to build upon all those features, and before they were developed people were happy with simplified versions. 

 

And come on man, you can't say I'm selectively reading when you selectively omit that I was talking about the title of the thread. The post is true. But after like 7 months of no announcements you know what a post title saying "We're Done" implies. I get that you can argue that it's not a lie, but you can't say that the title of this post isn't deliberately misleading.

 

I hope I'm wrong and everything goes well.  And despite my concerns and frustrations I respect and appreciate the hard work going on behind the scenes. What's done is done, and I'm excited for the community to flourish in the GTA V scene. 

[We're done.]

Silly me seeing the post and actually thinking the server is done. Looks like you guys are actually further behind than people thought. 

 

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As much as all you really need to roleplay is a little more than /me, /do and IC chat; we're determined to start with a foundation that allows us to build the next big thing in the GTA V RP scene.

 

The foundation you're talking about is the community you've continually let down for a year now while continuing on a feature creep crusade. There's a complete disconnect if you think the community would have preferred extra features compared to a bare bones version that was released earlier. I can't imagine the benefit of new features would come anywhere close to the damage caused by the time delays and communication issues. Yet again you guys seem allergic to giving an apology or being honest, even the title of this post is a lie.

[July Update]

Food for thought: People joked about the August target being August 2023 instead of 2022, but at this point it's closer to August 2023 and would have been more accurate to say that was the case.

[July Update]

I'm done. The community is already dead and it's management is beyond incompetent. If this server is ever released I expect that everything will be handled with the same love and care as it has been for the last year. I hope that whoever ends up buying the script/community 3 months after release actually gives the community the respect it deserves. 

[July Update]

Still really bums me out that a release date was promised ~4 months ago, and so far the only confirmation we have is that it will not be released in September. Would it kill you guys to show some interest in updating the community? Yeah sure, technically you could argue that by "aiming for August" it means that no promises have been broken. But you guys know what you're doing, we know what you're doing, and it's just disrespectful. 

 

Delays really suck, but not nearly as much as seeing how little you guys give a shit about the community. Zero effort in the last year to improve communications, no apologies for anything, no real updates about the progress of the server for months on end. 

 

 

[July Update]

Nothing increases morale and confidence more than having to constantly check the forum and seeing that theres been basically zero communication and promises have once again been broken. 

 

I don't know what kind of feature creep issues you guys have going, but there's no way it's worth the damage that's already been caused. LSRP either lives or dies based on the community, a community that has been consistently disrespected and neglected. Maybe you're banking on the idea that there'll be a new and more substantial playerbase eventually after release, but that seems like a pretty lousy plan. LSRP was already filled with too many trolls before you closed the SAMP server, what do you think is going to happen when/if this rage MP server releases? It's going to start with a community filled with people that at worst don't respect the leadership/rules and at best resent the leadership and server. LSRP lives or dies based on the community, because if the server is filled with toxicity and blatant disregard for leadership and their rules it will only attract people who themselves are toxic and disregard the rules. If the only thing going for this community is a sexy script, then it's doomed to fail. I hope the server succeeds, I'll be playing ASAP when/if it's released, but it just hurts to see you guys knee cap yourselves so early and so unnecessarily.

[July Update]

25 minutes ago, skyrocket said:

Because they may aswell stop if it takes much longer, the script looks banging and it seems like 90% of the features are there. They are just dotting the I's and it is better for them to not release a concrete date, giving them more time incase they encounter more issues.

I pretty much agree with everything you've said, but that's not my issue. How can anyone justify this post as anything but disrespectful? Months of no updates until a release date was promised, only for them to yet again not deliver on it and act as if everything is normal. Theres the elephant in the room that there has been a complete breakdown in communication for months, and theres barely even an apology or anyone taking responsibility for it. The community has had so many promises broken since the SAMP server went down, not to mention the constant lying and deception that seems to be happening.

 

I truly wish the best for this community, I want it to thrive and become something similar to what the SAMP server was, but so far this has been such a shit show before it's even started. 

[July Update]

21 minutes ago, skyrocket said:

The release date is August.

 

I'm not trying to be petty or anything, but a release date was promised and instead we got an update saying they're aiming to release in August. I just don't understand why a release date was hyped up, only for one to not be released. It makes me think that it was originally intended that a release date was going to be confirmed, only for delays to make it not possible to confirm it. And instead of coming clean about yet again not being able to follow through on a promise, they act as if they have fulfilled their promise.  

 

At this point I'd be very surprised if an August release will happen. Why do you have confidence in an August release given the track record so far? Why are people acting as if this post is anything but another broken promise.

[July Update]

I don't see why almost everyone is responding positively to this post.  http://whendoeslsrpcomeout.com/ promised a release date today, and from this post it seems almost certain that a release date won't be posted until August at the soonest. The only consistency at the moment is that deadlines will not be met, why is stuff continuously being promised and then not delivered on? How are we meant to have any confidence when this shit just keeps on happening? It's a very bad look guys.