A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive

[Aloosh]

12 hours ago, Martin_Busato said:

I greatly appreciate the discussion so far and  understand morale is low right now but must say I do question the intentions behind some of the "LSRP SAMP is dead, stop beating a dead horse" type of comments. If that's your opinion, fine, but what are you doing here? I don't think anyone here believes we can return to the golden age of LSRP when it was regularly hitting 500+ players, but we can improve upon the current state of the server and make it a great place to roleplay once again. With the right leadership, vision, and teamwork, we can make a new golden age that looks a little different, albeit on a smaller scale. It is possible, but the negative, defeatist, apathetic mindset I'm seeing in some of these posts doesn't help the cause.

 

Well said. The staff team has been harbouring a bunch of people with that same silly mentality. Whenever multiple staff members voiced their concerns about SA-MP and its current state in staff chat, they’d get gangbanged by the same group of friends over and over again. Nothing constructive, just constantly shitting on you.

Let me give you an example (THIS IS FROM MAIN CHAT, DON’T BAN ME).

 

How can you expect a staff member, or those who are here for SA-MP, to stay for the long run when, first, you’ve been neglecting the community, second, you go MIA and show no support, and third, you have people on the team who are constantly bashing the platform.

These same people who have been bashing the platform that some of us still love have gone untouched. They haven’t been addressed, and it’s been ongoing for months now. It’s a divide that management has supported because they themselves are part of the neglect we’re experiencing.

Stop saying SA:MP is dead when you’re not even trying to fix it. Be part of the solution, or shut your mouth and wait for your so called GTA V server to show up.

 

Edit: Also, can someone tell us why Kev’s reply was removed?

Edited 2 hours ago by Aloosh

[Michael_Dippolito]

It is very disappointing and disheartening to see that @Kev’s response was removed. 

[Clack]

@jack The removal of Kev's comment is a prime example of what's wrong with these type of discussions. I know you personally haven't removed it (I certainly hope so) however that only shows to the rest of the community that you cannot even reason with staff members properly.

 

He gave out valid points and majority of it came from his experience as IFC/Tester. If he is not fit to share his POV, we might as well lock this thread.

[Kev]

Looks like someone with a brain made it visible again. Thank you.

 

Let's now keep this thread on topic and wait for management to address our concerns.

 

edit: For some reason the part in my post about LSRP not having a functioning anti cheat was removed by an admin.

 

Everyone is aware of this already so could someone please tell me why this was edited out?

Edited 2 hours ago by Kev

[Maxolino]

Just by hiding Kev’s post to make sure there’s nothing too harsh being said about the managment or the server’s state says a lot. Instead of putting that energy into fixing what is clearly broken, we are unfortunately dealing with control issues and fragile egos. 

 

If we take the last thread into consideration as well, there is about 12 pages worth of communities’ concern on what is going to happen next. That alone should be enough to show that there is something seriously wrong. Managment, I’m not sure if it’s clear but it is the community that shapes the server, and what you are doing right now is just spreading trust issues across your players. People might be “heard”, but you are still hushing them down, quietly filtering what you want to hear or just outright delete the post, and yet there’s still no plan being show on how things are going to improve. 

 

The ship is sinking.

Edited 7 minutes ago by Maxolino

[badhbh]

3 minutes ago, Maxolino said:

Just by hiding Kev’s post to make sure there’s nothing too harsh being said about the managment or the server’s state says a lot. Instead of putting that energy into fixing what is clearly broken, we are unfortunately dealing with control issues and fragile egos. 

 

If we take the last thread into consideration as well, there is about 12 pages worth of communities’ concern on what is going to happen next. That alone should be enough to show that there is something seriously wrong. Managment, I’m not sure if it’s clear but it is the community that shapes the server, and what you are doing right now is just spreading trust issues across your players. People might be “heard”, but you are still hushing them down, quietly filtering what you want to hear or just outright delete the post, and yet there’s still no plan being show on how things are going yo improve. 

 

The ship is sinking.

Part of what he said could be viewed as encouraging hacking, so it was hidden. One sentence regarding hacking was removed and the post restored. 

I've spoken to Kev directly about what exactly was removed, and he agreed that it may have come across incorrectly and we moved on. 
There was nothing removed about management, or his thoughts on the server/staff or management team.