A VISION FOR THE FUTURE

[Cake]

On 11/18/2024 at 12:53 AM, fruit said:

• There are so many unique businesses still on the server. Why not auction them if they're not being actively used? For example, Waterpark, Aquapark, Los Santos Forum, Visage.
• Introduce ready-made unique businesses on auction, rather than putting clubs / bars on auctions. This means putting already furnished businesses on auctions. For example, there should be clothing stores, go-karting arenas, motocross arenas, theatres, comedy clubs, gyms, mechanic garages, museums, art galleries, betting shops, office spaces, ice-cream shop, paintball arena, gun ranges, country clubs, music studios, escape rooms, news agencies etc.

@Caledonite

 

On 11/18/2024 at 12:53 AM, fruit said:

Though the developers have made HUGE improvements, the introduced updates are mostly support features that help elevate existing features, rather than being new features on their own. Although I'm not imaginative enough to think of anything new that can be added at the moment, I'm sure introducing new jobs and scripts that are not just geared for newer players (like farming, trucking, taxi) but also for seasoned players will be a huge help.

 

I have some jobs coming for both legal and illegals, the thief job will make a return soon, and I've also added a new legal job where players will need to respond to fallen trees and rocks blocking roads etc. This also enhances a trucker's experience, having to stop and roleplay with a fallen tree or simply navigate around it.

Edited November 19, 2024 by Cake

[Sfaccimma]

Not only a couple of admins at peak time but some aren't even around at all. We have been waiting since JULY for a faction complex. We filled the correct apps, reached out to everyone from different teams and our faction leader a month ago or so got told to get off his high horse after reaching out to @badhbh. Not to mention (and yes I am going to name and shame because it has becomes ridiculous now) that out factions complex app has been left on NOT READ since July from both @Spectre & @badhbh.

 

When they got told on discord they replied saying missed our PM, but despite us bumping that PM over the months and reaching out via discord and joining the IFT Channel. Nothing is moving and the waiting carries on lol ridiculous

Edited November 19, 2024 by Sfaccimma
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[izumi]

1 hour ago, Sfaccimma said:

Not only a couple of admins at peak time but some aren't even around at all. We have been waiting since JULY for a faction complex. We filled the correct apps, reached out to everyone from different teams and our faction leader a month ago or so got told to get off his high horse after reaching out to @badhbh. Not to mention (and yes I am going to name and shame because it has becomes ridiculous now) that out factions complex app has been left on NOT READ since July from both @Spectre & @badhbh.

 

When they got told on discord they replied saying missed our PM, but despite us bumping that PM over the months and reaching out via discord and joining the IFT Channel. Nothing is moving and the waiting carries on lol ridiculous

 I’ll chase it up for you. 

[tracksuithitman]

The last major thing to happen around factions was the closure of Nakahara-Kai and that wasn't even an effort by IFT/FTC, it was a result of them being told they were under review and a shit faction, which led to 1x1/Ligzonton/Musashi throwing a hissy fit, followed by Joey's 'woe is me' post blaming the same people that had given them second (and third) chances despite constant outcry from the majority of the team.

 

Schemes and FTP have recently been given new heads, which overall means little to nothing and has no effect on the server. Some admins are still showing that they're incapable of simple reading comprehension, a skill that is taught from the age of 6, given that they still cannot follow rules and limits set out by myself and still enforced by Klag. 

 

Inactive official factions are being reviewed, but what will come from it? It's yet to be seen at the end of this month, but I will outright give credit to @Flip for being the driving force at the minute, despite countless roadblocks and speed bumps that are put in the way. 

 

Filthy Bastards Motorcycle Club is still showing poor activity (and roleplay), having only revived their activity briefly after being provoked in-character; once this subsided they were once again nowhere to be seen, save for 2 or 3 members who's content and standards are questionable at the very least.

 

We've got Blanco Longorio, the pushers of the party drug - fentanyl (yes, that's something that was said). Poor numbers and very seriously lacking in providing roleplay other than the bare minimum that we'd expect. What seemed like a pioneering faction in the beginning has only proven to be a facade. Perhaps it was only due to Faugh A Ballagh that they were ever thriving at all.

 

The Galleani Crime Family continues to show us how not to do LCN roleplay correctly and does so with the same 3-4 faces, with the only consistent roleplayer being @HOOD POPE / Donald Sacco. 

 

Mob Piru also fails to hit standards that we should expect from a numbers standpoint. The roleplay that we've seen in the past has been stellar, but the activity struggles have been going on for far too long. The argument that street gangs are tough to maintain in the current climate can easily be negated when we look at the activity comparison with BMF and EHC.

 

Meanwhile, FTC cannot even get together to have a meeting to make things that have already been decided on happen - if the majority has agreed on something then a voice call should not be needed, especially when there is a clear incapability to make a voice call (a follow up at best) happen. 

 

And this block of text only touches on half of the issues around illegal factions. 

[imu_pertrauka]

1. Again, I did not read but one post though what I've meant was not legal roleplay or trucking jobs or roleplaying a lawyer. Probably misworded my last post and also it's a complex thing to explain. Legal RP will not bring up the player base to 500/500 (although not a bad idea to keep it mind) and I'm not saying Management should start closing illegal factions and stop the gun trafficking or something. For example, playing GTA V is more immersive experience - feels more like a real life experience. Joining SA-MP server feels a bit less like that because running around in an older game is somewhat funny and not that realistic. And I'm not saying people should roleplay drinking water every 2 hours or so for the server to feel realistic. Quality of the whole narrative that's being played out here matters a lot. Giving you another example - playing GTA V is more fun because the narrative is kinda shaping into something new and it feels fresh. SO... I don't know if it's possible to replicate the GTA V feeling in the SA-MP server but also I'm not saying it's bad. The server is great bro! I love this platform to express my creativity and would love it for it to improve and maybe I would be playing this when I'm much older?

 

2. Reaching official status for your faction and getting drug/gun supply is great - don't get me wrong. Although (and this is my own personal opinion), I'm more of a make it In Game and less of a scripted roleplayer. If it's fun it's not wasted time, right? Right now you can not get a lot of quality interactions if you're not in a faction or some sort of a face here. No one goes off a vibe - majority of the players goes In Game when someone messages the "We IG" on Discord. And back in the day where there was no Discord you was forced to be online not to miss the action if you was dedicated to join any faction or get to know anyone. Also mall these days is empty? What's up with that bro? All of this entices with my last post saying I should be able to stand in one spot and be happy bout it.

[tracksuithitman]

The whole "when we didn't have Discord we had to be IG" is a crock of shite. Before Discord we used Skype and before that we used mIRC where group chats and dedicated channels akin to Discord servers were most definitely a thing - OOC communication and instant messaging platforms have been a thing since the server began.

 

Nobody cares about the mall. Nothing good ever came from it or the people that hung about there.

Edited November 19, 2024 by tracksuithitman

[Cake]

Can we chill with calling people shit at roleplaying and the shitty attitude that is building up? Thanks.

[tracksuithitman]

8 minutes ago, Cake said:

Can we chill with calling people shit at roleplaying and the shitty attitude that is building up? Thanks.

Not once have I said anybody is "shit at roleplaying", I have said standards are poor or lacking. What I said about Nakahara-Kai could be seen as a quote, as that's what I told them - "your faction is shit" and "IFT have been reviewing you for closure since the first time". This led to them closing and thus me saving IFT/FTC the trouble of jumping through tiresome hoops that only made things more difficult than they needed to be.

[imu_pertrauka]

Let me tell you this - I'm not saying Discord is bad or people back in the day were communicating only In Game. What I've meant was - you should be able to play here without no OOC "connections" or needing to be on Discord. All I'm saying back then was a way better situation than it is right now. The situation right now is you can not roleplay anything besides having friends on Discord or joining a faction. All you can do right now is buy some drugs off a corner and roleplay using it. That's pretty much it. And I'm not saying having friends is bad 😄 Don't get me wrong - having fun with your friends is very important. People are not willing to join the server or put in hours developing their character because there's no point. Majority of the things happens on Discord nowadays and there's pretty much nothing to do - collect paychecks? No one in their right mind is gonna truck - people are playing SA-MP because of the style it gives. Back in the day trucking was a thing because majority of the players were young and was having fun playing SA-MP. You're not going to get people going in 2024/2025 if my character needs to truck or stand around corners to start off anything. I'm hoping for more sophisticated experience because "if it's fun - it's time well spent" really does not do it for me. 🙂

[fruit]

Nobody said a thing about bringing the mallrats back.

 

As evident by the toxicity and elitism by the illegal roleplayers on this thread, the management can do better than trying to appease a section of the playerbase that will continue to whine regardless of how much things improve in their favor. It's always a "us vs them" mentality for this section.

 

Chasing this utopia of everybody being an elite roleplayer and having a 1:1 representation of the real-world is what brought the server to a 100-150 playerbase. What do you expect by publicly shitting on factions and their roleplaying standards? There's a point where criticism crosses the line of downright hatred, and nobody wants to play on a server where the loudest voices are the ones which constantly shit on other people and portray themselves as the bar that everyone MUST strive to be. It's a mindset that's teetering on psychopathy and I doubt anybody wants to play in an environment as negative as we're currently headed towards.

 

Though I agree that there are some factions whose roleplay is far superior than others, I don't understand how some people expect these "inferior" factions to improve by shitting on them. It's not like they didn't spend countless hours trying to build up a faction just like you did.

[tracksuithitman]

The argument of having nothing to do without OOC connections has been made for over a decade. That is not the problem.

[imu_pertrauka]

If the argument persists for a decade it is definitely a problem. I'm not going to join anyone's Discord and it does not matter how long they are roleplaying. The more players running around with bats in Idlewood the better for everyone. Mall was awesome times...

[tracksuithitman]

1 minute ago, fruit said:

Nobody said a thing about bringing the mallrats back.

 

As evident by the toxicity and elitism by the illegal roleplayers on this thread, the management can do better than trying to appease a section of the playerbase that will continue to whine regardless of how much things improve in their favor. It's always a "us vs them" mentality for this section.

 

Chasing this utopia of everybody being an elite roleplayer and having a 1:1 representation of the real-world is what brought the server to a 100-150 playerbase. What do you expect by publicly shitting on factions and their roleplaying standards? There's a point where criticism crosses the line of downright hatred, and nobody wants to play on a server where the loudest voices are the ones which constantly shit on other people and portray themselves as the bar that everyone MUST strive to be. It's a mindset that's teetering on psychopathy and I doubt anybody wants to play in an environment as negative as we're currently headed towards.

 

Though I agree that there are some factions whose roleplay is far superior than others, I don't understand how some people expect these "inferior" factions to improve by shitting on them. It's not like they didn't spend countless hours trying to build up a faction just like you did.

3 of those factions have been given ample opportunity to improve and have not done. Nobody's looking to get anything to go in their favour, but I'd rather see the server represented by factions that appease to the "heavy roleplay" aspect of the server. Solid and consistent members of the community have left because of the state of the server in terms of roleplay and a lack of effort from the staff team as a culminated effort.

 

There is a reason why these factions are currently under review by FTC and that is because they are not meeting standards set out by the server. Expectations and requirements of official factions can be publicly accessed through the information sub-forum within the factions forum. 

 

We shouldn't allow standards to drop because of a playerbase decline - mass amounts have already quit due to standards not being the same and no amount of development, mapping or scripting will make up for a drop in standards. It is a kick in the teeth to unofficial factions, past and present who uphold standards when subpar displays are being rewarded with official status that serves only as bragging rights for some groups.

 

There are many, many things that you have evidently not read into throughout the 12 pages on this topic, where things that are in fact not publicly accessible have been touched on. This can not be helped, but please do not pin the label of "elitism" on people who simply want to see the server live up to what it was and what it currently labels itself as, which is a "heavy roleplay server". Realism and heavy roleplay go hand in hand.

[tracksuithitman]

2 minutes ago, imu_pertrauka said:

If the argument persists for a decade it is definitely a problem. I'm not going to join anyone's Discord and it does not matter how long they are roleplaying. The more players running around with bats in Idlewood the better for everyone. Mall was awesome times...

You don't need to join a Discord to get in with crowds. The factions that publicly advertise having Discords and requiring you to join are simply not worth interacting with, but that is the minority and not the majority.

[mckenna]

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