ban pedophilia rp from the server??

[Lil Enemie]

4 minutes ago, holaa. said:

banning pedophilia is not restricting roleplay its called being normal, go play  genshin impact 

Lets not get hostile lol, this is a conversation in general discussions, and this is a roleplay server, not a safe space for snowflakes.

 

3 minutes ago, Dann2000 said:

okay.. i'm scared now, what else you gonna say, allow erp with k9?

Lol

 

2 minutes ago, IdleStacks said:

I can definitely see your point in trying not to restrict anything but I can't see anything positive coming from allowing pedo RP. It's an incredibly sensitive topic for very good reasons. It doesn't benefit the server, much to the contrary, it opens it up to media attention (you never know when a bored "journalist" is around) and attracts the lowest of the low onto the server. Not to mention you have to legit be a weirdo IRL to want to RP that. And again, I have to mention that LSRP already has a somewhat unfortunate past with nonces. There's no positive and a whole lot of negatives. Plus it's just morally wrong.

I'm not really talking about pedo RP, I dislike pedo rp, I had some weird interactions with a player on the old LSRP who partook in pedo rp, when i mocked him IC, he started arguing with me OOC about why his rp is so good, idrc if its banned, but everything else should stay as it is. I also think you're reading too deep into it, the rules have been as they are for 10 years now as I said and we've recieved no 'media attention' or bored journalists writing about the server.

 

3 minutes ago, LeNova said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, it sounds like you think this kind of roleplay is perfectly fine to do so. I understand that you keep in your mind the fact these rules were back in LSRP already. However, give us a couple of standpoints why it's perfectly normal to roleplay such things, making a story together/reading a story together about such things for enjoyment I find rather very weird and sus.

 

I don't partake in pedo RP so I couldn't really tell you that it's normal, in my opinion it's weird., what I do know though is that once one rule is changed, people wanna change every other rule aswell, which is why I'm against restricting RP in this way. Things should be left as close to how they are as possible.

[LeNova]

1 minute ago, Jerome said:

No form of rape, pedophilia or child pornography should be allowed under any circumstance imo.

Necrophilia, bestiality is also really just a big no for me, what are the damn benefits for it? Yeah no...

[LeNova]

Just now, Lil Enemie said:

I don't partake in pedo RP so I couldn't really tell you that it's normal, in my opinion it's weird., what I do know though is that once one rule is changed, people wanna change every other rule aswell, which is why I'm against restricting RP in this way. Things should be left as close to how they are as possible.

 

I'm not sure if you're trolling at this point or not. So you're saying because some people might want other rules to be changed which btw doesn't mean they will change at all but that is your reason to keep such RP allowed? Okay? 

[Lil Enemie]

1 minute ago, LeNova said:

 

I'm not sure if you're trolling at this point or not. So you're saying because some people might want other rules to be changed which btw doesn't mean they will change at all but that is your reason to keep such RP allowed? Okay? 

Nah I'm not trolling, I just believe that the rules should stay how they are with minimal changes.

[IdleStacks]

Just now, Lil Enemie said:

I'm not really talking about pedo RP, I dislike pedo rp, I had some weird interactions with a player on the old LSRP who partook in pedo rp, when i mocked him IC, he started arguing with me OOC about why his rp is so good, idrc if its banned, but everything else should stay as it is. I also think you're reading too deep into it, the rules have been as they are for 10 years now as I said and we've recieved no 'media attention' or bored journalists writing about the server.

 

Again I have to say I 100% understand what you're trying to say. Slippery slopes are real, obviously, but in my opinion this is one of the few topics that's best left behind a locked door and completely inaccessible. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. GTA V isn't SAMP - SAMP was incredibly obscure compared to online GTA especially with the boom of voice "rp" servers.

 

All the other shit you need OOC perms is almost equally weird to want to roleplay but pedo shit is really on a completely different level. Again, especially consider the fact that krisk was an admin here once.

 

[LeNova]

2 minutes ago, Lil Enemie said:

Nah I'm not trolling, I just believe that the rules should stay how they are with minimal changes.

I don't think your reasoning to keep allowing such roleplay just because it might make people want to change more rules isn't a valid point.

It's simple to change the rule and not change others. Give me at least one decent reason why this roleplay should be allowed.

 

Because what you are saying right now is basically I don't think this should be roleplayed but lets not ban it because people might complain to change more rules.

Ignorance is bliss? I don't see the logic in that.

Edited February 12, 2022 by LeNova

[holaa.]

6 minutes ago, Lil Enemie said:

Lets not get hostile lol, this is a conversation in general discussions, and this is a roleplay server, not a safe space for snowflakes.

 

Lol

 

I'm not really talking about pedo RP, I dislike pedo rp, I had some weird interactions with a player on the old LSRP who partook in pedo rp, when i mocked him IC, he started arguing with me OOC about why his rp is so good, idrc if its banned, but everything else should stay as it is. I also think you're reading too deep into it, the rules have been as they are for 10 years now as I said and we've recieved no 'media attention' or bored journalists writing about the server.

 

 

I don't partake in pedo RP so I couldn't really tell you that it's normal, in my opinion it's weird., what I do know though is that once one rule is changed, people wanna change every other rule aswell, which is why I'm against restricting RP in this way. Things should be left as close to how they are as possible.

 

My guy I'm not sure people who are against pedophilia should be considered snowflakes it's wrong in every way even if its on a roleplay server, there are some things worth restricting this one being it

[SweetCupcake]

In my honest opinion, I believe that seven of the eight items listed should be removed from the list where such rps are accepted in case there is OOC permission from the victim and this means, they should be banned indefinitely and with no option to role play such barbarities. Those who promote such actions happily, I assume, they aren't in a good mental state.

Edited February 12, 2022 by SweetCupcake

[mattmocz]

I agree that anything regarded to pedophilia or child pornography should be banned.

[Lil Enemie]

6 minutes ago, LeNova said:

I don't think your reasoning to keep allowing such roleplay just because it might make people want to change more rules isn't a valid point.

It's simple to change the rule and not change others. Give me at least one decent reason why this roleplay should be allowed.

 

Because what you are saying right now is basically I don't think this should be roleplayed but lets not ban it because people might complain to change more rules.

Ignorance is bliss? I don't see the logic in that.

First of all, not once did I say pedo RP should be allowed, i've already voiced my dislike for that kind of RP, the point I'm making is that pedo RP and anything to do with child porn should be banned but nothing else should be changed. You've simply either misconstrued what I was trying to get at, or you're twisting my words.

 

10 minutes ago, IdleStacks said:

Again I have to say I 100% understand what you're trying to say. Slippery slopes are real, obviously, but in my opinion this is one of the few topics that's best left behind a locked door and completely inaccessible. Nothing to gain, everything to lose. GTA V isn't SAMP - SAMP was incredibly obscure compared to online GTA especially with the boom of voice "rp" servers.

I hear what you're saying, but I highly doubt that anything will happen in regards to media attention on the server.

 

11 minutes ago, IdleStacks said:

All the other shit you need OOC perms is almost equally weird to want to roleplay but pedo shit is really on a completely different level. Again, especially consider the fact that krisk was an admin here once.

Agreed, but unlike pedo RP, some (not all) of the other things you'd need OOC permission for (sexual harassment, rape, torture, dismemberment) very much still exist in the realm of criminality and shouldn't be restricted because things like that can sometimes add on to character development if two players consent to a scene that involves them. Nonce RP and anything to do with sexualizing child characters should be banned outright though for the reasons I've already mentioned.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LeNova]

4 minutes ago, Lil Enemie said:

First of all, not once did I say pedo RP should be allowed, i've already voiced my dislike for that kind of RP, the point I'm making is that pedo RP and anything to do with child porn should be banned but nothing else should be changed. You've simply either misconstrued what I was trying to get at, or you're twisting my words.

Are you sure?
 

1 hour ago, Lil Enemie said:

In my opinion nothing should be restricted further than it already is. These rules have existed on LSRP since the start of the server and in my opinion we shouldn't become like GTA:W and restrict roleplay. If two or more players consent to a certain scene and they're behind closed doors, let them do it.

 

It's fine if you want to tell us that we changed your opinion about it over time.

Edited February 12, 2022 by LeNova

[La Tweaker]

4 minutes ago, LeNova said:

Are you sure?
 

 

It's fine if you want to tell us that we changed your opinion about it over time.

From the same reply.

 

'IDRC if its banned, but everything else should stay as it is' has been their entire point from the beginning if I'm not mistaken.

Edited February 12, 2022 by La Tweaker

[LeNova]

7 minutes ago, La Tweaker said:

From the same reply.

 

'IDRC if its banned, but everything else should stay as it is' has been their entire point from the beginning if I'm not mistaken.

 

I want to give them the benefits of the doubts but their first comment(s) are clearly stating and them saying to not change ANY rule nor the pedo roleplay rule.

I don't see what I gain from twisting their words, I simply pointed out what they said and asked them about it.

Edited February 12, 2022 by LeNova

[Terrify]

 

 

 

 

[Doug Dimmadome]

43 minutes ago, LeNova said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but, it sounds like you think this kind of roleplay is perfectly fine to do so.

 

Yes.