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I do think it’s a bit of a culture thing. I’ve been in the PD for about half a year now, and from what I’ve seen, if we are in a pursuit, we will usually RP any collision—as long as the suspect being chased RPs it too. A lot of the time, however, the suspect just takes off and continues the chase instead of RPing the collision. It doesn’t even have to be a collision involving the PD. Many times, if we’re chasing someone, they’ll crash head-on into a wall, into traffic, or something else—collisions that should clearly be RPed. However, they just drive off, which I think is bad. Of course, a report should be made and people should be held accountable, but I think more often now the preference is: “Okay, you broke this rule, so we’ll break it too or do something else instead of reporting,” which isn’t great. If we’re talking about pursuits where suspects—or even PD officers—crash heavily into walls, innocent bystanders, or traffic, then yes, I absolutely agree these should always be RPed. I don’t really think there’s an excuse not to. You’re driving: if you make a mistake, even in a chase, you should drop out of that chase and RP the consequences of your driving. Personally, I always try to do this. Even if I’m far from the pursuit and crash head-on into an indestructible pole, I’ll drop out and RP it. This is just the basics of what the server is for, RP and everyone has to uphold a basic RP standard of this. Even yesterday, I was patrolling, SD was chasing somebody and their suspect head-on absolutely smashed my car, dragging it across the street. I stopped to RP it, I was not even involved in the chase as it was SD's chase. Did the suspect stop and RP it? No, he did not hesitate for a second to keep speeding away. I didn't report, nor did they, but maybe it should have been to hold people accountable. There have been a number of communications made towards us in the PD regarding realistic driving and RPing these situations. Personally, I haven’t seen anyone crashing into civilians and driving off. Of course, I’m only one person, so I can’t see everything, and I can’t comment on how common it really is. I think the best solution is simply to report and hold people accountable. I haven’t seen many reports about this recently, and if it is happening often, there should definitely be more reports on it.

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That's not my problem if you invested so much time. My stance is clear.

Clearly you've never joined the LEO faction before. You don't understand how much work and effort someone has to put in before joining the LSSD. They're regular players and they're prone to mistakes. Discharging them for not being perfect is silly especially given how much time they've dedicated.

I have even watched PD/SD perform some sub-par RP with gangs in Idlewood and I sent a PM to let them know how sub-par it is and they respond by taking my PM IC'ly and deploy multiple units to pull me over even though I've done literally nothing IC'ly. Just so they have an excuse to stop and frisk me to try and find shit on me, all to abruptly end it to do it to another party of players. It is pitiful. Nowadays law enforcement will pull you over because your head lights aren't on in the day time. Which makes no sense, all to be attempt to search you.

Henlo, I don't have any personal agenda, but I did have bad experience with two people from LSSD, not saying them in general. Back in March, long story short, I parked my vehicle in Corona Train Track and two SD showed up behind my veh n turned their siren on without saying anything for like 5 mins straight, and dip like nothing happened. And that time, I was pretty sure they were metagaming my nametag. What did I do? I made a complaint on their website. Well, in my innocent mind thought it would work if I made complaint on their website. I was hoping that I would atleast get some response from the higher-ranks. Well, I was wrong, nothing happened since March 25 til this thread up. Reporting them is not gonna change anything, they might get punished but they'll still remain in the department. For the context :

Come on Sneaky, it's OK because they enjoyed it and they made a good yt video out of it! I stopped playing two weeks ago. Here is what I despise about this thread and it's replies, especially @badhbh's reply: 1. Pointing fingers at PD/SD. 2. Blaming PD/SD for the current server standards. 3. Relying on PD/SD to set the server standards. I was playing peacefully a year ago and it was way better than it is right now. This is someone who did parole roleplay which mostly did not involve law enforcing, unlike PD/SD. I do not understand how hard is it for Management to grasp what Sneaky said above?! Yeah, and I can say that I have 100% witnessed this server's management ruin legal roleplayer's motivation to even get on the server, not just RP. The players aren't to be blamed, legal, illegal, or even an admin. The blame entirely goes to management. I miss @ImperiumXVII

you mind sharing how the person responsible was handled, if they were at all? I'm not saying banning players will fix this (because we will be left without any players) and I'm not trying to make it about administrators BUT this behavior was non-existent in the past. Perhaps the administrators have been more easy-going with such players? There is more to this than LEO faction / illegal faction. And I agree with you, removing PD or SD will not change a thing. Multiple factors have contributed to this and the biggest of them all is that we're playing a SAMP server. I'll take the trolls and dmers any day if it means the community stays active because we've all seen how "quality over quanity" works out in the long run. The server doesn't have to be super hardcore, it's a game, just some parts that needs to be tightened up nothing else.

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The problem isn’t individual players, the problem is the general atmosphere of the entire server as a whole. following up on multitude of the comments here, I’ve personally tried to report several times with no good outcomes, for example 2 males armed with m4s came outta nowhere and decided to air out 7 deputies more or less on the spot just like that, when reports were casted the attack was ruled “justifiable” since the two males were apparently “helping” a male we had stopped. Regardless of administrative POV, allowing two randoms to just rail down 7 deputies with zero fear as if there’s zero consequence is not optimal. The endorsement if said attitude and not punishing it is what made players comfortable with killing cops like its nothing which results in majority of the subpar interactions we face today as PD/SD. And the situation i mentioned was only an example of what happens on a daily basis with bare consequences. Harsher repercussions are crucial for all parties. If the community believes LEOs went subpar for no apparent reason, well that was only an example of what we go through on a daily basis, this is also why not everything is reported, not all LEO rpers are going in game to spam ss and forum reports, they go in game to enjoy the game just like everyone else does, especially when reports aren’t met with expected outcomes that preserves an uphill motion towards a better par of roleplay. The issue is not PD/SD, the issue is serverwide. Raising the roof of what we believe is “heavy RP” is the solution i see for the issues addressed. Harsher punishments will eventually prompt a better flow of players, mentality, attitude, and much more.

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This concept is based off of the real life 53 AGC and we intend on mirroring the bone image based off of the concept. We have a particular recruitment vetting process in which new members who wish to join will have to meet the faction's high standards as well as their OOC behavior will be closely evaluated before leadership invites new members into the faction script. Shoot @V Lifestyle, @Movin Groovin Suwoopin or @pshakh a message and we will get back to you in a timely manner. Any questions, concerns and/or suggestions relating faction matters can also be forwarded to us.

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