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Gay dork admins working overtime to remove and censor everything get a life

Who's at fault for this current state? The answer is fiddy-fiddy. 50% players fault 50% staffs fault When LSRP reopened the interest was very clearly there. We all wanted one last ride. It wasn't long before the mistakes of the past from both the community as well as staff started to resurface. The golden age of LSRP where everyone shat on everyone was still present. We all collectively brought the server to this state and blaming the staff alone is hypocrisy. The ship hasn't sunk yet and there's no guarantee it's salvageable at this point but it's worth a shot. I agree with Busato that a change at the top is required. However I do not think we should vote for one person to take over the reins and hope for the best. Whenever 1 person ran the entire community, sooner or later we always end up in this exact spot. I think all members of staff should collectively run and decide everything, and the community should vote for the members of staff instead. Further more, I also think we need to completely get rid of admin ranks in order for this to work. I also think all members of staff need to be paid. How little of much it doesn't matter. Simplify the system. Lose having to go on the forums to apply for everything. Allow players to start companies instantly in game. Allow players to instantly lease businesses wherever they want. Helicopter money to anyone creating RP around these 2 systems. Kill LSRP V entirely. The chances of it succeeding are lesser than the chances of SAMP staying alive at this point. World owns GTA V. Come to terms with this reality and try to salvage what remains. Lastly, and most importantly: FUCK KRISK FUCK KIRIL SOKOLOV FREE SHARIF REYNOLDS FREE RIVA FREE ASESINO FREE DAMIANC UP BAHDBH AND RYE FUCK GTA WORLD

this goes crazy 🔥

I shit on Valenti a lot because it's fun, and troll on here but in all honesty, you done fucked up people The simple fact that you banned almost all of the decent players (there's good factions around, but obviously cannot hold up this server) because of idiotic reasons and as a staff, could not take accountability to the fact that you had a shit management is the problem. And this problem won't change. When I had my faction running at the start of the SAMP revamp (say what you want about our quality of rp, your thoughts, etc, I don't give fuck. Simply correlating my point in a generic sense) we were actively role playing and contributing. How df does it take the staff team (at the time) 3 OOC months to approve business requests, and then another 2-3 months to even consider our strawmen requests and schemes which were ultimately shot down. This staff team has alienated this community to the point of mediocrity and complete failure. Wanna see the PB boom and have maybe one small sliver of hope? 1. Unban everyone and begin accepting applications without holding a gun to their heads. 2. Enforce strict rules, and discipline as necessary to ensure a seamless transition of an increased PB. 3. Process any and all applications in no more than a 2 week review period (if as a staff you're overworked, then figure it out. That's literally your position). 4. Drop LSRPV, either ride this shit out to the fullest or focus on 1 thing at a time. You will never be successful managing 1 failing server and trying to develop another failure. This is common sense and the fact that you continue to think it'll work is crazy. 5. Use Reddit, Steam, and Discord for mass advertising. Youtube and all that other shit doesn't work, and is labor intensive. If you make short reels of engaging rp, it'll entice players and bring back old ones. 6. Someone said it, but remove @Mmartin and replace his ass with someone who gives a fuck, and can explain where LSRP's money went all these years. He's dead weight, once you can come to terms with this then can a new kingpin drown the community's thirst for intense role play. I guarantee you if I was unbanned (not that I care to be at this point, but I guess I still give a shit about this community because of nostalgia) I can bring 6-7 players with me. There are other banned players I know who can do the same. It's really not a hard concept.

this hard asf

LSRP has developed the SAMP server to the point that there's just simply nothing else to do, and even if there was, there's not enough developers for the job. We're about to hit 2026. Let's accept that SAMP is obsolete and there is virtually no point spending resources into it. The SAMP server had its brain death years ago. The heart is beating, people get the illusion that SAMP might survive, but in reality, it died a long time ago. We hate to see the server we spent our childhoods on get closed, but conservatism of something that no longer has interest is just bad. I personally think that the SAMP server should just be allowed to have the peaceful death it rightfully deserves after decades of roleplay and stay as a wonderful memory in our heads instead of a last ditch effort gone wrong. RageMP is the only way to ensure LSRP's survival. This is just simple facts. If anything, LSRP was extremely delayed to make the move to RageMP. GTA5, in every single aspect, is superior to the literal team deathmatch server we had on SAMP since 2024. For more than five years, people have migrated from LSRP to GTAW, because it was just simply the same thing they had in LSRP, but with better scripts, better graphics, and better everything, yet for some reason we're still insisting on trying to bring back SAMP to life. The player counts speak for themselves. Your average Joe is no longer interested in a 20 year old "nostalgia" that is being clowned on by insiders, and outsiders. Being in LSRP used to mean something back in the days. It doesn't mean shit anymore because we just kept trying to revive a corpse that died in 2021 with false hopes and false promises. It's over guys. Just like everything in life, SAMP finally died, whether we like it or not.

Thank you to the admins for letting this topic breathe and everyone for the respectful responses and valuable contributions to this discussion. Many excellent insights and ideas are coming in. Let's keep that going and hopefully someone from the administration is compiling a list of suggestions to consider going forward.

I get where you're coming from because when staff had decided to turn back to SAMP instead of Rage, it was the exact same thing that happened. Players joined the team showing solely interest in SAMP and not Rage, this is over a year ago I'm speaking in perspective of, when it first relaunched. Every new member of the staff joined only showing interest in SAMP and not Rage. Soo I understand your point of view from a different observation because, exactly how you are describing how you felt the staff team direction was heading into RAGE over SAMP for the past six months. And I completely agree with you, that it should be divided into two sections, if we're gonna keep both platforms open. End of the day, we've got a community set in two different directions no matter how you look at things. Now from my point of view, the main concern of this topic for the SAMP players is there isn't enough SAMP updates coming out for players to keep interest in LSRP SAMP, because the current Devs are mainly involved in the RAGE side of things, and weren't interested in SAMP to begin with. Yes, a year ago? There was a good few Devs onboard in the team, as well as testers which all arrived solely for SAMP, now for me personally at that time I was disappointed that this wave come only showing interest in SAMP and not trying to help RAGE reform itself, but I understand that people just have their own interest and opinions; soo why pursue them to help out in something they don't want to help out in. Two weeks into SAMP opening it was pretty clear that people who wanted to come in as staff members for SAMP didn't have the drive or commitment to actually overall help the server grow, Devs at that time were pushing out modules to have about five to ten percent of the SAMP dedicated testers not even help with testing the modules, which frustrated those Devs and in turn made them leave; and those testers were eventually as well removed for not helping to commit to the server. Again, this is just my point of view from what I witnessed in my time. Only thing I could really add to try and assist LSRP SAMP is if any of you know a Dev that can code in SAMP and is interested in doing that type of thing, let them know about the concerns and ask them to apply for a position, if you want to help the server out yourself but don't have any coding skills? Apply to become a tester when a committed Dev to SAMP arrives to help them test modules and push out updates regularly.

I don't mean to derail at all. But the damage is absolutely done. We lost valuable members and reliable admins that quite clearly cared yesterday. Community members including myself and others were banned/suspended from the forums for no reason. Aloosh and Maxolino is no longer an admin. Between the last thread and every other threads in the past there is way to much valuable information about what comes next. I'd love to see motivated community members play a more significant role on forums and on the server. I think it is safe to say that we're all so freaking exhausted trying to just express our feelings which always almost ends up going over ears and eyes that aren't ready to hear or see. The current server situation is just pitiful and again community members are here to push the server in a different direction, but the solution ends up just getting slashed by admins. I've spent about fifteen years on this server... There is no game quite like LSRP on SAMP and there will never be one again unless we all band together, listen to the ugly freaking truth and push this community forward.

rollin crip thats da gvngk

The truth is, the way RAGE was introduced as the future and vision for LSRP and its community is absolutely ridiculous. At first, I didn’t pay it much attention, but over the past six or so months, I’ve come to realise that half the staff team aren’t here to support the only platform we currently have up and running. Most are hogging their roles while waiting for RAGE. That hasn’t only created a divide within the team but has also made things very discouraging for the community. Staff members are failing to realise that SA:MP still has potential, still will have potential, and just needs the right people who share the same passion to keep it running. What’s the point of having testers on our current platform when they’re not interested in it? I really tried to make sense of it but couldn’t. Now that this division exists within the staff, I think it’s time for management to make it official. If staff members aren’t interested in SA:MP, split them. Have those who share a passion for this platform perform and actually partake in vital roles for it. There’s no reason for the head of any team to hold their role when they have no interest in SA:MP. It’s time for everybody to pull their weight, from staff to community. I’ve read a couple of decent suggestions made by Voronov, and I stand by them. It would be great to create an economy other than guns and drugs for illegal factions. This is why I always hoped for an inventory system, like I mentioned in the previous thread. There are endless possibilities once items are actually introduced to the server. Like Martin Busato also mentioned, any money made from SA:MP should have been pumped back into it. I do understand that there aren’t many developers who share the same passion some of us do when it comes to SA:MP, but at the same time, we’re not actively recruiting for one. Management should be looking to recruit developers for SA:MP, especially those who show interest. The more, the merrier. Furthermore, there should be a capable person managing those developers, and a project or two should be pushed out for SA:MP every couple of months. If, however, we do not find any, the money made from donations should be used to help bolster this platform. Whether it’s for development or marketing, anything at this point would mean a lot. I’d really like to go into more detail, but I honestly fear that this thread will derail, eventually get locked, and that my posts will get removed. I’ll wait and see how this one goes before I take the time to write anything else.

I'm kinda a new player on this community, joined in June 2025. It was an amazing half a year where I could develop my RP and also my English skills that were wack. I met one of the best collectives I could've find and I got along with them really good showing that I'm trustworthy. For that, even I've landed late on this server with so much heritage, I felt every session of gameplay. I had the chance to meet older and experienced players that brought the lore with their RP skills. Please, don't let this die, not now. As many said here, LSRP is known for the SAMP scene. If you want to /sell/ your product to the mases you should aim for the feelings first and show the community a straight direction without cloudy ways. /The man/ laying almost dead on the hospital still breaths, hardly but it does, at least. There's still hope. I think there's no better to do for the server, mapping it's cool, the systems need a little fixing, etc. Nothing on Earth it's perfect and people should unite, showing a honorably last dance that beautiful even the trollers and LSRP's biggest haters would love to join and fix their behaviour. I don't know what's the hype for GTA V, there's also World who took the floor and as @kermit said: Their assets and goods are there, no one's looking to farm their days again.

I honestly think before LSRP V is even considered to launch; what would the lore of that server even be? Is it a continuation of the lore from LSRP SAMP carried over? Or is it going to be a completely new environment, with new characters, new factions and a new server lore? I find it really difficult to differentiate between them because at the beginning of LSRP V’s launch we were told we couldn’t roleplay Valenti because it is a new universe and new lore. Yet, people were still carrying their trade mark names from LSRP SAMP (an example being Natasha Valentine) and carrying them over. This is also something that needs to be clarified and set in stone. Some factions that were a thing on LSRP SAMP were allowed to cross over while some weren’t.

Sadly this'll just fall on deaf ears. I appreciate that there are still some people who believe LSRP will remain on SAMP but concerns has been voiced before and to be honest, Mmartin won't hand off LSRP to anyone aslong as they have this dream idea of LSRP V being their saviour they never received.

Lets gooo🔥

writing this in phone I have been apart of this community since 2018, known about it since around 2016 over the years I’ve matured, been through relationships and seen this server in so many ways. I’ve found out so much about myself specifically thanks to this server it re-sparked the creativity I once had that was sucked out of me when I was even younger. It’s helped me through dark times, that especially helped me get my creative control back (as seen from my latest character stories) that fuelled me to keep going and see screenshot editing as an artform, kind of like writing a book or painting a picture to a story, that being one of the main reasons I haven’t used the auto screenshot tools and stuck solely to photoshop all these years. I’ve seen the history, dramas, notable factions and the legacy many have left and through all the “samp is dead” messages we’ve all lived through that are probably in the thousands, most of us refused to give up. SAMP will always have the vibe that GTA 5 servers could never replicate and after seeing the huge downfall of LSRP v first launch, I think many of us would agree it will be a disaster once again. I believe many would agree with me that instead of migrating to LSRP v they would rather go back to gta w since they either: already have accounts or friends or ingame assets which they don’t want to grind for again. A lot of us prefer SAMP for the simplicity of it, most of us have been around so long we know the map and functions and what objects have collisions and what can stop bullets by memory. This can’t be said for most of us if we are forced to move to LSRP v as a lot of us do. My thoughts on the matter on even just a tiny bump of revival, especially if mmartin has the email accounts that have been used all this time that might still exist in a mysql database somewhere, is do something similar littleitaly rp does I had completely forgotten I made an account there, but still get emails to my crappy school email I made 14 years ago about major updates. This might sound tedious but I see it as a “We’re still here and we haven’t forgotten you” type of way, sure you cant filter out all the bad apples but what can you do. This idea wasn’t directly inspired by the emails I got, but rather a few years ago I was outside with my friends and this one dude was on a mental health walk or something (i seriously don’t really know what he was up to nor can I remember his name he literally just joined us and talked about his life) and while chatting we got into gaming and he mentioned this one server he used to play called LSRP, my mind went fuckin wild realising the age this dude is and the fact the server I play on that was currently still regarded as my “Childhood” that was also his childhood though he was way older made me realise he really has been around that long, I mentioned it to him that it’s still up and alive and swell (this was way before the first shutdown and major ddos attacks) and he talked a bit about the server, the factions that were around then and notable players he remembered even asked if him or that guy or she still play, which I had no answer for (I couldn’t remember or didn’t know those people) but could comfort with the fact that many from his era are still around. I might’ve made him return to the server or even got him rewatching old clips from the server where he used to spend his days in. The moral of this story is, this server has been around for so long, It’s been an amazing way for people to find out more about themself and what they’re interested in, hell YBN nahmir’s lyrics are probably from his characters from this very server, but migrating to LSRP v is not a good idea, I just hope that if it does migrate, the samp server stays with the a before mentioned and I do not wish to continue on a gta 5 platform that a lot of us aren’t accustom to nor have any nostalgia, passion, artistic expression both by skins and screenshots and the way you type your /me’s and /my’s, funding (have you seen the recent ram prices??) and simplicity. It is now 1:45 AM I don’t even know if I made any sense but, heres hoping samp strives for another few years.

Do not delete this one, LSRP helped me through a lot.

The Mexican Mafia / Politics on the Pavement I

The Mexican Mafia / Politics on the Pavement I

I’d like to start this post with a big gratitude to the people operating behind the scenes to make the server last this long. The truth is that from my perspective as just a roleplayer of the community there isn’t a whole lot that I am aware of what it takes to do tedious things like develop and invest in projects tailored to satisfy a big community. Having been apart of this server since 2011, and witnessing different phases of management and FM, the way that I view things now is that everyone has their idea of what they think is good for the server and while it may rub off on other people the wrong way, I know that none of it was in vain. There isn’t one specific demographic of people in this community to blame for the state of the server, because every one of us has contributed to the current state of it. There are bad apples in every genre. Depending on the course of how this topic proceeds I would love to elaborate more, but I’m curious to see how this will be navigated because the players who want to put in the effort to make things better gets mixed in with those who strive to be nothing but an utter nuisance. I’d like the staff team to please consider separating those who offer constructive criticism into perhaps a private user group with this goal in mind. For those who are immature, toxic, and doxxing please keep them far away from the topic at hand.

The old is dying and the new cannot be born

I would like to preface this post by first begging administration to let this thread run its course unless it is absolutely derailed to the point of idiocy. Let the discourse flow. I have, embarrassingly, been a part of this server since early 2008. My 12 year old self would ask I be euthanized if he knew I was still roleplaying at my current age. However, I have always had a soft spot for this community and the people that make it up. Roleplay is a hobby that keeps the brain fresh and creative. I am too old to employ ChatGPT in this response. These words come from my beating, probably-autistic heart. I have been around for the entirety of LS-RP's latest return. I watched it start off firing, continue strong and exceed my own expectations of longevity by more than a year. I have had some of the best roleplay of my entire cursed tenure in this iteration. I have now watched, sighing, as it degrades. There is not one single reason or issue to point to, but instead, a host of many. This last run was doomed to fail from Ground Zero. I expected nothing of it, and it continued to defy and surprise me everyday. GTA World has the playerbase, the features, the map - all a roleplayer with something better than an ancient laptop could desire. It, however, lacks LS-RP's innate soul. GTA World is not LS-RP. Do I know how to salvage this server? No. Do I think an aggressive marketing campaign will save it? No. Easy requests have been delayed, scripting has grated down to a standstill, and the only good administrators we have have somehow become a lightning rod for the frustration everyone feels. Do I attribute these issues to a single individual? No, the rot is systemic. Grow up if you're trying to affix blame to a single individual. Is there administration that should have long ago lost their title? Yes. Many of these others however, as aforementioned, are the only ones fighting to make the situation better and breathe life into a sever already gasping for its own. Stop shitting on them. They are the only thing keeping this Titanic-after-iceberg afloat. As we sit here and debate how to save a dying, geriatric body, I see only one way forward. It's bringing that soul back. Countless hours have been spent chasing away factions comprised of some of the best roleplayers I know in an attempt to punish the lowest percentile of their membership. Meanwhile, spree-robbers and moronic behavior runs rampant and untouched. If you want this shit to last, it's time to get in-game and lead by example. Create the change you want to see in this world. Create a community of roleplayers that people want to join. If we wanted to leave and discard this server, we all would have left already and wouldn't waste time typing up a response like this. The manifesto? I can only speak to my specific niche on the server. Center it around roleplay. We have a roster of strong official factions. Concentrate features into their hands. Encourage systems that allow them to connect with unofficial factions and water the plants seeded by these new factions. Create an ecosystem wherein factions are forced to rely on one another to achieve their aims. Narrow the scope of schemes and material distribution and force factions to center their aims into singular ones. X faction should be the kingpin of cocaine, while another should have the means to launder money. A third faction should pioneer good chopshop-based roleplay, while the fourth spends their time researching how to best portray the marijuana grow op they have in their basement in-game. These are limited examples that could easily be implemented. Reflect real life criminality. Encourage interplay between these groups, not because it results in cool screenshots, but instead, because it creates a semblance of necessity in sustaining their own faction’s expansion. The best roleplayers I know have always been encyclopedias of knowledge in their specific lane. Encourage this specialization. Stop policing concepts so harshly when the activity and wherewithal is not there to sustain or even acknowledge their approval. Let people cook. The second order of importance is clarity. Too many discussions occur behind closed doors. As a member of IFT, my ilk and myself are guilty of this. Expose everything to the soul of this community - the players. Act on their suggestions when good immediately, and offer insight as how to improve upon ideas when they're bad or otherwise lacking. The administration should not be a separate body from the players overseeing them, but instead, a sounding board for the players they are representing. Make it political. There should be no tenure for administrators that aren't enacting the goals of the general populace. Administrators should not be private police, but the speaking output for those they represent. To stifle discussion is to make your own job irrelevant. Unless blatant bullshit is happening, let everyone say their piece in the agora that is this server. Lastly, and most importantly: FUCK KRISK FUCK KIRIL SOKOLOV FREE SHARIF REYNOLDS FREE RIVA FREE ASESINO FREE DAMIANC UP BAHDBH AND RYE FUCK GTA WORLD We can all watch this server die a slow, awkward death or we can take steps to be the change we wish to see in it. For many of us, this is our last chance at roleplaying and comprising membership of the server we want to see. Clown on this post to your heart's content. I have searched all of my empty pockets and cannot find a fuck to give.