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@jack The removal of Kev's comment is a prime example of what's wrong with these type of discussions. I know you personally haven't removed it (I certainly hope so) however that only shows to the rest of the community that you cannot even reason with staff members properly. He gave out valid points and majority of it came from his experience as IFC/Tester. If he is not fit to share his POV, we might as well lock this thread.
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Thank you @Martin_Busato for always staying pure and promoting the best roleplay with yours and your faction's efforts. With respect for you guys I won't troll or derail this thread, I'm only going to speak the truth and if it gets removed again then that's the only answer you need about what intentions management has for LSRP. And respect to @jack for being willing to hear us out. I was going to be a lot more brash with this post until I read you were formulating a response so I will hold off with some things until we see it. I do want to address some critical concerns I have with things I've seen since being staff again and I hope instead of hiding this you will address it in your reply. I speak with the experience of being in multiple generations of staff/IFT so please heed what I am saying. As Aloosh pointed out, most of the staff here are simply hogging their positions and doing nothing for the actual functioning server while waiting for rage which isn't even half way ready to be a playable server. From what we've seen, your only concept of marketing is saying "soonTM" to the 5 people a month who ask when it will come out while taking your sweet time with the development. 2 months ago, while I was staff I had asked in the rage discord channel when they would be executing their "marketing concept" (which was copy/pasted from ChatGPT) and the response I was given was "probably as soon as we are feature ready so there's actual stuff to show". Mind you they had already launched the server once, it flopped, and they've been back at the drawing board for over a year now... And to this day we haven't seen a single rage snippet. Upon being further questioned the dev said "if you'd join the server and help push development forward, you wouldn't need me to answer this question". I'm being very vague because I don't want another forum ban, if you want proof you can message me. I don't know what moral high ground this side of staff thinks they have when they neglect the server with players to "work" on a hypothetical lala land that isn't even half ready. I and many others cannot make any sense of it. What allowed LSRP to stand the test of time was the standard of illegal roleplay it provided compared to every other option, and the truth is that everyone still supporting the rage server is simply too bad at roleplay to do anything meaningful on the SAMP server. They don't know what it's like to spend hours upon hours grinding for official status in a faction surrounded by high-quality players. They don't know what an immersive roleplay scene really looks and feels like. When they get bored of dying to factions on their LEO characters they band together on alts to either create or join sub-par factions such as 38 street. They are bad and have always been bad at roleplay, they care more about updated graphics and gameplay and want their own little space to rub each other off on GTA 5 and get away from all the "elitists" on SAMP and GTAW. At least, this is the vibe that we - the people who have put countless graveyard shifts into LSRP's underworld economy - feel when we see things like this. I would also like the state of our current staff team to be addressed. Tester applications are nothing but a clout competition. Voting consists of nothing apart from "do I know him? Yes/no. Yes, he's in PD and he's so nice! He would be a great addition!". The question of whether these people know how to roleplay is never asked. Most of the dev team intentionally does not work on SAMP for rage, and yet it is nowhere near a standard to compete against GTAW. I think this is a very selfish mentality. You should be developing for the players who are going to populate your server. If you want to serve your own desires then leave our community and develop your own. We as a community have made it clear countless times what we truly want, and are being ignored every day by the development and management team. IFT have put hours of brainstorming into script ideas to accommodate credit card/bank fraud, testing kits, weed growing, etc etc and when it doesn't fall on deaf ears we have Kane ragebaiting us on the forums. These threads are in the IFT board collecting dust for over a year now. I can tell you with 100% confidence that 90% or more of the server was or is currently cheating, myself included. I've burned myself out over the years and have not truly enjoyed roleplaying for a long time. I'm sure I'll be permanently banned for the cheating I did as I've made some of it public and I have no desire to come back. I don't blame anyone who uses any hacks though. When everyone has the unfair advantage it no longer becomes an advantage, it only levels the playing field. There is a certain level of trust that you cannot afford to lose with your community when it comes to consistent fuck-ups, favoritism, and false promises. You lost our trust years ago when you tried to launch V the first time. You lost our trust when nothing in the UCP voting section has been worked on or implemented since it was added, while you remove all donator packages for some overpriced bundle. You're losing our trust again now by allowing the same thing that happened to the PB last year to happen once more. We are human and we are all getting older. We don't have the time to be giving out second chances to groups with terrible track records. I feel like it would take a miracle for you as management (apart from @badhbh, she is the only one that truly did anything meaningful for the server as management/lead admin since relaunch) to recover from that loss of trust, so instead of happy hoping I think its more realistic for us to start saying our goodbyes. If you want to play with the same 20 people on LSRPV then be my guest. I would advise anyone who wants to play GTA 5 roleplay to go to World. I had my fun, met a lot of really cool people, and can say I contributed a lot to the illegal scene with you guys. To give my thoughts on who could fill the position, I always respected Bennemus and how he handled his role while he was a lead admin. He was always extremely transparent and before the post-covid closure he truly tried his best. If he still has it in him he could be the one that potentially turns this around.
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I agree with this, for one side we can see that most of the old players want exactly what they had in the past and if the present is not exactly like that they just get frustrated and leave and waste a lot of time complaining and making sarcastic comments instead of playing and well some other new players are not very happy with robberies and that kind of shit and also leave the game and well the staff have made some mistakes in the past too. I think it's time to admit that both sides have a problem and the consequences are very evident; the server is empty. Of course i think the staff can be organized in a different way, maybe with not so many ranks that makes the bureaucracy even worse because some admins can't use some commands to take requests and take some other advices that people usually give on forums. But if players want to help they just have to login and play and make the community grow again instead of looking for excuses and blaming others.
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good to see ifm worried about who can furnish interiors, always had a foot in the wrong fucking direction.
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The blunt truth is all products decline eventually. However, you can stave off decline via: Improvement - Faster, cheaper, nicer, easier to use Refreshing things - New design, new packaging, new features Find new users - Different group or for a new purpose Reposition the server - Change the story about why it matters What doesn't work: Shouting louder and marketing the same product Pretending decline isn't happening Claiming something is still good because it used to be is a risk. You either fix it properly with a clear deadline, or shut it down and move on. Dragging it out only wastes people's time. Something that can bind people together is a clear vision. Clearly explain how LS-RP's SAMP future can beat RageMP. If that's not clear, then people won't stay. Either produce a believable roadmap that gives players a real reason to choose here over there, or accept the answer the market has already given and step aside. I've got nothing but love for this server and community, I hope the management team gather the feedback and figure it out.
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Dont want neither to invtest too much time responding to this thread but neither troll it. Will drop just few lines. I find it funny how the admins favorite's (legal faction members) were the first to abandon the ship called LSRP and even claim admin positions in other servers when the same admins who did favor them and the elitists groups in the servers pushed away many SERIOUS and good factions (Bastards MC, Bellomo) because it took literally months for a backdoor of a buisness to get added or for a business change of location. And then we got people like clack packer bonekrusher etc, who might have trolled once 1 year ago and broke ROE getting hunted and punished as its their fault the server is declining and they are the ones pushing new players away. Yet these people are dropping their last cents here still, when noone else does. Says a lot about the community love of this server and sadly says a lot about managment point of view. As for people thinking they can compete vs the competition at GTA V, just remind yourself how many LSRP competitors were popping on and off back in the day (even in 2025) and their ending. Its complete nonsense. Focus on SAMP, dont even compare it to GTA V because the experience is different and we dont play SAMP because we cant run V but because SAMP is a different experience all together. FREE THE TURKS FREE BLUEBERRY FREE THE POPE FREE THE RGANG FREE LSRP FREE THE COUSINS
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Yes. And consider expanding roles for trusted members of the community that are elected and chosen by the community to represent them without strings and powers attached beyond that, like administrative powers etc. It is obvious at this point that the current system breeds yes men. Look what happened to Aloosh's comment on the previous thread and the subsequent comment from admin's discord that leaked shortly after. Consider it a court jester role. Somebody needs to spill the truth without feeling compelled to hold back because of some sort administrative role or whatever.
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I'll try to mention a few words as an player since 2008. LSRP has always been the soul of all heavy RP communities. Every other community that was established was under the inspiration of LSRP, by grace and not by merit. The last playerbase crash was severe for several reasons, in which both management and players played a part. It started with toxicity between the players and the rivalry getting out of hand. Now for the main point and the rather critical reason, which is the leadership. Where the hell are you Mmartin? The donations died down, and that's not even an interesting topic, but as the symbol of LSRP, you should have been here during these times too. I feel that the current leadership is operating and choosing the community's "settings" according to their own private needs, not to serve the community. Only those close to the plate are chosen and enjoy the benefits. - These discussions feel like a stuck video to me, and every time there's disappointment with the outcome. I hope this time there will be a significant change that can restore this dismal situation. Peace out, fays3l #FreeEveryone