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Just by hiding Kev’s post to make sure there’s nothing too harsh being said about the managment or the server’s state says a lot. Instead of putting that energy into fixing what is clearly broken, we are unfortunately dealing with control issues and fragile egos. If we take the last thread into consideration as well, there is about 12 pages worth of communities’ concern on what is going to happen next. That alone should be enough to show that there is something seriously wrong. Managment, I’m not sure if it’s clear but it is the community that shapes the server, and what you are doing right now is just spreading trust issues across your players. People might be “heard”, but you are still hushing them down, quietly filtering what you want to hear or just outright delete the post, and yet there’s still no plan being show on how things are going to improve. The ship is sinking.
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LSRP still needs this faction ngl. Good run, it was good roleplaying with you guys from the other side!
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Choosing a single favorite is so tough, but I’d have to go with The Witcher 3. The storytelling and atmosphere are just on another level. I actually searched for how to screen record on mac with audio recently because I wanted to capture some of the cinematic moments and dialogue to share with a friend who hasn't played it yet. It’s definitely a masterpiece!
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Ivan started following A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive
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Looks like someone with a brain made it visible again. Thank you. Let's now keep this thread on topic and wait for management to address our concerns. edit: For some reason the part in my post about LSRP not having a functioning anti cheat was removed by an admin. Everyone is aware of this already so could someone please tell me why this was edited out?
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@jack The removal of Kev's comment is a prime example of what's wrong with these type of discussions. I know you personally haven't removed it (I certainly hope so) however that only shows to the rest of the community that you cannot even reason with staff members properly. He gave out valid points and majority of it came from his experience as IFC/Tester. If he is not fit to share his POV, we might as well lock this thread.
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Well said. The staff team has been harbouring a bunch of people with that same silly mentality. Whenever multiple staff members voiced their concerns about SA-MP and its current state in staff chat, they’d get gangbanged by the same group of friends over and over again. Nothing constructive, just constantly shitting on you. Let me give you an example (THIS IS FROM MAIN CHAT, DON’T BAN ME). How can you expect a staff member, or those who are here for SA-MP, to stay for the long run when, first, you’ve been neglecting the community, second, you go MIA and show no support, and third, you have people on the team who are constantly bashing the platform. These same people who have been bashing the platform that some of us still love have gone untouched. They haven’t been addressed, and it’s been ongoing for months now. It’s a divide that management has supported because they themselves are part of the neglect we’re experiencing. Stop saying SA:MP is dead when you’re not even trying to fix it. Be part of the solution, or shut your mouth and wait for your so called GTA V server to show up. Edit: Also, can someone tell us why Kev’s reply was removed?
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Thank you @Martin_Busato for always staying pure and promoting the best roleplay with yours and your faction's efforts. With respect for you guys I won't troll or derail this thread, I'm only going to speak the truth and if it gets removed again then that's the only answer you need about what intentions management has for LSRP. And respect to @jack for being willing to hear us out. I was going to be a lot more brash with this post until I read you were formulating a response so I will hold off with some things until we see it. I do want to address some critical concerns I have with things I've seen since being staff again and I hope instead of hiding this you will address it in your reply. I speak with the experience of being in multiple generations of staff/IFT so please heed what I am saying. As Aloosh pointed out, most of the staff here are simply hogging their positions and doing nothing for the actual functioning server while waiting for rage which isn't even half way ready to be a playable server. From what we've seen, your only concept of marketing is saying "soonTM" to the 5 people a month who ask when it will come out while taking your sweet time with the development. 2 months ago, while I was staff I had asked in the rage discord channel when they would be executing their "marketing concept" (which was copy/pasted from ChatGPT) and the response I was given was "probably as soon as we are feature ready so there's actual stuff to show". Mind you they had already launched the server once, it flopped, and they've been back at the drawing board for over a year now... And to this day we haven't seen a single rage snippet. Upon being further questioned the dev said "if you'd join the server and help push development forward, you wouldn't need me to answer this question". I'm being very vague because I don't want another forum ban, if you want proof you can message me. I don't know what moral high ground this side of staff thinks they have when they neglect the server with players to "work" on a hypothetical lala land that isn't even half ready. I and many others cannot make any sense of it. What allowed LSRP to stand the test of time was the standard of illegal roleplay it provided compared to every other option, and the truth is that everyone still supporting the rage server is simply too bad at roleplay to do anything meaningful on the SAMP server. They don't know what it's like to spend hours upon hours grinding for official status in a faction surrounded by high-quality players. They don't know what an immersive roleplay scene really looks and feels like. When they get bored of dying to factions on their LEO characters they band together on alts to either create or join sub-par factions such as 38 street. They are bad and have always been bad at roleplay, they care more about updated graphics and gameplay and want their own little space to rub each other off on GTA 5 and get away from all the "elitists" on SAMP and GTAW. At least, this is the vibe that we - the people who have put countless graveyard shifts into LSRP's underworld economy - feel when we see things like this. I would also like the state of our current staff team to be addressed. Tester applications are nothing but a clout competition. Voting consists of nothing apart from "do I know him? Yes/no. Yes, he's in PD and he's so nice! He would be a great addition!". The question of whether these people know how to roleplay is never asked. Most of the dev team intentionally does not work on SAMP for rage, and yet it is nowhere near a standard to compete against GTAW. I think this is a very selfish mentality. You should be developing for the players who are going to populate your server. If you want to serve your own desires then leave our community and develop your own. We as a community have made it clear countless times what we truly want, and are being ignored every day by the development and management team. IFT have put hours of brainstorming into script ideas to accommodate credit card/bank fraud, testing kits, weed growing, etc etc and when it doesn't fall on deaf ears we have Kane ragebaiting us on the forums. These threads are in the IFT board collecting dust for over a year now. I can tell you with 100% confidence that 90% or more of the server was or is currently cheating, myself included. I've burned myself out over the years and have not truly enjoyed roleplaying for a long time. I'm sure I'll be permanently banned for the cheating I did as I've made some of it public and I have no desire to come back. I don't blame anyone who uses any hacks though. When everyone has the unfair advantage it no longer becomes an advantage, it only levels the playing field. There is a certain level of trust that you cannot afford to lose with your community when it comes to consistent fuck-ups, favoritism, and false promises. You lost our trust years ago when you tried to launch V the first time. You lost our trust when nothing in the UCP voting section has been worked on or implemented since it was added, while you remove all donator packages for some overpriced bundle. You're losing our trust again now by allowing the same thing that happened to the PB last year to happen once more. We are human and we are all getting older. We don't have the time to be giving out second chances to groups with terrible track records. I feel like it would take a miracle for you as management (apart from @badhbh, she is the only one that truly did anything meaningful for the server as management/lead admin since relaunch) to recover from that loss of trust, so instead of happy hoping I think its more realistic for us to start saying our goodbyes. If you want to play with the same 20 people on LSRPV then be my guest. I would advise anyone who wants to play GTA 5 roleplay to go to World. I had my fun, met a lot of really cool people, and can say I contributed a lot to the illegal scene with you guys. To give my thoughts on who could fill the position, I always respected Bennemus and how he handled his role while he was a lead admin. He was always extremely transparent and before the post-covid closure he truly tried his best. If he still has it in him he could be the one that potentially turns this around.
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I agree with this, for one side we can see that most of the old players want exactly what they had in the past and if the present is not exactly like that they just get frustrated and leave and waste a lot of time complaining and making sarcastic comments instead of playing and well some other new players are not very happy with robberies and that kind of shit and also leave the game and well the staff have made some mistakes in the past too. I think it's time to admit that both sides have a problem and the consequences are very evident; the server is empty. Of course i think the staff can be organized in a different way, maybe with not so many ranks that makes the bureaucracy even worse because some admins can't use some commands to take requests and take some other advices that people usually give on forums. But if players want to help they just have to login and play and make the community grow again instead of looking for excuses and blaming others.
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good to see ifm worried about who can furnish interiors, always had a foot in the wrong fucking direction.
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The blunt truth is all products decline eventually. However, you can stave off decline via: Improvement - Faster, cheaper, nicer, easier to use Refreshing things - New design, new packaging, new features Find new users - Different group or for a new purpose Reposition the server - Change the story about why it matters What doesn't work: Shouting louder and marketing the same product Pretending decline isn't happening Claiming something is still good because it used to be is a risk. You either fix it properly with a clear deadline, or shut it down and move on. Dragging it out only wastes people's time. Something that can bind people together is a clear vision. Clearly explain how LS-RP's SAMP future can beat RageMP. If that's not clear, then people won't stay. Either produce a believable roadmap that gives players a real reason to choose here over there, or accept the answer the market has already given and step aside. I've got nothing but love for this server and community, I hope the management team gather the feedback and figure it out.
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