A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive

[Michael_Dippolito]

What does management intend to do about the player base numbers for LSRP SAMP? Is management/staff satisfied with the current number of players playing the server at the moment, and if not, what is the plan to draw more numbers to the server? 500 players is a huge reach, but ultimately about 100-150 in my opinion can be sustained until LSRP V launches. 

[Femto]

1 hour ago, jack said:

Remind me of the question and I will answer.

 

How does the management team plan to attract a new player base?

 

• Is the expectation that the RageMP server will be the primary method for bringing in new players?
• Since the formation of the Marketing team, what actions have been taken to attract new players? Also, what is the plan for the future?
• And lastly, as the title suggests, what is the future of LSRP SA-MP?

 

[DCF]

Hey jack, the community sincerely thanks you for your quick response during these times of the holidays, however your comment summarized completely nothing of what were for the most relevant and originally brought up in this topic by the community, and you may forgive me for my harsh tone but I'm sure you can understand that after this community have been on it's last dying breath for almost more than 8 years now. It seems to me that what this server is trying to do (that's for the management) is attempting to deliberately kill off it's own server (SA-MP) just to please your 5 players from RAGEMP, and however you guys may not understand this, but whilst you're doing this, YOU'RE killing off the whole COMMUNITY and this has been going on for way too long now, I would understand if some people just completely gave up because most of us are on verge of doing so unless you THE management decides to step up and actually do something about this situation once and for all remove Mmartin from his pointless position and assign someone who actually gives a fuck about the community.

The staff & management needs to understand that this server & community will not see anywhere near their future past 2026 if they continue with this bullshit.

[Aloosh]

Nearly 3 days for that response is disappointing. Anyways, you failed to cover vital concerns in regard to SA:MP:

 

Martin has been Head of Development for nearly 5 months, and as Badhbh pointed out, it’s something he wanted.

What work or projects have been pushed since?

 

What about the roadmap from June 2024. Are we to forget about it?

 

What efforts have management and leadership gone through to find SA:MP developers?

 

Are we ever going to address cheaters, or at the very least make it harder?

 

How are we going to cater to the SA:MP community when, as previously mentioned, you’ve got staff members who hold key positions but don’t show interest in the platform?

 

Now that the Illegal Faction Team is inactive, how are you going to persuade others to join and contribute?

 

What about the mapping team?

 

What about the rules and how admins enforce them?

 

Marketing efforts?

 

It is also no secret that you’ve been quite inactive yourself. You only came back because of these threads, which is something you did last year as well. If I recall correctly, you carried your weight for a couple of months and then disappeared again. What’s going to change this time?

 

And lastly, how are you going to convince the SA:MP community that the server is here for the long run and is not being used to present a somehow “active community” to ensure a healthier launch for LSRP V?

Edited 46 minutes ago by Aloosh

[Clack]

2 hours ago, jack said:

It’s difficult to take criticism seriously at times from those who actively hacked, mass-DM’d, or repeatedly broke core rules. This is a double-edged sword, and both sides share responsibility without question.

 

If you aren't willing to take any criticism of players who have previously cheated or are still actively doing it, you will be left with 10% of the community to speak with.

 

Management's inability to implement a decent enough anti cheat has forced players who have been victimized by unrelentless cheating to start using cheats themselves, mainly as a precaution of not getting "caught slipping". If you are in an active PK war and your enemy is using nametags while you are not - you are 100% going to be ambushed and killed. This is not about a "learn to lose" mentality. Unfortunately, the only way you can outplay the P2W players is to be a P2W player yourself.

 

I suppose your answer is to gather sufficient enough evidence and report the said person, right? Let me show you what happened the last time I followed that advice:

 

The following counter report involved four videos of me (Francis Lanahan) logging in game and following very specific steps on catching another player (Dragan Arsic) from STCO cheating.

 

TLDR: I followed all steps required in order to prove that he couldn't have any idea that it was me riding on a stolen bike, with a new skin, masked up. He was still able to identify me and shoot me down.

 

He was initially banned for nametags until he decided to ban appeal months later.

 

Despite having an entire documentary of his cheating, he was somehow unbanned. I have no bad blood with aidens however I am just giving this as an example of how your ways of countering cheaters just doesn't work.

 

I am sure the community can give you countless of examples of how some of their clear cut reports were tarnished by staff members for "lack of evidence" because they knew that the ban would've been overturned in a staff report.

 

All of your ways of handling cheaters just encourages more cheating. That is entirely management's fault and you cannot blame the players for doing it. You would rarely see an experienced LSRP roleplayer starting to cheat out of the blue, it is usually motivated by the lack of adequate punishments for cheaters or the absolute lack of punishments at all.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right however you have to understand this point of view as this isn't personal, this is how the majority of your community thinks.

Edited 1 hour ago by Clack

[Kartelboss]

Gather up the small group of people who have so much say over the SA-MP community while clearly having no intentions of helping/role-playing here & open a separate community for the rage server if it means so much.

 

If anyone wanted to or wants to roleplay on GTA V they will join world, it's that simple. People stuck around on SA-MP because they actually enjoyed SA-MP and it's features. Yes it's an old game but the simplicity of it is what kept players, Roblox doesn't have super graphics yet maintains a strong PB. 

 

Badbh is one of the only ones I see interacting with the community and trying to better things, everyone else thinks they are above the community. Now look, you have 14 players IG during peak hours because rude admins who haven't even been around long want to exert their power & act like they are gods gift. 

 

Nobody with the "rage insider" tag should have any say over what happens on SA-MP when they CLEARLY don't give a fuck about it. 

[Howard1]

1 hour ago, Jugers said:

We see LEO using helicopter camera with night vision. 

What's the issue here? Do you know that every LAPD/LASD AS350 is equiped with Camera and FLIR system?

There is no server-sided script for this on SAMP, but on RAGE there is. Here's another reason why you should support RAGEMP.

 

 

[Jugers]

53 minutes ago, Howard1 said:

What's the issue here? Do you know that every LAPD/LASD AS350 is equiped with Camera and FLIR system?

There is no server-sided script for this on SAMP, but on RAGE there is. Here's another reason why you should support RAGEMP.

 

 

Don't want to turn the thread to flame wars. Just power gaming definition:

 

roleplaying things which are not possible script-wise so that you can gain an unfair advantage.

 

The fact admins in this server ignore this basic rule when it comes to LEO's show's a lot about how obvious and clear cheating gets handled in the game.

Edited 33 minutes ago by Jugers