Can we bring back the old playerbase count?

[westfordd]

Hi there,

 

I don’t typically post on these threads but after reading @Eren ‘s post, I feel comfortable sharing my own thoughts. 
 

1. Illegal Roleplay / Official Factions: the only faction I have genuinely seen active from the current list of official factions are Barons MC and EHC. Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong / just shouting into my own echo-chamber here. We need to open the door for more factions that are active / deserve official. I can name quite a few. Sadly even those factions are beginning to fall off due to my next point. 
 

2. Staff Communication / Wait Times: For context, my faction waited months to hear back from IFC on a faction complex. Our main faction leader reached out numerous times. It took us reaching out to @izumi to get the ball rolling. @Spectre and @badhbh ignored this request and left it on unopened for a month. Our primary faction leader had reached out over discord and forums. I spoke to several members of IFT who all expressed the same: They've also waited ages to hear back from IFC for their own requests. Their hands are tied on so many requests.  
 

Recently, I put in a LOI for the Illegal Faction Management Public Team on recommendation of a member of the IFT. I, like many others here, only want to help. I gave ideas and expressed my interest, only to never hear back and be left on read. Perhaps I lack an understanding of how long it takes them to process information but it seems that even an acknowledgement would be reasonable. 

3. Punishments: Recently, there was an LCN faction that consistently DMed, terrorized other factions, and based on their OOC grudges consistently broke rules to ruin the roleplay of several factions on this server. They have been, subsequently and rightfully, banned. This process however, took around 2 months. They were reported relentlessly and despite these efforts it took until tracksuithitman started to look into them. After several faction reports and consistent player reports, bans were issued. This problem could’ve been resolved months prior had the staff been able to deliver harsher punishments, especially given the severity of the actions. 
 

All in all, I know I’m only one voice but I hope that at the very least that the staff who do help and are outspoken about the issues here know that we are listening and we do appreciate it. Unfortunately, without significant change at the top, this will undoubtedly continue to trend downward like LSRPV did. 

I encourage any of the people I've mentioned here to reply, I know they won't because they have no defense but I might as well keep them honest.

Edited December 11, 2024 by westfordd
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[Foli]

52 minutes ago, Kurdii said:

Eren and Drumj for lead admins, the only 2 admins I’ve seen caring for LSRP on the daily👏🏼

I've seen some others too but definetly two of the most capable! No doubts!

[jcgortez]

As one of the better role-players who was in LSSD for a short while after it relaunched, I'll put this plainly — everything written a few posts above (in the pastebin link) is a crock of shit.

 

"Iudex has a reputation of being a snake, and I don't describe it that way in an attempt to sleight him - that's genuinely how some people view him, due to past experiences." — this comes from the mouth of someone who was in Iudex' TeamSpeak channel 24/7. Why did this realization about Iudex come to you only after he is no longer in a position of power above you? Gee, you'd think you'd realize that way sooner especially if he'd already gotten you banned in 2020.

 

Here's a list of TB members with their number of posts in the temporary application archive (the only publicly accessible forum):

Autumn Kennedy: 16 posts

Paul Xue: 12 posts

Alexander Bond: 12 posts

Ronaldo Dalisay: 10 posts

Daniel Cano: 10 posts

Jabari Harris: 7 posts

 

Clearly, Storm (Paul Xue) is the second "most active" member in TB. If you want to get into a bit of statistics, based on the above data, the average is 11.167 posts and median is 11 posts. He has 12 posts — above the mean and median. So, how or why exactly are you questioning the activity of the second most active TB member?

 

You didn't want the second most active member to get promoted, but you wanted matt — who's known to most everyone in SASD to be one of the most inactive members in the faction, and known to fake his activity by idling at SEB HQ on admin duty (you have a lot of experience with this from back in 2020, don't you?) — to be promoted? What, exactly, has he done for the faction? He was in the SEB operations team since relaunch and showed up to possibly only a single training, at most. He was promoted to East LS Captain, and the only thing he did for the station was set up a thread in the screenshots section. Oh, and who is the only person to post on that thread? Yep, you guessed it - Storm! The only change made to the East LS station after he took over was the introduction of a station GET/COPS team, but that too was the result of the faction leadership redesigning OSS' operations (and it took 2 whole weeks to do that...). The only reason this guy even reached the position he was in, despite being incredibly inactive, is simply because there was no one left in the faction after LS:RP switched to GTA 5. I was involved in a total of 3 SWAT callouts with him and he never, ever role-played in any of them. In the one callout that he led, it was entirely carried out on TeamSpeak. And I say "led" loosely — he just teleported half of the team to the rear of Jefferson Motel, without ever communicating anything (let alone a plan), and started "clearing the building." A second team leader and I took the initiative and made entry from the front to help them, or else the team would've been wiped out AGAIN, for the tenth time that day. I don't want to start with SEB and the abysmal state it is in, but you guys managed to get the team wiped out more in a week than it had ever been in its nearly decade-long existence. So, please, tell me why you think someone as incompetent deserved to be promoted over Storm, who demonstrably has a better track record? Here's even a member of ES (and his then direct supervisor) admitting your friend's inactivity, but go on and promote him already, he's done a whole lot of nothing!!

 

You talk a lot of smack about Iudex and his friends, but that never stopped you from being in their TeamSpeak channel 24/7, rimming them for your next e-promotion. Also, Iudex did more in a week than you and your friends in more than 3 years. What exactly did you or your friends really contribute to the faction except general in-game activity (and even that is debatable for some of you). 

 

If you really want to talk about who ruined SASD, let's review the track record of the sheriffs before Iudex. 2 people (Jack and Brasi) led the faction jointly for over 3 years, and they did their damn best to run the faction to the ground. While Jack was never, ever around and let Brasi be the de facto sheriff, he is complicit in the way the faction turned out because of his inactivity and deserves blame for it. As soon as Brasi got sheriff, his shtick of being inactive and telling people "I'll keep you updated" started. The faction was in such disarray that something as simple as suggestions to limit the wait-time for responding to applications took 2 months (and it was only after Iudex "forced his way in" that the suggestion was accepted and a department directive was released). Do I really need to say more about the state that the faction was in, if it took 2 months for a simple directive saying "don't make people wait more than 72 hours for a response to their application" to be passed? Brasi was completely aloof the entire time — you'd tell/ask him about something and, more often than not, his response to it would be "yeah, what the hell? I didn't know that," "oh, I forgot about that," or something along those lines. If faction issues ever popped up, he was nowhere to be found to address them. On top of that, he never established a good leadership team to act in his absence either. You cry about Iudex being placed in as his undersheriff, while failing to realize the fact that Iudex needed to be put in that position because no one was leading the faction even though the faction had a leader. Most good and competent role-players left after getting a hint of Brasi's leadership (or lack thereof) style. But, you never complained about this even though you were in a position to. I suppose the promotions Brasi was feeding you kept your belly full, up until Iudex brought a stop to it.

 

I'm also laughing incredibly hard at the fact that you're complaining about "the injustice" done to your friend, when he did the same to others. What goes around really does come around!

 

The only thing I agree with you is the fact that LFM has failed miserably and that Justitiae was dealt a bad card. He should've been promoted. He's a sound guy and puts in decent quality work. LFM has been the most useless entity on LS:RP since forever, and it was no different in this iteration of LS:RP. They've been promoting one guy after the other to the head of LFM and passing the buck when all they needed was someone to lay down the hammer and start taking action. Not a single thing done by LFM has made sense. It seems like they just do whatever without a single thought behind their action(s).

[jcgortez]

Damn why is my post hidden? Here's a pastebin link I guess since you love pastebins (in response to Mr. Azuko's post)

 

https://pastebin.com/LdxBzaNk

Edited December 11, 2024 by jcgortez

[Cashew]

12 minutes ago, jcgortez said:

Damn why is my post hidden? Here's a pastebin link I guess since you love pastebins (in response to Mr. Azuko's post)

 

https://pastebin.com/LdxBzaNk

wasn’t hidden, just wasn’t approved for some reason. I had an “approve” option so I’ve clicked that to let you have your say.

[Azuko]

21 minutes ago, jcgortez said:

Damn why is my post hidden? Here's a pastebin link I guess since you love pastebins (in response to Mr. Azuko's post)

 

https://pastebin.com/LdxBzaNk

While I appreciate your ability to be told what to feel, and feeling it, your opinion is ridiculously irrelevant when you start reading into what you’re saying. Iudex rode on the coattails of myself and others who put an unbelievable amount of work into the faction. It seems your lack of access and knowledge has become your own undoing.

 

You posted stats from a publicly accessible forum. I’m so proud of you. You have no frame of reference for the actual work put in behind the scenes because you were never able to earn the positions to do so.

 

As far as Brasi goes, I did try to make changes within my position. Brasi, Iudex, and the failure of HoLF put a halt to all of it.

 

You say my pastebin is shit yet you only say that cause you’re too busy wiping Iudex off your lips, seeing as you have zero clue about what you’re speaking of, my good friend. 

[Azuko]

28 minutes ago, jcgortez said:

"Iudex has a reputation of being a snake, and I don't describe it that way in an attempt to sleight him - that's genuinely how some people view him, due to past experiences." — this comes from the mouth of someone who was in Iudex' TeamSpeak channel 24/7. Why did this realization about Iudex come to you only after he is no longer in a position of power above you? Gee, you'd think you'd realize that way sooner especially if he'd already gotten you banned in 2020.

Not to give you any more attention than your self-inflated egotistical character wants, but I'd like to go into this a little bit more. I immediately confronted Iudex when I returned to the server and him and I became friends, though I knew he would snake me out eventually. I can give you Discord logs of me discussing this with friends from back then, and even now.

 

Iudex still snaked me, and a lot of people out. Surprising, isn't it? No, not at all. I just hoped 4 years of growing-up would have fixed his issues, but they didn't.

30 minutes ago, jcgortez said:

You talk a lot of smack about Iudex and his friends, but that never stopped you from being in their TeamSpeak channel 24/7, rimming them for your next e-promotion. Also, Iudex did more in a week than you and your friends in more than 3 years. What exactly did you or your friends really contribute to the faction except general in-game activity (and even that is debatable for some of you). 

Faction leadership in a channel with other faction leadership?!?!?! THE HORROR!!!

 

Brother, do you realize the amount of shit we did? Pretty sure my resignation topic was the only one to get a thank you from Iudex, seeing as I put in crazy amounts of work into DD.

 

You are the reason the server is in the position it's in, with your own mastubatory 'better roleplayer' comment, it's evident you have no idea how to have a conversation. You are the only one allowed to be correct.

[jcgortez]

2 minutes ago, Azuko said:

While I appreciate your ability to be told what to feel, and feeling it, your opinion is ridiculously irrelevant when you start reading into what you’re saying. Iudex rode on the coattails of myself and others who put an unbelievable amount of work into the faction. It seems your lack of access and knowledge has become your own undoing.

 

You posted stats from a publicly accessible forum. I’m so proud of you. You have no frame of reference for the actual work put in behind the scenes because you were never able to earn the positions to do so.

 

As far as Brasi goes, I did try to make changes within my position. Brasi, Iudex, and the failure of HoLF put a halt to all of it.

 

You say my pastebin is shit yet you only say that cause you’re too busy wiping Iudex off your lips, seeing as you have zero clue about what you’re speaking of, my good friend. 

 

I posted statistics from a publicly accessible forum because it is publicly accessible. I thought this would be obvious, but I guess not. Do you propose giving everyone access to the admin panel to see the hidden sections instead?

 

I got banned by Iudex from the SASD forums. I don't care about him. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. The only person with Iudex' shit on their nose is you — sit in his TeamSpeak channel and speak highly of him 24/7, but just as long as he has the power to promote you!

 

You had the ability to defend your position by listing out what exactly your friend deserved to be promoted for, but you didn't do it. Must be because you don't have an answer for why he should be promoted except that because he was your friend.

 

Also what's up with calling my comment masturbatory? I was just agreeing with your stance that the faction's standards (which includes its roleplay standards) had lowered significantly. Even if it hadn't, I think I do deserve to call myself a better role-player than you, after seeing your version of good police role-play.

[Killtosurvive]

1 hour ago, westfordd said:

Hi there,

 

I don’t typically post on these threads but after reading @Eren ‘s post, I feel comfortable sharing my own thoughts. 
 

1. Illegal Roleplay / Official Factions: the only faction I have genuinely seen active from the current list of official factions is Barons MC. Someone feel free to correct me if I’m wrong / just shouting into my own echo-chamber here. We need to open the door for more factions that are active / deserve official. I can name quite a few. Sadly even those factions are beginning to fall off due to my next point. 
 

2. Staff Communication / Wait Times: For context, my faction waited months to hear back from IFC on a faction complex. Our main faction leader reached out numerous times. It took us reaching out to @izumi to get the ball rolling. @Spectre and @badhbh ignored this request and left it on unopened for a month. Our primary faction leader had reached out over discord and forums. I spoke to several members of IFT who all expressed the same: They've also waited ages to hear back from IFC for their own requests. Their hands are tied on so many requests.  
 

Recently, I put in a LOI for the Illegal Faction Management Public Team on recommendation of a member of the IFT. I, like many others here, only want to help. I gave ideas and expressed my interest, only to never hear back and be left on read. Perhaps I lack an understanding of how long it takes them to process information but it seems that even an acknowledgement would be reasonable. 

3. Punishments: Recently, there was an LCN faction that consistently DMed, terrorized other factions, and based on their OOC grudges consistently broke rules to ruin the roleplay of several factions on this server. They have been, subsequently and rightfully, banned. This process however, took around 2 months. They were reported relentlessly and despite these efforts it took until tracksuithitman started to look into them. After several faction reports and consistent player reports, bans were issued. This problem could’ve been resolved months prior had the staff been able to deliver harsher punishments, especially given the severity of the actions. 
 

All in all, I know I’m only one voice but I hope that at the very least that the staff who do help and are outspoken about the issues here know that we are listening and we do appreciate it. Unfortunately, without significant change at the top, this will undoubtedly continue to trend downward like LSRPV did. 

I encourage any of the people I've mentioned here to reply, I know they won't because they have no defense but I might as well keep them honest.

You meant EHC but it's all right homie but yeah what @Erensaid it's facts after facts

[jack]

@Azuko & @jcgortez we're not turning this into the thread for you two have an argument, continue it in your DMs

[BowZ]

Mr. Azuka's post is hilarious. It's also funny how it has been so many years and Azuko's way of being hostile when confronted hasn't changed. It's OK Azuko, there's no need to get hostile, it's all over.

 

I also find it ironical how you're only complaining so loudly now that things didn’t go your way, even though the writing was on the wall all along. I vividly remember you propagating an image that everything was OK/being worked on/will work out in the end when an unbelievable number of faction members started complaining, raising concerns of how inactive the leadership is, but you still continued to believe otherwise, thinking you can fix it. You were living in delulu, it appeared. "road is long, but it will work out in the end", ironic. 

 

You're completely wrong for not actually mentioning the entire reason why SASD was doomed from the start. You only harped on Iudex, "Iudex, Iudex, Iudex", as if Iudex was the only person who destroyed the faction. @jcgortez's post is spot on. SASD was doomed from the start, it wasn't Iudex's fault, as some will have you think it was. I still wonder why you didn't even mention Brasi or Jack in your initial pastebin (considering they were the main reason the faction never had a chance), completely defending promos that were clearly questionable (part from Justitiae ofc).

 

yeah, iudex's a snake, he snaked you, he snaked me, he ended up couping brasi, but are you just coming to that realization? Ridiculous, considering what he did in 2020. I guess some people are gullible. 

Edited December 11, 2024 by BowZ

[Azuko]

Just now, jack said:

@Azuko & @jcgortez we're not turning this into the thread for you to have an argument, continue it in your DMs

No argument from my end! But definitely not in good taste for this to be the only response to come from any lead admin!

 

As far as @jcgortez, he still calls it the SASD. That's all that needs to be said about the validity of his opinion.

 

6 minutes ago, jcgortez said:

You had the ability to defend your position by listing out what exactly your friend deserved to be promoted for, but you didn't do it. Must be because you don't have an answer for why he should be promoted except that because he was your friend.

Read the thread where we wanted to promote hi- Oh wait you can't.

[jcgortez]

2 minutes ago, Azuko said:

No argument from my end! But definitely not in good taste for this to be the only response to come from any lead admin!

 

As far as @jcgortez, he still calls it the SASD. That's all that needs to be said about the validity of his opinion.

 

Read the thread where we wanted to promote hi- Oh wait you can't.

Read the promotion section where his promotion was uploaded- Oh wait you can't :joy: 

 

And I call it SASD because that's what you and your cronies made the faction — a shell of its former self.

Edited December 11, 2024 by jcgortez

[jack]

1 minute ago, Azuko said:

No argument from my end! But definitely not in good taste for this to be the only response to come from any lead admin!

 

As far as @jcgortez, he still calls it the SASD. That's all that needs to be said about the validity of his opinion.

 

Read the thread where we wanted to promote hi- Oh wait you can't.

A lot of players are sharing their feedback, which is fine. I just don't want it to be clogged up in messages between two players going on about their own issues with each other.

[Azuko]

1 minute ago, jack said:

A lot of players are sharing their feedback, which is fine. I just don't want it to be clogged up in messages between two players going on about their own issues with each other.

Fair!

 

Just sad to see the prime example of what is wrong with this server. Angry, misinformed, inexperienced, illogical people tossing their aggressive opinions into the hat. These are the people @Eren is speaking about, with incredible amounts of trollish toxicity. Yet complacency is the preferred option. Follow the path of least resistance.

 

These are the enemies within your own kingdom. Thankfully I have nothing holding me to this kingdom any longer!