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what the helly?

Man, why are you hiding my post again? It was legit a forum complaint and it was ignored.

Exactly, this has nothing to do with a headlight violation. This was a felony stop due to a PM sent to Bryson after witnessing perform sub-par RP on Harlow's members bro. Memes of management or whoever to delete my post too lmao, its just more sub-par exposure that the community see's on the daily.

I can only speak on behalf of the LSPD. However, because these threads often get derailed, sometimes unintentionally, our command and leadership tend to avoid getting directly involved. More often than not, these discussions don’t result in feasible solutions. Instead, we monitor them, take in the feedback, and implement changes where appropriate. I’ll point out some examples of this later in the post. Since taking over just over a week ago, I’ve been directly mentioned. Before this thread gets locked, and without assigning blame to any particular side, I want to acknowledge the concerns being raised. Having been part of the community since 2016, I do feel that acceptable standards have declined across the board. There have been only occasional efforts to raise them. Some of the behavior I’ve witnessed from LEOs in recent months would likely have been unacceptable just a few years ago. However, I can’t always take action on it because in some cases it involves individuals outside of our faction. Some attribute this decline to the community’s age, others to a lack of interest. In my view, we can and should be the ones to reverse this trend, especially with the renewed focus on RAGE. I also want to emphasize a point that @badhbhand @n0de101 brought up. Although I was only recently appointed Chief of Police, I’ve been part of the faction for a long time and have seen the few complaints and reports that faction leadership receives. Both Lemon and I remain easily accessible through the IFT Discord and via forum PMs for any faction-related concerns. The last faction report we received was around May or June. I understand that sending a PM can feel like a barrier, but I want to encourage anyone who believes an LSPD member is breaking rules to report it. A few sentences and any evidence you have is enough. You can message me directly here on the forums or submit a report at police.lsgov.us. after creating an account and select the LSPD: Staff Officer group as recipients. I’m aware of the common argument that nothing will be done. However, I want to point to the policy changes we implemented after the last round of a similar post/feedback (In May 2025), particularly following discussions with members of illegal factions Policy changes happened last time there was somewhat constructive feedback and after speaking to members of illegal factions. Because law enforcement roleplay comes with more "power/commands" we recognize people that are empowered should be held to a higher standard. It is for this reason we implemented special OOC policies on May 22nd to make this behavior punishable instead of just saying "gray area". This thread is public and I encourage anyone to report misconduct as described above. Of course, our command and leadership team is responsible for enforcing these policies and actively seeking out issues and then correcting them but like many of you, we have real-life responsibilities and are not online 24/7. That means we might miss things when we’re not around. This is where player reports become essential. At least on the LSPD side, if you witness rule-breaking, please report it. If you see something, say something (to me).

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There was no one person responsible, and there were no server rules broken so no action was taken; it was simply unfortunate circumstances - however it is now subject to discussion with HOLF regarding how to prevent similar situations from occurring in future. For transparency purposes, without getting into it in detail, it was a series of unfortunate events that lead to multiple large-scale shootouts and arrests in the one factions turf within the space of 30 minutes. It was all completely IC, however it caused already PK'd-to-LEO players to be PK'd more than once in said timeframe. It wasn't ideal. @Jamalio "I do not understand how hard is it for Management to grasp what Sneaky said above?!" - The point sneak is making, is my point. It's not one player, its factions as a whole be it illegal or legal that have a toxic view towards one another, and OOC motivations behind their actions. It's hard to address an atmosphere as we have no rules against not passing a vibe check, and the answer isn't just banning anyone we don't like unfortunately. I'm leaving this post open at the request of a member of PD leadership who'd like to weigh in. It'll likely be closed after that. I'm removing the finger pointing, if you're comments not here - it's because you're finger-pointing with nothing of value.

To clear things off, this formation has absolutely nothing to do with a basic traffic stop over a headlight violation, thats a felony stop so 9 times out of 10 they mistook you for a wrong suspect. It’s not just to “search you” we dont get extra lsrp tokens for taking your guns lmao

I do think it’s a bit of a culture thing. I’ve been in the PD for about half a year now, and from what I’ve seen, if we are in a pursuit, we will usually RP any collision—as long as the suspect being chased RPs it too. A lot of the time, however, the suspect just takes off and continues the chase instead of RPing the collision. It doesn’t even have to be a collision involving the PD. Many times, if we’re chasing someone, they’ll crash head-on into a wall, into traffic, or something else—collisions that should clearly be RPed. However, they just drive off, which I think is bad. Of course, a report should be made and people should be held accountable, but I think more often now the preference is: “Okay, you broke this rule, so we’ll break it too or do something else instead of reporting,” which isn’t great. If we’re talking about pursuits where suspects—or even PD officers—crash heavily into walls, innocent bystanders, or traffic, then yes, I absolutely agree these should always be RPed. I don’t really think there’s an excuse not to. You’re driving: if you make a mistake, even in a chase, you should drop out of that chase and RP the consequences of your driving. Personally, I always try to do this. Even if I’m far from the pursuit and crash head-on into an indestructible pole, I’ll drop out and RP it. This is just the basics of what the server is for, RP and everyone has to uphold a basic RP standard of this. Even yesterday, I was patrolling, SD was chasing somebody and their suspect head-on absolutely smashed my car, dragging it across the street. I stopped to RP it, I was not even involved in the chase as it was SD's chase. Did the suspect stop and RP it? No, he did not hesitate for a second to keep speeding away. I didn't report, nor did they, but maybe it should have been to hold people accountable. There have been a number of communications made towards us in the PD regarding realistic driving and RPing these situations. Personally, I haven’t seen anyone crashing into civilians and driving off. Of course, I’m only one person, so I can’t see everything, and I can’t comment on how common it really is. I think the best solution is simply to report and hold people accountable. I haven’t seen many reports about this recently, and if it is happening often, there should definitely be more reports on it.

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That's not my problem if you invested so much time. My stance is clear.

Clearly you've never joined the LEO faction before. You don't understand how much work and effort someone has to put in before joining the LSSD. They're regular players and they're prone to mistakes. Discharging them for not being perfect is silly especially given how much time they've dedicated.

Come on Sneaky, it's OK because they enjoyed it and they made a good yt video out of it! I stopped playing two weeks ago. Here is what I despise about this thread and it's replies, especially @badhbh's reply: 1. Pointing fingers at PD/SD. 2. Blaming PD/SD for the current server standards. 3. Relying on PD/SD to set the server standards. I was playing peacefully a year ago and it was way better than it is right now. This is someone who did parole roleplay which mostly did not involve law enforcing, unlike PD/SD. I do not understand how hard is it for Management to grasp what Sneaky said above?! Yeah, and I can say that I have 100% witnessed this server's management ruin legal roleplayer's motivation to even get on the server, not just RP. The players aren't to be blamed, legal, illegal, or even an admin. The blame entirely goes to management. I miss @ImperiumXVII

you mind sharing how the person responsible was handled, if they were at all? I'm not saying banning players will fix this (because we will be left without any players) and I'm not trying to make it about administrators BUT this behavior was non-existent in the past. Perhaps the administrators have been more easy-going with such players? There is more to this than LEO faction / illegal faction. And I agree with you, removing PD or SD will not change a thing. Multiple factors have contributed to this and the biggest of them all is that we're playing a SAMP server. I'll take the trolls and dmers any day if it means the community stays active because we've all seen how "quality over quanity" works out in the long run. The server doesn't have to be super hardcore, it's a game, just some parts that needs to be tightened up nothing else.

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The problem isn’t individual players, the problem is the general atmosphere of the entire server as a whole. following up on multitude of the comments here, I’ve personally tried to report several times with no good outcomes, for example 2 males armed with m4s came outta nowhere and decided to air out 7 deputies more or less on the spot just like that, when reports were casted the attack was ruled “justifiable” since the two males were apparently “helping” a male we had stopped. Regardless of administrative POV, allowing two randoms to just rail down 7 deputies with zero fear as if there’s zero consequence is not optimal. The endorsement if said attitude and not punishing it is what made players comfortable with killing cops like its nothing which results in majority of the subpar interactions we face today as PD/SD. And the situation i mentioned was only an example of what happens on a daily basis with bare consequences. Harsher repercussions are crucial for all parties. If the community believes LEOs went subpar for no apparent reason, well that was only an example of what we go through on a daily basis, this is also why not everything is reported, not all LEO rpers are going in game to spam ss and forum reports, they go in game to enjoy the game just like everyone else does, especially when reports aren’t met with expected outcomes that preserves an uphill motion towards a better par of roleplay. The issue is not PD/SD, the issue is serverwide. Raising the roof of what we believe is “heavy RP” is the solution i see for the issues addressed. Harsher punishments will eventually prompt a better flow of players, mentality, attitude, and much more.