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I’ve rped with both Bells and Marat. Even Bells was running with M4s during a defense in the middle of Downtown, however, PD patrols are focused on gang turfs rather than that, at this point, you can walk with an M4 out on the streets of downtown, but not in the alleyways of Crenshaw / Idlewood / El Corona and other bad areas.

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And the PD is not the brighest thing but weak RP of illegals does all that. Bells, Marat and before Barons were invved in illegal things for months so I have not once seen the PD camp on their turf or arrest them and shoot around. You want to kill people on the streets wherever you go for stupid reasons, to deal and transport drugs wherever you go, to walk and drive around rhe city eith heavy weapons and no one will do anything to you.

You said you are in SD, yeah? Maybe not banned, but I’ve alerted Scumpy about an SD member that initiated a pursuit on us that he saw our weapons through the rolled up windows, and he took the according measures within his structure. You guys are shielded however, if WE, as illegal roleplayers would do that? We’d be banned for 3rd party mods.

So not only are cops not providing roleplay but they're hacking too now? Crazyyyyy

Ticket? My faction and I were pulled over and told to step out of the vehicle to be searched when they’ve seen we had a shotgun or MP5 on us on multiple occasions, even though we’ve roleplayed them being covered. That stopped only when we’ve all bought insurance and they didn’t have a reason to make us step out anymore.

Aight no way you are saying turn off their wallhacks, tell me in the last year, how many PD/SD member got banned for cheating and how many idlerats got banned?

i think we've gone to a point of no return so the only thing I'm gonna ask of the people roleplaying police is to turn off their wallhacks i believe it's the other way around and I'm confident most of the server would agree(if any of them are left - I personally know ten plus people that've quit the server/gone inactive because of their daily encounters with bored police roleplayers)

For no reason? Come on.. These factions that pop up for a couple of weeks, maybe. But I doubt you see people from EHC, 38, Harlow just walking around with weapons. When we are on "defence", they are stored, placed, left on the ground - easy access.

I'm part of SD Aero Bureau and I can tell you 100% that people flex their guns for no reason not only EHC, 38th around EL Corona, Harlow behind IDLE GAS, Mallrats (trollers) in idlewood are running around with DEAGLES in hand for no reason

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No one is above the rules and regulations laid out, there are processes to report staff members and they’re taken seriously. I would like to see the information that’s been collated when it’s ready.

The thing is, the #1 issue is Kane and he's a lead developer and staff member. Are you seriously going to tell me you or n0de101 are going to do anything else but issue a stern warning?

I wish i could say he is, but he sadly isn’t. Thats what I’m trying to convey here, LEO factions are met with terrible standards of role play majority of the time and most of the time you have no idea of what happens to us everyday in game. Your concerns are understandable and valid and LSSD in particular has been trying to provide as much roleplay ad possible but it’s inevitable for faults to occur thanks to the overwhelming number of players on this server that proudly fly the “I’d rather shoot than go to jail” attitude with zero fear of LEO consequence at all. It all boils down to the fact that there were no punishments put down. I’d like to quote my original reply from the original topic as well to make it known and obvious that the definition of “poor reason to kill” is unfortunately very subjective as we have been indulged in several “suicide by cop” and “poor reason to kill” situations that were ruled out justifiable by this very current admin team. When LEOs dont find proper outcomes of reports its inevitable they’ll adapt and eventually stoop down to the level they see and meet everyday. I hope this sheds light on why we are in this situation now.

I'd encourage you to forward this casefile to myself and the Head of Legal Factions @n0de101

Not to mention, most of them roleplay like losing their job for stupid IC decisions, isn't on the cards, because it probably isn't lol

Most gang roleplayers would not do that, that's a stupid reason to kill.. Think you're exaggerating a bit. As for the shotgun/m4, I can only speak for EHC, but this happens rarely, only when we are at war and we feel people are going to be hit. They're roleplayed hidden, in bushes etc for easy access. Nobody wants to run inside their house to /takegun while their block is being lit up. It's realistic to roleplay having it close by.

I'd like to state I might be using PD too liberally, I am well aware LSSD is actually trying to create some RP with us and aren't as bad as their counterpart. Most of my complaints in the thread are directly against LSPD. Can't speak for other factions but we are at war with half the server and every other week a new faction beefs us. So, we need to stay on "defense". BUT, we always try to hide the guns realistically, put them under furniture, /spawn bags and /lg the guns under them, etc etc. but most of the times that does fuck all since LSPD just drives past once, and then 20 cruisers show up with a chopper, claiming they "spotted the gun". We in EHC are building a casefile and have logs going back since July. I personally haven't bothered contributing to this because in my experience, nothing ever changes on LS-RP since management is too complacent to hurt the LEO playerbase and thus it's always the illegal RPers that have to suffer under dog shit standards of RP. But I will make sure to log the next times this happens, if I can be bothered to hop in game at all anymore, since this is just demotivating for most of our senior members and myself. The big issue is: we can't roleplay on a roleplay server because LSPD is running around like this is a free for all DM server and both us and 59 Harlows and probably other factions can agree to this. I guarantee illegal factions put out 100x more RP than LSPD does in a night. We are told to roleplay characters and not stone cold killers, but I bet nobody in LSPD is familiar with the concept of developing a character. We are told to RP realistically, but Kane can come and check for bulges every night, surrounded by 5-10 ppl and get bodied every night. Oh, and PK rules don't apply to PD for some reason, they can just respawn and bother us again.

For everyones information: I've advised any faction member of the LSPD that wishes to comment on this topic they should state they play in the LSPD faction. I find this to be important when reviewing opinions because I think the mentality can vary from faction to faction. I can emphasize with your frustration but again I encourage you to report this in PM's to me if it's a member of the LSPD. (dark blue/black uniforms) It doesn't need to be an essay, a few words and a screenshot + the name of the person that's breaking rules is enough. Additionally just to illustrate the stop and search policies and play to win mentality is not something the LSPD leadership supports. You can read about internal restrictions here (it's public) (( Special Order No. 10-25 – Increasing the standard of roleplay and faction mentality - OOC Expectations )) I've received 0 reports so far (when I initially posted my statement on the topic that preceeded this) so please let us know. Another good point to which I want to clarify what framework is used. I've said this in the illegal faction discord but I'll say it again in the hopes of clearing up this issue. Please also note that we advise LSPD faction members to exercise discrection (ie. not inisting on seeing the firearms everytime when an issue arises) . consistency — 4/24/25, 9:01 AM one more thing that causes tensions that i'd encourage illegal factions leaders to make their members aware of is under Rule 3 - Powergaming, the explicit mention of when a weapon can be roleplayed seen (eg. during a traffic stop. Even if you've roleplayed hiding the weapon but have the weapon on you it can be roleplayed as seen and an admin will confirm this. You need to place the weapon. Los Santos Roleplay Server Rules

I agree with the start but unfortunately not all factions can have the same standards as honestly, most are made for a month of fun, shooting and then they close - happens all the time. But I again don't think that gives the PD the right to treat both factions the same. I know for a fact if there was a sensible approach between PD and EHC we could make it work and actually enjoy it.

We're actually tired of having to deal with this constantly. Your role sets the full example LSPD follows but you seem oblivious to this.

You should ask LFM for that I'm not the one who enforces those rules. He's part of SADCR and he can't roleplay security guard on duty and abuse SADCR weapons so yeah lessbo