Kev

In the same way you are unpaid volunteers, the people you speak of who have actively hacked, mass DMed, etc were also unpaid volunteers and arguably adding more positive contribution to the server while doing so - and maybe they were fed up of being treated like they were below every other sub team on this server. I speak for myself and IFT when I say that we have written up countless threads for script ideas, were moderating faction conflicts on a near daily basis at one point, handling faction reports (most of us being non-staff), handling schemes (some of the heads being non-staff), the list goes on. Nobody here is paid and we do this out of love for this community. I do think if Martin wants RAGE to do well then he should put some money up. GTAW has and look at their ROI. You can't expect to achieve this hypothetical dream outcome for free. I don't want to bash you because you are making an attempt to reason with the community, but I have to call out some of the bullshit in this response. You were on as long of a hiatus as Martin before coming out to address our concerns on this thread. I haven't seen anything of substance in this statement, no real accountability or game plan for rage. Maybe this is coming soon so we will wait. On the topic of cheating, I can tell you as someone who has dealt with faction conflicts before and after I started using them, the game feels much more balanced with them and it has been this way for over a decade. We can discuss the morality of it all day but it is not fun trying to locate someone, do a hit, evade law enforcement while they can see you from across the map and you can't see them - and people can only take the guaranteed loss so many times before they decide to even the playing field. If you as administrators installed nametags (I use that as an example because it is the easiest one to use in terms of spotting other nametaggers) and turned them on while on admin duty I guarantee you would catch at least 5 a day. I doubt anyone will admit it but the closet cheaters reading this will tell you that you can know instantly if someone is nametagging when you have them. I think I have been in more faction conflict than most on this server due to the nature of the factions I've ran over the years and let me tell you having a Mexican standoff between two hit cars from East Beach to Seville because both cars are nametagging has been quite the hilarious scenario. If you spent some time roleplaying this would all be common knowledge to you, but the fact that you can’t trust the judgement of your own administration and have unbanned blatant cheaters (the kind who don’t bother to hide their cheating, at least I kept it a secret…) as documented by @Clack shows that you are truly out of touch with how the server operates and it makes me question how you managed to rise to a management role. It's like the first rule of fight club we just don't talk about it. I don't blame anyone who uses them since there has never been an anti cheat measure to combat it, and most people who are banned for cheats nowadays can send in a staff report with a sob story and get off on a "benefit of the doubt" unban. So why would you not cheat?

Well thank you for finally making your delusions public. You think the community will just forget about the consistent fuck ups spanning over a decade and follow behind you? I hope you at least enjoy it.

I think the 14 pages we've spent discussing here could all be boiled down to this. Very well said. @n0de101 We are very much aware that you are volunteers and unpaid, and for all the shit I've been talking here I genuinely respect it. But that does not give you moral high ground when you are trying to chase after something that has already been monopolized. This is all we are trying to say here. Do you in your heart truly believe you can survive against an 800+ playerbase server with a script that is not ready and with the proven track record MMartin has of going MIA as he is right now?

Then don't call me a liar. The fact that it was 2 months ago is not really relevant when you haven't shown a rage snippet since then, so you clearly are still not "feature ready". This alone should give the community an idea of who's witholding information here.

If my information is wrong then please confirm you won't ban me so I can post screenshots here.

You are asking me a question where I cannot respond without being banned from the forums for leaking. Funny that this is how you respond too. Instead of challenging me why don't you tell the community what you are actually working on? How close are we to the release of rage and how good is it? Do tell.

From now on if you want to come and crusade for RAGE you should come and tell us what you spent your time doing on SAMP that makes you feel that it is dead in the water and that RAGE is the future. The only insiders that have come forward so far are Natasha Valentine who graced us with the monumental roleplay coming out of Valentine hotel over the years and a LEO roleplayer who's recent forum posts span back to July. I want to see credentials of what you actually roleplayed here or your opinion is simply invalid.

Could you elaborate? Because I remember being told there was no functioning plastic surgeon, drug script, etc 2 months ago. How superior is rage right now being an insider, could you enlighten us?

It’s quite ridiculous really that the exact same problems can repeat themselves 3 or 4 times and send more chunks of players away each time from 2021 to now. I fear that it’s badhbh attempting to formulate a response alongside the rest of management who don’t roleplay. Apart from her they have no idea what actually goes on in-game because they all roleplay robocop LEOs among themselves, so can you blame them for their lack of response here? I would love to see the insights from someone like bobster, node, Celestine, Izumi, dadoJ, etc about the roleplay that actually goes on here. I am not flaming, I mention the names because this is another concern people won’t say on this thread and I want to make it known. Really hoping we get a response soon because there is so much more that needs to be answered for, particularly extreme administrative corruption with a certain faction’s weapon warehouse.

@Antoine Gournier gonna miss u twin 😞

Don’t expect any staff member who supports rage to give any input. I only hope that leadership will take accountability in their response and not deflect.

Looks like someone with a brain made it visible again. Thank you. Let's now keep this thread on topic and wait for management to address our concerns. edit: For some reason the part in my post about LSRP not having a functioning anti cheat was removed by an admin. Everyone is aware of this already so could someone please tell me why this was edited out?

Funnily enough my post was hidden. @Martin_Busato you have a very clean heart my brother but the server will not survive with a regime like this. Seems like nothing will ever change.

Thank you @Martin_Busato for always staying pure and promoting the best roleplay with yours and your faction's efforts. With respect for you guys I won't troll or derail this thread, I'm only going to speak the truth and if it gets removed again then that's the only answer you need about what intentions management has for LSRP. And respect to @jack for being willing to hear us out. I was going to be a lot more brash with this post until I read you were formulating a response so I will hold off with some things until we see it. I do want to address some critical concerns I have with things I've seen since being staff again and I hope instead of hiding this you will address it in your reply. I speak with the experience of being in multiple generations of staff/IFT so please heed what I am saying. As Aloosh pointed out, most of the staff here are simply hogging their positions and doing nothing for the actual functioning server while waiting for rage which isn't even half way ready to be a playable server. From what we've seen, your only concept of marketing is saying "soonTM" to the 5 people a month who ask when it will come out while taking your sweet time with the development. 2 months ago, while I was staff I had asked in the rage discord channel when they would be executing their "marketing concept" (which was copy/pasted from ChatGPT) and the response I was given was "probably as soon as we are feature ready so there's actual stuff to show". Mind you they had already launched the server once, it flopped, and they've been back at the drawing board for over a year now... And to this day we haven't seen a single rage snippet. Upon being further questioned the dev said "if you'd join the server and help push development forward, you wouldn't need me to answer this question". I'm being very vague because I don't want another forum ban, if you want proof you can message me. I don't know what moral high ground this side of staff thinks they have when they neglect the server with players to "work" on a hypothetical lala land that isn't even half ready. I and many others cannot make any sense of it. What allowed LSRP to stand the test of time was the standard of illegal roleplay it provided compared to every other option, and the truth is that everyone still supporting the rage server is simply too bad at roleplay to do anything meaningful on the SAMP server. They don't know what it's like to spend hours upon hours grinding for official status in a faction surrounded by high-quality players. They don't know what an immersive roleplay scene really looks and feels like. When they get bored of dying to factions on their LEO characters they band together on alts to either create or join sub-par factions such as 38 street. They are bad and have always been bad at roleplay, they care more about updated graphics and gameplay and want their own little space to rub each other off on GTA 5 and get away from all the "elitists" on SAMP and GTAW. At least, this is the vibe that we - the people who have put countless graveyard shifts into LSRP's underworld economy - feel when we see things like this. I would also like the state of our current staff team to be addressed. Tester applications are nothing but a clout competition. Voting consists of nothing apart from "do I know him? Yes/no. Yes, he's in PD and he's so nice! He would be a great addition!". The question of whether these people know how to roleplay is never asked. Most of the dev team intentionally does not work on SAMP for rage, and yet it is nowhere near a standard to compete against GTAW. I think this is a very selfish mentality. You should be developing for the players who are going to populate your server. If you want to serve your own desires then leave our community and develop your own. We as a community have made it clear countless times what we truly want, and are being ignored every day by the development and management team. IFT have put hours of brainstorming into script ideas to accommodate credit card/bank fraud, testing kits, weed growing, etc etc and when it doesn't fall on deaf ears we have Kane ragebaiting us on the forums. These threads are in the IFT board collecting dust for over a year now. I can tell you with 100% confidence that 90% or more of the server was or is currently cheating, myself included. I've burned myself out over the years and have not truly enjoyed roleplaying for a long time. I'm sure I'll be permanently banned for the cheating I did as I've made some of it public and I have no desire to come back. I don't blame anyone who uses any hacks though. When everyone has the unfair advantage it no longer becomes an advantage, it only levels the playing field. There is a certain level of trust that you cannot afford to lose with your community when it comes to consistent fuck-ups, favoritism, and false promises. You lost our trust years ago when you tried to launch V the first time. You lost our trust when nothing in the UCP voting section has been worked on or implemented since it was added, while you remove all donator packages for some overpriced bundle. You're losing our trust again now by allowing the same thing that happened to the PB last year to happen once more. We are human and we are all getting older. We don't have the time to be giving out second chances to groups with terrible track records. I feel like it would take a miracle for you as management (apart from @badhbh, she is the only one that truly did anything meaningful for the server as management/lead admin since relaunch) to recover from that loss of trust, so instead of happy hoping I think its more realistic for us to start saying our goodbyes. If you want to play with the same 20 people on LSRPV then be my guest. I would advise anyone who wants to play GTA 5 roleplay to go to World. I had my fun, met a lot of really cool people, and can say I contributed a lot to the illegal scene with you guys. To give my thoughts on who could fill the position, I always respected Bennemus and how he handled his role while he was a lead admin. He was always extremely transparent and before the post-covid closure he truly tried his best. If he still has it in him he could be the one that potentially turns this around.

He was still in field training when this happened