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All Saints General Hospital is now hiring!

Mount Zonah is moving to recruitment on a rolling basis. You can apply at any time here.

Mount Zonah is hiring until August 31! Apply here.

Recruitment is open for new physicians! See full details here.

A few topics on our lsgov forum that those interested in the faction may find helpful: Character Development Expectations Frequently Asked Questions The second post was built off of many questions that I've received already. Answers are now in one centralized location. Further questions can be asked here or in the second link listed above.

Yes, there's an MDC system that allows us to track prescriptions and patient histories.

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I'm glad that you're interested in applying, but our recruitment is not open yet! Still have a few more things to finalize 🙂 Do apply when we open recruitment, though!

Once we gauge the server's general interest in the faction, we'll see how to expand next. If there's enough interest in people joining the faction, then we may open it up to nurses, but there are no plans or timeline to do that at this point. Don't fear roleplaying as a doctor. We have detailed guides on what to do in the situations you'll see. For those interested in more depth, we're also writing specific guides on specialties as well. But, there is no required outside knowledge you'll need to bring in. I'd definitely encourage you to apply as a Resident Physician!

There's information here (on the LSFD forums) about that! I will elaborate a little bit. We want to follow a realistic system, but there are a few constraints. There are no medical schools in-game (the last two years of med school are typically spent doing rounds in hospitals), so we simply ask that you RP that your character is in the 4th year of medical school and ready to apply for residencies. Now, you apply for residency through the AAMC - we roleplay that the application will be sent through that system. If you apply and are accepted, you will be asked to do an in-game interview. After that, you will do an examination and then training session before joining our staff. Those last few steps are for the sake of making sure you know how to some medical RP (at least according to the guides we provide) and do not reflect a realistic path toward residency. Yes, roleplaying a doctor was monotonous at times. I was not around in 2011, but some of the same problems existed in 2014 and beyond. A few things that I can say are that (1) creating new locations/interiors for roleplay were amazing for boosting our RP. We won't directly control this point, it requires the grace of the developers. When we redid ASGH (both times), it boosted RP. The chance for normal "domestic" RP, sharing camaraderie with fellow staff members, is facilitated by this as well. When we opened the pathology center, we packed that place with normal medical RP (check-ups, STD checks, blood tests, infections, minor injuries). (2) Hosting events creates RP. We had a fundraiser for cancer, for example, that allowed some white collar RP opportunities for our staff beyond just medical RP. Hosting other events like blood drives boosted fun competition among the legal factions and gave us new opportunities for RP. Advertising vaccination clinics or check-ups also brought in many players. (3) We need an interested player base. This point goes for both staff and for patients. If people don't want to do hospital RP (pre-hospital is mundane enough for some), not much we can do about that; however, if we advertise ourselves and have nice locations to RP in, we can have some fun. We will not control registration with non-LSFD physicians. Becoming a doctor is through the state, so the city faction should not have any interaction with that either. As LordSpyx explained above:

US-RP for me

Will y'all do in-game liturgies or just general church roleplay? I'm also unfamiliar with the juridical organization of the Eastern Catholic Church. Would, for example, the Eastern Catholic Church fall under the jurisdiction of the local Roman-rite bishop or does it fall under a separate system of Metropolitans/Bishops in the Eastern rite?

I'd like to eventually, yes. Right now, we have a number of specialties and more focused fellowships ready for members to participate in. One of those is Clinical Psychiatry, but there are currently no people in that specialty. Those who join or transfer can decide to focus on psychiatry. As for point two, I decided to go with private hospital for a few reasons. First, my personal knowledge of and limited experience with hospitals in Los Angeles are Cedars-Sinai and Keck USC. Lacking a university to attach the hospital to, I decided to model the faction after the former. I have even less knowledge about public hospitals in LA. Second, it reiterates the point that we are fully independent from the LSFD on an in-character level. State-run hospital under the LSFD faction can perhaps blur that line. Third, all of the best hospitals in the greater Los Angeles area are private hospitals. Even those associated with University of California medical schools have private institutions (UCLA Ronald Reagan is private, Olive View-UCLA and Harbor-UCLA are public; UCI Medical Center seems to be private).

Thank you! Thank you for allowing me to clarify this point. We provide just hospital care. We do not go into the field. We have no plans to interact with a private ambulance service at this point. The LSFD will bring patients to us. Let me explain further: I am modeling the hospital faction after Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. They are a non-profit, privately-run hospital in the Los Angeles area. While they are private, they still receive NIH funding for things like drug trials, research grants, and public health awareness campaigns. Cedars-Sinai also has a level 1 trauma center/emergency department in Beverly Hills. California law dictates that in a life-threatening emergency, ambulances - LAFD and private - must take patients to the nearest hospital that can handle their case (in less emergent cases, ambulances can give patients a choice of hospitals). Furthermore, Cedars-Sinai and other private and public institutions have worked with the LAFD on things like Advanced Provider Response Units - LAFD ambulances also staffed with a Nurse Practitioner. I don't know about the idiosyncrasies of this system - I could be mistaken, but I believe in general the LAFD does take patients to Cedar-Sinai's ED. I say all of this to demonstrate that a private hospital does not have a hard line around it that prevents any interaction with the government. I intend to follow this model with the hospital faction: non-profit with government interaction. If this does, however, bring up issues of liability on an IC level, I would not be objected to modeling the faction after a public hospital in LA or doing a contract with the LSFD to allow them to send patients our way. As of right now, there are no official hoops to jump through. I'm working on crafting as realistic a system we can expect on LS-RP that is still accessible to players. We've already got a prescription system and patient records system implemented in the script - one of the reasons why us being part of the LSFD on an OOC level is optimal. We're private only on an in-character level.

Thank you :)

Going to RP as a doctor!

Thank you for your feedback - I like the idea of having a public guide for common ailments! Thank you. I know the gov seems to be focusing more on municipal leadership rather than state, but I'd certainly appreciate throwing in a department of health. That'd create another level of realism and create more roleplay opportunities. I don't know if we will have access to that sort of system in-game, but we have in the past - and will continue to - keep track of the medical records of all of the players we interact with on our forum. That way, we can continue to track patient progress, confirm patient records for LEOs where they may need them, etc. Yep - our patient records include a form for tracking primary care like checkups. It's something we tried to lean more heavily in the later years by creating locations like the Pathology Center at CGH with primary care rooms. We could roleplay checking on things like minor injuries, testing for STDs, or even general wellness checks. Some of the interiors we're looking at have similar concepts. At any rate, we'll definitely have the option for roleplaying primary care medicine. You know it! On these points about GSWs, I'll be honest: it did pose an issue for HS back in the day. People would get bored. We were able to start to take care of this problem by letting doctors do (unrealistic) things like patrolling in our blue "Delta" units or tagging along with the pre-hospital sector in ambulances. As we phased those practices out, we brought in new ones like using the pathology center and renovating our hospitals to create more variety. While I agree with LordSpyx that each GSW and each player has its idiosyncrasies, it can be repetitive. Sure, some people were interested in roleplaying extensive organ damage, injuries to the spine, or going into cardiac arrest, but many wouldn't. That's why we allowed, in many cases, players to NPC their injuries' recoveries with "Dr. Smith." A simple /do, and boom - the patient was fixed. That's always been allowed - it's not novel. When we disallowed this practice, we made faction members and players unhappy. I intend to allow skipping hospital roleplay, but I also like the suggestion of allowing abbreviated hospital RP. That'd be a happy medium. With that said, some GSWs were fun to work with, but those who did not want to participate made the experience boring for everyone involved. For sure! Car crashes, for example, provide ample RP for firefighters, paramedics, and hospital staff. The situation's resolution may take a long time to roleplay - off putting for many - but actually roleplaying these sorts of things create dynamic situations for everyone. Thank you for your feedback!

As you may remember, on the SA-MP Server, there was an opportunity to roleplay with hospital staff at All Saints, County General, and some other locations as time went on. I'm happy to say that this type of roleplay will be carried over to the GTA V server. Here is what we have determined so far: On an in-character basis, we will have a private, independently-run hospital. We're still finalizing which location we will be using in-game. On an out-of-character basis, we will be in the same faction as the LSFD. This set up is to give us access to a stable forum and in-game faction. We are, however, an independent sub-faction within the LSFD and independent of their rank structure. On that note, we're following a somewhat similar format to the LSFD before 2016 which had a two-sector system: (1) EMT/Firefighter and (2) Hospital. However, during that time, the faction allowed for the unrealistic practice of characters who were both firefighters and doctors. That will no longer be the case; instead of two sectors within the LSFD, it is now going to be two factions: the LSFD main faction and the hospital sub-faction, with separate rank structures, leadership, and roleplay locations. We will allow only physician characters to join. Our rank structure essentially follows a realistic medical path: Intern, Resident, (possible, but not necessary promotion:) Chief Resident, (possible, but not necessary promotion:) Fellow, Attending Physician, Deputy Chief of Medicine, and Chief of Medicine. While a Deputy Chief of Medicine rank generally does not exist in real life, we want to be able to assemble a small team for the hospital faction's leadership and maintain the separate supervisory rank of Attending Physician. While the Chief of Medicine is the leader of the hospital faction, only on an OOC basis, the Chief of Medicine answers to the Fire Chief. For in-character purposes, the Chief of Medicine answers to a (non-existent) Board of Directors - basically, a RP name for being answerable to someone above the Chief of Medicine. I will be the Chief of Medicine. I was involved in hospital roleplay off and on between 2014 and 2018 and was in charge of the LSFD's hospital sector and sub-sector for good chunks of time. We have no plans to have ordinary "hospitalist" doctors or nurses at this point. Those will be NPCs for roleplay purposes. We aim to strike a balance between realism and ease of access for players. We are not trained medical professionals in real life. We have a series of guides that were used before (and have now been updated) that I believe puts a fair balance between realism and ease of access for the player base. There is only a small learning curve for those who want to join the faction, but you can join with literally zero knowledge of anatomy and still do just fine as a member of the faction. We have relatively simple guides and a wealth of information for our faction members. The hospital sector was most successful on SA-MP when there were events that brought people into the hospital. This included the disaster events, LSFD-hosted blood drives, fundraisers, or advertisements for general checkups. Excluding disaster events (we obviously have no say on that), we do plan on eventually hosting similar events to draw interest to the faction. We want to create a faction that is fun for faction members and for general players. In some cases, most of the work that we would do on SA-MP was treating gunshot wounds or handling people begging for medication because they were affected by the script's addiction system. How exactly that trend will change is up to you, the player base: what is it that you want to see from the hospital faction? If you were previously involved in hospital roleplay on the SA-MP server and are interested in participating, do reach out to me as well! We also have information on the sort of recruitment we will be doing on the LSFD forums if you are interested in reading more.