Lovebug11

I think it's more important to help new players meet people and factions to play and grow in. Who cares if a bartender is a poor RPer? He/she will pick it up by themselves as time goes on. Faction members can help eachother out. But no, most people are afraid of looking like a noob if they play with new players. Instead of welcoming them, they just get rejected. What this server needs is more guns and drugs and a lot of screenshots for the forums, apparently. Look how toxic some of the community is? It's only a few posts above where Remmy was gaslighting me for feeling unwelcome. Great place to have fun this is.

I tried this with Melissa Garcia. You see how it ended? Handholding works the best if it's other players doing it rather than staff taking them through some "tutorial". Then again, you need to have some OOC sense in this. For example, not CKing the people you play with for bringing a new person with them. Or allowing "bad" RPers a job in your faction to teach them how RP works.

I said RPing a trigger-happy character does not encourage roleplay. He shits on my character by making weird statements like the last one he made. That doesn't represent my character at all. I provided feedback on the server. I said that it's good, but some people are the problem. He wanted to know why people quit so I answered. Also if you read his post you can read that I did DM him right after the fact. He wasn't very keen on communications, though. I don't think you're a forum admin or involved in this situation so I don't see why you bother commenting on it. I wish you the most of fun RPing in Scandalouz house.

You're not exactly being an invitation to the server right now.

I am answering his questions to why I left the server. That's what the thread is about.

"2) For better or worse, the entire situation /started/ from your character dwelving into someone's privacy. Whereas you character's actions weren't intentionally malicious, they have kickstarted a wave of violence. ** The entire thing might as well have been OOC-ly coordinated on behalf of external parties, but given that I/we don't have a single shred of evidence to back-up our claims and/or do anything about it, the only option for me, as a mere community member, is to carry on In-Character." My character merely unlocked a phone, that was all. A phone your character threw around. Then you did a /do of the background in the middle of a club, making it prone to MG. Basically this is what initiated the CK, my character unlocking your phone. Again; you're not reasonable OOC. You are well aware of the MG involved, yet you still want to CK my character. Of course I will not agree with this? "5) With all this in mind, and going back to 1) - While I took absolutely no OOC pleasure in doing this, nor had any desire to do it, I felt like it was a thing that my character should and would do in their rage, bloodlust and desire for vengeance. Everyone who had anything to do with the character from 1) being killed (who was of great value to my own) was getting at the wrong end of a gun. Unfortunately, and given 1) again - this included your character. ** This is where it gets interesting. Let's recap and look at the facts. First you signed an OOC agreement, then your character got killed/CKed, then your reaction to this entire situation was log off the server, log into discord, remove your "CK agreement" from our discord server, and then hop into my DMs with more drama. You accuse me for being angry OOC and what-not. Do I /really/ need to post screenshots from our Discord chat about the situation and let the people decide who was the angry one, and who wasn't? ** I was actually more than willing and hopeful that you would rejoin the faction in some way on your new character, because we all enjoyed roleplaying with you, but that was prior to you giving your WORD, and then BACKTRACKING on it when it was no longer convenient for yourself and your own, "mixing" interests." You had no desire to CK Isa. So why do it? Because your character is a trigger happy killer? I'm not sure how well this is for roleplay in the server. You knew that Isa had no bad intention IC, you even aknowledged it. There is simply no reason to get rid of a character that doesn't need to be disciplined. Besides that, if you wanted to take it all IC, she didn't even have to die. He could also just threaten her or something like that. Being trigger happy leaves no space for banter and fun anymore. In the end it is a mass MG situation. You claim there was no evidence but you and Delaney stopped the investigation before it was finished. That's not on me. It was you who closed the report and said it was no longer needed. Where was my say in this? Since my character is apparently on the line too? As for being angry? I was really disappointed. In the situation a little heated, but I think I was considerate to you and trying to explain to you that what you're doing isn't very clever. You basically just made the worst deal in the history of trade deals. Why would I be interested in rejoining the faction? You screwed me over OOC. You betrayed me and you didn't show a drop of respect or understanding. You just hoped I would so you could have your way and not lose a player. Maybe even do it again. "And last but not least... 6) Not only you have dissed my faction in this textwall of bullshit, but the quality of construction of my very own character as well, so: ** Like I did about the faction, I advise you to open a report and deal with the situation as you should, as opposed to trying to publicly slander me on subjective charges. I've a crystal clean administrative record from years and dare say have done more to create role play than you. ** Since you want to ride such a high horse and are so eager to diss the quality of factions, characters and people, I raise you this: *** If you're such a great role player, why did you get all up in your feelings OOC about losing your pretty-little-snowflake and quit the server over it, as opposed to just namechanging and continueing to roleplay, like roleplayers do. It's never pleasant losing a character, but part of the beauty of quality roleplaying is that your faith doesn't rest entirely in your hands OOCly and other people are involved. *** If you're such a great person, why did you give your /word/ and agreement to not only me, but 15 other people as well, and then instantly backed out of it the moment it was no longer convenient for you? " I merely said your character seems to be some serial killer type of psycho. In your post above you said that OOC you felt bad but your character didn't. (Implying he's a sociopath) and then followed by "I felt like it was a thing that my character should and would do in their rage, bloodlust and desire for vengeance." Which is very much psycho behavior if that is what you do for someone unlocking a phone, not knowing the background was some blowjob photo. One that also wasn't very clear. "*** If you're such a great role player, why did you get all up in your feelings OOC about losing your pretty-little-snowflake and quit the server over it, as opposed to just namechanging and continueing to roleplay, like roleplayers do. It's never pleasant losing a character, but part of the beauty of quality roleplaying is that your faith doesn't rest entirely in your hands OOCly and other people are involved." I'm here to have fun and develop a character. If that development gets ruined so easily by people who are trigger-happy then I am not interested in retrying and getting killed for poor reasoning again. Why would it not happen a second time? Also you banned me from the faction for not getting your way. *** If you're such a great person, why did you give your /word/ and agreement to not only me, but 15 other people as well, and then instantly backed out of it the moment it was no longer convenient for you? " I gave my word because I trusted people OOC not to abuse the power of it. I expected people to be reasonable. My character had no malicious intent and the whole CK serves no purpose to anything. I don't know why the PK/CK was so important to you with my character having minor involvement into any of the drama. She didn't even know most of the people involved. And of the day there were only losers in this situation. LSRP lost a player, I lost my character and you gained nothing? So I was really confused why this was neccessary. Also, no need to write such long posts about the faction. The faction isn't the reason why I left. Just you and your childish and aggressive behavior.

@SCANDALOUZwhat the hell do y'all want, and what the hell is your problem? What the hell have you not gotten? Hi, as a player who left (I got linked this thread) I think I'm the perfect person for asking these questions to. I joined the server with the goal of developing a character. I had limited time and preferred to spend my time RPing a civilian and hanging out with people. Some of you might know me as Isabella DelViento. A character who was often around and despite her "angry" attitude still quite approachable and entertaining. Scandalouz personally invited me to join the server and his faction, and after being reluctant at first due to limited time IRL, I decided to give it a try. Upon creation of my character I had issues to edit changes. The character creation wasn't the best, neither was it bad. I just had a rough time editing my character's appearance. But with the help of a patient and friendly tester and the reintroduction of the character customization it all got solved. Weeks went by and whenever I had time I tried to fill the Pit Stop as well as other clubs and bars in the server. I met many people and truly had a great experience. I developed a character who actually had friends and things to do IC. While spotting random people in bars, I sometimes try to include them in the ongoing RP. I often see groups having fun in bars while someone sits alone but doesn't really RP anything. I feel like including those players in the ongoing RP is the best way to teach them to play and have them stick around the server longer. Time went on, the Pit Stop discord got bigger. What went from a "nice club of car enthousiasts who don't want to do cringy racing and provoking of police" grew into a full blown criminal organisation. There was cooperation with other illegal factions. A gun and drug scheme. Suddenly I was told to sign a CK clause. I was confused why, since my character is merely a visitor of your bar. She did not have anything to do with any of the illegal stuff going on. After being tagged in the thread 3 or 4 times, I decided to just check it as read. My assumption about the faction and you people was that you'd have some OOC understanding for eachother. I'm here to play a game in a friendly environment and it seemed to be that way. Time went on, 5 hours later my character was dead. You even agreed with me that my character didn't have any malicious intent. The whole situation was MGd. You even reported all of this on the forums. Having a reasonable conversation with you was impossible. Your statement was: "I acted the way my character would IC." You roleplay a poor character, the whole point is that it's meant to be some funny troll character who is some sociopathic murderer. I don't know what the server rules are here, but this is very poor reasoning. You indirectly claim that you CK my character because your character has a mental problem. To me that is deathmatching. This is why I wondered if there was any rule against RPing serial killers and the like of them. I refused to take a CK. I rather had the situation voided, since everything was based on MG. You got so angry OOC and banned me from the faction and immediately tried to portray me as a bad person in the discord. To me it felt ironic that you set up the CK clause, with yourself and Harry as the person to speak to. Yet both of you were involved in the situation. You're the judge and the jury. What was the result of this? You PK'd me from the faction and banned me from everything related to oversteer. This is basically the whole server? You knew this and this is the "power" you get off to. I thought you were a genuine person who wanted to do the best for the server, but it turns out all you want is power. The condescending way you talk to people in this thread explains it all. The last few weeks before I quit LSRP, I was online daily. So you're missing one player per day just because of that. I never had issues with anything else in the game, just you. @Tungsten Yes, your argument "it's just a game" is a very valid and important point. We are here to have fun. I had fun developing a character and that fun was taken from me for absolutely no reason. I think as a faction leader, especially somebody who writes forum topics like these, some OOC responsibility, kindness and empathy goes a long way. It is just a game, but one I enjoyed playing the way I did. I lost my character and all the development that went into her over a reason that was poor, even if the massive MG wasn't involved. To sum it up: "what the hell do y'all want, and what the hell is your problem? What the hell have you not gotten?" what the hell do y'all want: To develop a character, socialize in game. and what the hell is your problem? My character was DMd and "banned" from the faction I had most of my RP with What the hell have you not gotten?: Respect from the faction leader, you.