A VISION FOR THE FUTURE (PART II): How LSRP can thrive, not just survive

[pelaja]

Question for OP; who would be the better managers that community could vote for?

 

@Martin_Busato

Edited 9 hours ago by pelaja

[Howard1]

The main thing y’all need to understand is that GTA SA is a dead game. Kids nowadays don't run home from school to hop on LSRP and roleplay. A lot of you are stuck in the past, remembering when we used to rush out of class to play SAMP. Well times have changed kids today do that but for games like Fortnite.

 

Let the nostalgia go. Open your arms to something better RAGEMP is the future!

 

 

[onenightinshanghai]

I'm trying to spit some facts here and I genuinely hope I won't get banned for what I'm going to say. And I still believe that honest advice is hard to hear but beneficial; good medicine tastes bitter but cures the disease, and the reason why I type this out cause I love this community. I'm sure we, the people who posting shit under the thread do to cause we could've just watched it dying slowly without giving two fucks. 

 

The current management team is composed of backstabbers who took over the server from our beloved DamianC, back then the admin team genuinely had connections with the players, they really CARED about us and treated us like friends, one hand washes another and both wash the face. Countless funny events, I remember one time one member passed away and the admin team organised a campaign so our community member can be remembered in a special form together, that's how admin team making connections with players instead of taking their donation money without feeding anything back to the server! But later? Things changed upside down. Looking back, we find that every management team has had its share of mistakes, scandals, opacity, and corrupt administrators. Frank Krane N krisk, opaque IFM and the list goes on and on but why we would love to come back to play like it's a recycle? Cause it's all about the people around us, the e friends you made along the way. The script doesn't matter at all, all you need is imagination and be able to think outta the box. Roleplay is basically the same no matter whether you got a sick ass script coming straight from 2050 or the same shit from 2010. [Marijuana 100] and Marijuana - 28.0g (Large) doesn't make no different in game at all. The reason why lsrp kept bringing us back is the nostalgia and the friends with you, also the trust-worthy SAMP server with its undeniable reputation. It has always been the heavy text roleplay based server on SAMP.

 

We also love the old LS-RP cause the old wild wild west style, the community itself gatekept the concept heavily so it fosters you to get better, otherwise you'd get roasted daily. If you can't get better, you might just move on to a whole brand new concept yourself. If you can't adapt the community's toxic enviornment, you can move along too. There were barely any snowflakes on Skype, forum, but nowadays everything changed. You can't talk bad about anyone otherwise a forum ban coming your way. Testers / Admins also losing their ability to justify whether the suggestions are useful or not, they just shut everything down like it's a community country like China / North Korea. It's really bad for the community. Cause it's players made the community, players are the voice.

 

And in the end, I wanna say it's not about the marketing. You wanna promote things on Myspace or Facebook? It's long gone, SA-MP is long gone. Have fun while it lasted as you can, cause once you type in 'LS-RP' on youtube, only deathmatch videos would pop out and it's a bad root. Cause it only attracts DMers. The new generations don't give a single fuck about SA-MP heavy text based roleplay, they all getting attracted by those FiveM voice server, the hardcore heavy text based period has long gone. This time I'm bringing GTA:World up so you can clearly see the difference between two servers, LS-RP got some die hard hardcore roleplayers while GTA:World has become a light roleplay server. This is the trend. I'm afraid LS-RP would end like that way as well. I'm sure we all hitting 25s or 30s, this generation's player base would only decrease. So give it a last shot, mass unban or selectively unban a certain people. We finna beat on the dead horse again, give it a one last go.

 

Also you really think LS-RP:V is a good idea? Come on. We all knew what happened since the last grand openning, it went downfall, we could've hardly hit 50 after the first month. It's not attracting any new players since the old ones always stuck on the GTA:World. Come on management team, do something. We love this community that's why we'd let our voice out. Like I said, we could've walked away without giving a damn but we still chose to speak out. Cause we love this community and we don't wanna see it's dying out.

[jack]

6 hours ago, gstandard23 said:

Unless management participates in these kind of threads, they render useless. Last thread was 8 pages with not a single comment from management (Oh my bad, they had one post saying not to doxx or flame or whatever and then closed it). The vets can toss ideas and reflect until next month but without management actively responding to them, which doesn't seem like they plan on doing, it's pointless.

10 minutes ago, Joaquin_Lara said:

Still not a single response from any upper management between this thread and the last thread. LSRP staff is clearly cooked, empire is dead. 

 

Just on these points about no one from leadership responding. We want to allow open conversation to happen, the last thread blew up quick and then descended into what it was, didn't give us a real chance to respond properly and spent the time firefighting instead.

 

This ones been open for nearly a day and thankfully hasn't spiralled. I'm currently reading what's been said in this thread and collating a response, so we can converse and be transparent, staff team to the players. Give me a little bit of time and you'll have a response within a few hours.

[tradition keeper]

This server needs another pandemic. 

[Martin_Busato]

5 hours ago, pelaja said:

Question for OP; who would be the better managers that community could vote for?

 

@Martin_Busato

Given how far the server has fallen and with many capable people leaving for various reasons over the years, there's no question finding a suitable leader is a tall task. What I would like to see is a proven, respected, experienced leader and roleplayer who brings forth a vision that the community will rally behind; a uniter and strong team-builder who is willing to put the community's interests ahead of their own, meaning compromising their own personal desires for the greater good and reinvesting donation money into improving the server instead of lining their own pockets. They need to be taking the job out of their love for LSRP.

In my mind, it doesn't have to be a current or former administrator because many of the most capable people for this position have never had the desire to climb the staff ranks due to the menial tasks involved and would rather focus on roleplaying, but they may have interest in a monumental position like this where they can focus on big picture solutions that brings life back to LSRP. 

No matter who it is—whether they have prior LSRP staff experience or not—they will have strengths and weaknesses, so they will need to be an effective delegator who can keep the ship moving in the right direction. They certainly don't need to treat it like a full-time job but they do need to be available regularly enough to oversee the operation properly and engage with the community.

I don't know who would be interested but I'm confident an opportunity like this may bring some old legends out of the woodwork. Whoever's track record and proposal best meets this criteria would get my vote.

 

I greatly appreciate the discussion so far and  understand morale is low right now but must say I do question the intentions behind some of the "LSRP SAMP is dead, stop beating a dead horse" type of comments. If that's your opinion, fine, but what are you doing here? I don't think anyone here believes we can return to the golden age of LSRP when it was regularly hitting 500+ players, but we can improve upon the current state of the server and make it a great place to roleplay once again. With the right leadership, vision, and teamwork, we can make a new golden age that looks a little different, albeit on a smaller scale. It is possible, but the negative, defeatist, apathetic mindset I'm seeing in some of these posts doesn't help the cause.

Edited 4 hours ago by Martin_Busato

[DCF]

Why are posts still being removed? If the staff team wants us players to trust them, then you should return the favor by trusting us. This is not the way to go.

Edited 3 hours ago by DCF

[jack]

11 minutes ago, DCF said:

Why are posts still being removed? If the staff team wants us players to trust them, then you should return the favor by trusting us. This is not the way to go.

 

Whatever posts are being deleted / removed do not have any value being in this thread. Time and time again we have said we do not want this thread derailed. One post was trying to relate this on the actions of Napoleon in 1812. It's simply added noise.

[Wiser]

I'll try to mention a few words as an player since 2008.
LSRP has always been the soul of all heavy RP communities. Every other community that was established was under the inspiration of LSRP, by grace and not by merit.

The last playerbase crash was severe for several reasons, in which both management and players played a part. It started with toxicity between the players and the rivalry getting out of hand.

Now for the main point and the rather critical reason, which is the leadership. Where the hell are you Mmartin? The donations died down, and that's not even an interesting topic, but as the symbol of LSRP, you should have been here during these times too. I feel that the current leadership is operating and choosing the community's "settings" according to their own private needs, not to serve the community. Only those close to the plate are chosen and enjoy the benefits.

- These discussions feel like a stuck video to me, and every time there's disappointment with the outcome. I hope this time there will be a significant change that can restore this dismal situation.

Peace out, fays3l #FreeEveryone

[Tsui]

5 minutes ago, Martin_Busato said:

Given how far the server has fallen and with many capable people leaving for various reasons over the years, there's no question finding a suitable leader is a tall task. What I would like to see is a proven, respected, experienced leader and roleplayer who brings forth a vision that the community will rally behind; a uniter and strong team-builder who is willing to put the community's interests ahead of their own, meaning compromising their own personal desires for the greater good when necessary and reinvesting donation money into improving the server instead of lining their own pockets.

In my mind, it doesn't have to be a current or former administrator because many of the most capable people for this position have never had the desire to climb the staff ranks due to the menial tasks involved and would rather focus on roleplaying, but they may have interest in a monumental position like this where they can focus on big picture solutions that brings life back to LSRP. 

No matter who it is—whether they have prior LSRP staff experience or not—they will have strengths and weaknesses, so they will need to be an effective delegator who can keep the ship moving in the right direction. They certainly don't need to treat it like a full-time job but they do need to be available regularly enough to oversee the operation properly and engage with the community.

I don't know who would be interested but I'm confident an opportunity like this may bring some old legends out of the woodwork. Whoever's track record and proposal best meets this criteria would get my vote.

 

I greatly appreciate the discussion so far and  understand morale is low right now but must say I do question the intentions behind some of the "LSRP SAMP is dead, stop beating a dead horse" type of comments. If that's your opinion, fine, but what are you doing here? I don't think anyone here believes we can return to the golden age of LSRP when it was regularly hitting 500+ players, but we can improve upon the current state of the server and make it a great place to roleplay once again. With the right leadership, vision, and teamwork, we can make a new golden age that looks a little different, albeit on a smaller scale. It is possible, but the negative, defeatist, apathetic mindset I'm seeing in some of these posts doesn't help the cause.

 

Yes.

 

And consider expanding roles for trusted members of the community that are elected and chosen by the community to represent them without strings and powers attached beyond that, like administrative powers etc.  It is obvious at this point that the current system breeds yes men.  Look what happened to Aloosh's comment on the previous thread and the subsequent comment from admin's discord that leaked shortly after. Consider it a court jester role. Somebody needs to spill the truth without feeling compelled to hold back because of some sort administrative role or whatever.

 

[Jugers]

Dont want neither to invtest too much time responding to this thread but neither troll it. Will drop just few lines.

 

I find it funny how the admins favorite's (legal faction members) were the first to abandon the ship called LSRP and even claim admin positions in other servers when the same admins who did favor them and the elitists groups in the servers pushed away many SERIOUS and good factions (Bastards MC, Bellomo) because it took literally months for a backdoor of a buisness to get added or for a business change of location. And then we got people like clack packer bonekrusher etc, who might have trolled once 1 year ago and broke ROE getting hunted and punished as its their fault the server is declining and they are the ones pushing new players away. Yet these people are dropping their last cents here still, when noone else does. Says a lot about the community love of this server and sadly says a lot about managment point of view.

 

As for people thinking they can compete vs the competition at GTA V, just remind yourself how many LSRP competitors were popping on and off back in the day (even in 2025) and their ending. Its complete nonsense. Focus on SAMP, dont even compare it to GTA V because the experience is different and we dont play SAMP because we cant run V but because SAMP is a different experience all together.

 

 

FREE THE TURKS

FREE BLUEBERRY

FREE THE POPE

FREE THE RGANG

FREE LSRP

FREE THE COUSINS

[Pags.]

 

The blunt truth is all products decline eventually.

 

However, you can stave off decline via:

• Improvement - Faster, cheaper, nicer, easier to use
• Refreshing things - New design, new packaging, new features
• Find new users - Different group or for a new purpose 
• Reposition the server - Change the story about why it matters

What doesn't work:

• Shouting louder and marketing the same product
• Pretending decline isn't happening 

Claiming something is still good because it used to be is a risk. You either fix it properly with a clear deadline, or shut it down and move on. Dragging it out only wastes people's time. 

 

Something that can bind people together is a clear vision. Clearly explain how LS-RP's SAMP future can beat RageMP. If that's not clear, then people won't stay. Either produce a believable roadmap that gives players a real reason to choose here over there, or accept the answer the market has already given and step aside. 

 

I've got nothing but love for this server and community, I hope the management team gather the feedback and figure it out.