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Just tough to really see that seeing as though I’ve been personally suspended on my main forum account for putting input in on the last thread and I am now banned from LSRP discord and IFC Discord for input similar to this thread. Frustrating and exhausting having to put a point and getting blowback from it. @n0de101unban my main forum account @risen unban my discord on ifc @imunzi unban my discord from lsrp

Mass unban, save the server. It's controversial, it's scary, it's bold. However, look at Napoleon, his decision to invade Russia in 1812 was a massive gamble. It was risky, it was scary, but it was an attempt to shift the course of history. He didn’t play it safe, the boldness itself showed the kind of leadership that left a mark on history. In WWII, the Allies didn’t hold back with decisions like D-Day. It was a terrifying, high-risk maneuver, but it was necessary to turn the tide of the war. If they’d played it safe, the outcome could’ve been very different. Sometimes, a scary move is the only thing that gets results when the situation is desperate. It's time to act now. This is the revolution. Friday night, 13 players online. Do it.

Just on these points about no one from leadership responding. We want to allow open conversation to happen, the last thread blew up quick and then descended into what it was, didn't give us a real chance to respond properly and spent the time firefighting instead. This ones been open for nearly a day and thankfully hasn't spiralled. I'm currently reading what's been said in this thread and collating a response, so we can converse and be transparent, staff team to the players. Give me a little bit of time and you'll have a response within a few hours.

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I'm trying to spit some facts here and I genuinely hope I won't get banned for what I'm going to say. And I still believe that honest advice is hard to hear but beneficial; good medicine tastes bitter but cures the disease, and the reason why I type this out cause I love this community. I'm sure we, the people who posting shit under the thread do to cause we could've just watched it dying slowly without giving two fucks. The current management team is composed of backstabbers who took over the server from our beloved DamianC, back then the admin team genuinely had connections with the players, they really CARED about us and treated us like friends, one hand washes another and both wash the face. Countless funny events, I remember one time one member passed away and the admin team organised a campaign so our community member can be remembered in a special form together, that's how admin team making connections with players instead of taking their donation money without feeding anything back to the server! But later? Things changed upside down. Looking back, we find that every management team has had its share of mistakes, scandals, opacity, and corrupt administrators. Frank Krane N krisk, opaque IFM and the list goes on and on but why we would love to come back to play like it's a recycle? Cause it's all about the people around us, the e friends you made along the way. The script doesn't matter at all, all you need is imagination and be able to think outta the box. Roleplay is basically the same no matter whether you got a sick ass script coming straight from 2050 or the same shit from 2010. [Marijuana 100] and Marijuana - 28.0g (Large) doesn't make no different in game at all. The reason why lsrp kept bringing us back is the nostalgia and the friends with you, also the trust-worthy SAMP server with its undeniable reputation. It has always been the heavy text roleplay based server on SAMP. We also love the old LS-RP cause the old wild wild west style, the community itself gatekept the concept heavily so it fosters you to get better, otherwise you'd get roasted daily. If you can't get better, you might just move on to a whole brand new concept yourself. If you can't adapt the community's toxic enviornment, you can move along too. There were barely any snowflakes on Skype, forum, but nowadays everything changed. You can't talk bad about anyone otherwise a forum ban coming your way. Testers / Admins also losing their ability to justify whether the suggestions are useful or not, they just shut everything down like it's a community country like China / North Korea. It's really bad for the community. Cause it's players made the community, players are the voice. And in the end, I wanna say it's not about the marketing. You wanna promote things on Myspace or Facebook? It's long gone, SA-MP is long gone. Have fun while it lasted as you can, cause once you type in 'LS-RP' on youtube, only deathmatch videos would pop out and it's a bad root. Cause it only attracts DMers. The new generations don't give a single fuck about SA-MP heavy text based roleplay, they all getting attracted by those FiveM voice server, the hardcore heavy text based period has long gone. This time I'm bringing GTA:World up so you can clearly see the difference between two servers, LS-RP got some die hard hardcore roleplayers while GTA:World has become a light roleplay server. This is the trend. I'm afraid LS-RP would end like that way as well. I'm sure we all hitting 25s or 30s, this generation's player base would only decrease. So give it a last shot, mass unban or selectively unban a certain people. We finna beat on the dead horse again, give it a one last go. Also you really think LS-RP:V is a good idea? Come on. We all knew what happened since the last grand openning, it went downfall, we could've hardly hit 50 after the first month. It's not attracting any new players since the old ones always stuck on the GTA:World. Come on management team, do something. We love this community that's why we'd let our voice out. Like I said, we could've walked away without giving a damn but we still chose to speak out. Cause we love this community and we don't wanna see it's dying out.

The main thing y’all need to understand is that GTA SA is a dead game. Kids nowadays don't run home from school to hop on LSRP and roleplay. A lot of you are stuck in the past, remembering when we used to rush out of class to play SAMP. Well times have changed kids today do that but for games like Fortnite. Let the nostalgia go. Open your arms to something better RAGEMP is the future!

This is fire!

Ganton is a city in southern Los Santos. According to the 2008 US Census, the total population of Ganton is 58,620 people. The racial makeup is fairly even among Whites, Blacks and Hispanics. Of the residents, 36% are Hispanic, 23.6% are Black or African American, 21.1% of residents are White, and .2% are Asian. Approximately 35.1% of residents are foreign born, and 53.8% speak a language other than English in the home. About 19.6% of residents have a bachelor’s degree or higher and 80.1% have a high school degree. Also, 13.8% of families and 14.4% of individuals live below the poverty line. Ganton can be seen today filled with young teenagers rocking grey flags and Pittsburg Pirates as well as tattoo's representing Ganton Pinoyz Boyz affiliation.

Question for OP; who would be the better managers that community could vote for? @Martin_Busato

Censorship is a short-term fix that causes long-term damage to player trust. Time and time again, Los Santos Roleplay has needed its leadership to be more than just present, but to be actively engaged and willing to adapt. If the goal is to save the server, the solution is open dialogue, not a delete button. Let the community speak. I also firmly believe that shifting all focus to GTA:V is/was a mistake. LSRP lacks the first-mover advantange in that space; the market is already saturated with established servers that have spent years refining their features and communities. LSRP’s unique identity and legacy are rooted in SAMP (were they were also the first mover). Trying to play catch-up on a new platform while neglecting the core community here is a recipe for failure. We need to lean into what makes us unique, not chase a train that left the station years ago.

Facts still stand. SAMP has been nothing but a team deathmatch server with some HvH sprinkled around it.

With all due respect you need to get your head outta your ass with how much you asslick LSRP’s false promises with a server on gta 5, face the truth, GTA World was made by ex-LSRP players who were fed up with all the bullshit the LSRP management had back in 2017. Ask yourself, if the management gives no fucks about their community right now what makes them care about their so called ‘savior’ LSRP V?

I'm comparing the two because for some reason, people still think SAMP can be salvaged. No. SAMP cannot be salvaged anymore. It was over a long time ago. If there's 20 people supporting SAMP, there's hundreds anticipating a RageMP release. Kick the dead horse all you want, but it ain't gonna revive.

I don't know, that's World's problem.

How would you have fun on World as an illegal roleplayer when almost every interaction turns into a forum report or a faction report?

I'm not disputing that World is popular, and for good reasons too, but why are you comparing one against the other? SAMP provides a different experience, and one that people still resonate with; however after reading the posts so far in this thread, the majority of these people seem beaten down by the fact that their server's overlords would lazily rather try to cash-in on a GTA V server 12 years into its existence, than invest in their loyal player base and enrich the server. Choose one lane or another, the fact that RAGE is so half baked is a testament to how little Mmartin gives a shit about this community. If I were you, I'd stop duking it on the forum and go and have fun on World where they've been refining the GTA V experience for years, instead of jeopardizing this community of roleplayers.

Right now, I'm looking at two servers. One has 339 players at the moment while the other has 13. Can you guess which one's the SAMP server? A certain minority might enjoy the nostalgia of it, but it still doesn't change the situation. Your average Joe does not want to play SAMP when they can do what they did with better graphics and better scripts.

Sure, we break some balls in here, but I go way back. Personally, I think the bottom line is do people want to roleplay or not? I'll admit, my take doesn't have a lot of nuance to it, as I don't have much experience with the staff and I've only been back on this server for a year, but my history with this place goes as far back as '09. Historically, the staff at large have notoriously been a tyrannical regime who log on to pat each other's backs and make life harder for everybody else, and while they may very well be mostly to blame for the dip in activity, I can't speak to it because I don't involve myself much in these things. The server has had its peaks and valleys, but when one group comes up with something dynamite and shows real enthusiasm, then more are inspired to create themselves. I think we have to get to the heart of this thing and address what we're all here to do, which is roleplay. Multiple people log onto this forum every day, more than 1,000 people are active on the server's Discord channel as we speak, and yet the server's activity is no where to be seen; barely anything out of RAGE, and yet people still dutifully log on, each week, to see how SAMP is doing. You do the math. @shotgun shawty I agree with most of the things you said, but this is pretty reductionist. The same could be said for any crime-based roleplay server, but interest has waned for you specifically. There's still people out there more than capable and willing to find new, original takes on that kind of roleplay, so if it isn't your cup of tea now, then fair enough. The game being old has nothing to do with it either, there are a lot of players who enjoy the novelty of it and prefer how its graphics and art style lend more toward the imagination.

Not happening

Just mass unban everyone already and watch the PB go up what do we have to lose if they break rules just ban again

Unless management participates in these kind of threads, they render useless. Last thread was 8 pages with not a single comment from management (Oh my bad, they had one post saying not to doxx or flame or whatever and then closed it). The vets can toss ideas and reflect until next month but without management actively responding to them, which doesn't seem like they plan on doing, it's pointless.

The lack of transparency from staff to players and the lack of adequate punishments for cheaters and severe rule breakers are the main reasons for the downfall of LS-RP. This is a concern that me and multiple other dedicated IFT members raised ever since late Q1/early Q2 as we started recognizing the patterns that brought the server down back in 2020-2021. There are multiple threads that I have created back on the legacy forums, I would've gladly shared the link however those forums are currently down. One specific thread was in regards to players remaining unpunished for subpar roleplay (mainly in terms of provoking, robbing, deathmatch, etc), a thread that Martin Busato and Michael Dippolito were also contributing to and I am sure that they remember that. Veteran/experienced roleplayers didn't quit LS-RP because they got old or real life responsibilities took over. They gave up because of the standards of roleplay and this is something that players themselves cannot be blamed for as they are not the ones regulating the standards. The same 25+ year old players who were "tired of RP" are now very active on GTA World and I can assure you it's not because GTA V is much more pleasant to roleplay on - it's about the standard of roleplay. Many have complained about the over the top restrictions that World has however that approach is evidently working. It does get annoying at some point however it's simple quality assurance in terms of the overall standard of the community. You aren't able to speak your mind on LS-RP, let alone accuse certain individuals of ruining the server with their imcompetence as it is considered "bashing". You are also not able to lash our your frustration over things that you believe are absurd as that is also considered "bashing". The usual answer that you get from staff members to any of you "crying" is: "Why are you still playing then?" Once you create a "civil" general discussion like this one, it will inevitably grow into fed up players who have a genuine passion for the server to come and start "talking shit". I will refrain from using my regular approach to these kind of threads as I don't want to see this getting locked. I know they are just waiting for someone like me to pour their heart out and have an excuse to throw this in the bin. Many will ask me as to why I even bother commenting on this thread, considering that I am permanently banned and will most likely never be allowed back in the community. To give you my answer in advance, I truly cared for this community for many years and I wanted to share my two cents. Unfortunately, I don't see a scenario where players can regain the trust of the staff members and continue as if nothing happened. I became a Tester in early November and was basically advised by staff members to accept any incoming applications, as long as they haven't used ChatGPT in their stories. That itself shows how we have allowed literally anyone to join the server with the hopes of increasing the playerbase. We allowed the migration of players coming from low tier roleplay servers to disrupt the roleplay of veterans, leaving their subpar roleplay unpunished because "we need players". That only made experienced roleplayers leave and you were left with the players who can barely string any decent /me or /do without the usage of ChatGPT. TLDR: Management is at fault. No future for LS-RP without transparency and genuine dedication.

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Did we really think this would be anything like LS-RP "v1"? To the unware eyes this was just a money scheme. What happened to not re-opening LS-RP because rights and permissions were needed? That soon went out the window when the heads saw the crazy blossom of Red County RP. Just weird how LS-RP decided to re open a few months later after Red County after telling the community numerous times that it was never happening and "legally" cannot happen. It was a fun first few months, a refresh back into SAMP roleplay but of course, the dictatorship came as it always did. It's like a red or blue pill scenario, you make a set of people happy and sacrifice the other group and this whole journey has been a blue print of that. An insane amount of favouritism was shown to various groups while the others were basically told to suck it up but that's how its always been so it was really nothing new. We couldn't of expected any sort of great change from Mmartin when his track record consists of going AWOL, leaving issues or development on the back burner and having his pawns to twiddle their fingers and just figure out how to run it. But I will admit you did fool me with the UCP voting system on stuff we want. Fair play, but just goes to show how incapable Mmartin is at keeping his word. If you're wondering on how you can fix this, you can't. Just let it go, the reality is this should've never happened and only did because the potential for money was apparent. The removal of the bronze, silver and gold packages? Making one package a $20 p/m scheme? You cannot tell me money wasn't the motivation here. Overpriced shit. The whole point of the donation system is to support the server. Support what exactly? Support admins giving unfair verdicts? Making staff reports for it to still be denied? Letting the suggestion section pile up and ignoring it? Leading people on and giving false hope? The fall is bitter sweet. The staff team took a change a while back seeing people go and still then it's been a mess. The only high power admin I can speak good about is risen. You can say whatever you want about him but when the server was experiencing the random loss of weapons, this man was the only person to actually look into it and sort it. The others who I won't name couldn't give a fuck. And I messaged all of them and all just ignored me. Now what sort of "lead admin" team is that? When you're put into that position you don't fall back and relax, you're suppose to guide and sort out issues, you have certain permissions over other admin levels specifically to resolve issues and you all choose to do nothing with it? This isn't a virtual celebrity ring, you're nothing special outside of LS-RP, the need to act like you are is laughable. You're admin for a reason, do your job, help the community, stop acting like a bighead. A mass unban solves nothing. A change in the structure will change nothing. LSRP is nothing more than a hvh server now. The games old, it's more or less a recycling server now. How different can you RP from the last ten years? As a community we've seen every scripted LCN dialog, every Sureno kite stabbing, every Crip and Blood war. It's bland, boring, old and recycled.