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I usually don't pass comment on these types of threads, but after removing a number of stupid comments - I guess I will. This thread will be likely locked soon, sooner if people can't hold a mature conversation; topics like this can never go long before devolving into finger pointing and stupid remarks by a few bad actors. We appreciate genuine feedback, be that positive or negative but we're not entertaining derailing/faction bashing. What I'd keep in mind, is that as a player you're not privy to the warnings people receive - or the notice that the staff team, or relevant faction leaders take to certain players. If there are issues with individuals, you need to report either in-game or over the forums or else we'll never know in order for any action to be taken - as n0de said. I can personally speak to how responsive the Head of Legal Factions (n0de) is in addressing concerns that the community have, and putting rules in place based on that feedback often to the dismay of the factions it applies to. Things like, restrictions on how both PD and SD use helicopters have recently been changed simply based on the communities feedback. Personally, I'm in PD (not very actively) as well as an official illegal faction and I see scenarios play out from both sides. Both sides have very valid complaints about one another which are extremely hard to address given that its not just one player, it's often an atmosphere fostered within a faction which is much harder to change. Recently I've seen an increase in illegal factions sitting in public with an arsenal of weaponry strapped to each one of their backs/stored on the floor nearby. Back in the day, I recall the exact same players/factions always putting their weapons up after being shot at/coming back from a faction attack etc. because they were aware that something may have happened to prompt an interaction from PD/SD and they don't want to be caught with a gun on them. This isn't the attitude players have anymore. There is no fear which is a massive part of why factions are struggling to slip under the radar with LEO factions and feel targeted. That being said, I have 100% witnessed PD/SD ruining illegal role-player's motivation to RP before my eyes too, and I do really empathise with anyone who feels they've been victim to this as it can be extremely demotivating. I'd like to reiterate that if you feel there's a rule or guidance that could be put in place to promote a healthier balance/relationship between illegal factions and PD/SD - we're happy to hear them but this thread isn't going to achieve that. Suggesting to close PD or SD simply isn't going to achieve anything constructive. The Illegal Faction Council/Team would also be happy to support you or your faction members in raising these concerns or ideas to the appropriate team/staff members.
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Respectfully, reporting changes nothing. We report in game and nothing happens, we report on the forums and nothing changes. If we all had to keep tabs on reporting cops every time we witness rule breaking and or sub-par roleplay we’d probably would have a second job at this point. What is the issue with shutting down a department? If we see 85 players a day at peak, why not only have SD (the better of the two) run policing?
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My two cents on this are this... 8pm server time, you'll start seeing the premiers with 2-3 people in driving around looking for reasons to justify shooting LEO's or just about anyone else. Until such time this is addressed, I'm don't see much else changing. SD I can honestly say is in a great place with regards to leadership and supervision of its members, I've not once encountered anyone provoking people with an intention to escalate a situation into DM. There's enough DM as it is, from my experience I/we value the encounters where I get to actually roleplay with people. From a faction leadership perspective, we're always happy to receive feedback on any of our members, both positive and negative and if, off the back of this anyone wishes to reach out to me to share their experience then please do so. I also echo Node on his point, report those who you do witness doing this stuff, we don't want them around as much as you don't.
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Apologies, wasn't my intention to lump everyone into the same boat. Obviously any comment made has outliers, and it's nice to see you guys being the outliers in this scenario. On a genuine tho, what's a pinning ceremony? Furthermore, feel like we're all being quite negative. I said it on another thread where I'm discussing the standards of LEO driving at the minute but there are some LEO roleplayers out there who are honestly golden. I also have a lot of time for SD leadership currently, all my interactions with them have been genuinely golden. I've not had the honours of interacting with PD since Lemon and Consistency did a switch but I've been told it's better.
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Wouldn't respond but I will since the person above me did. A PD officer called ten cruisers on e perfect driving Burrito which had insurance and all, because he SAW the passenger hold a gun(tec9). When we asked he admitted he saw it in /b, went ahead and reported since the windows were closed. He used a modification that gave him advantage. He should have been banned. END. Yet the person above me didn't even give him a warning or a punishment, just voided the scene. Shows a lot how LEO get treated from admins, and why they come and have the attitude to chase someone. No one does road blocks for checks at night. They don't want to RP they just want the easy "legal" DM spree.
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The only thing I will say at the minute, before this devolves from an actual constructive conversation as it has in the past, is that making any claims of rule breaking on a thread like this does nothing. There are mechanisms to report rule breaking and other concerns with faction members, if people choose not to for whatever reason then issues will go unaddressed.
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God I miss when parolees were always available. SADCR used "roleplay rich" approaches, always used words, and never used guns. The server's current standards is just a big "it is what it is".
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The current PD members think this is a cops & robbers server. A huge overhaul is needed because the RP is below par and tbh SHIT & boring now. Constant MG, abuse of 3rd camera angles, being able to see guns behind high rised walls and bushes, provoking, 3D glasses, being able to spot pistol bulges from 100 meters away the list goes on. They provoke and look for reasons to start mass shootouts and then when they die are able to return to the same area over and over and do it again? More rules need to be put on PD in regards to all this trash. SD on the other hand have been great recently, so big them up!
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In addition, folks are bored of the status quo and are looking for someone to blame. There are no stakes on LS-RP anymore. Get cut off by a faction for moving too heavy? Just hit some friend of a friend up on Discord and he'll supply drop you 20 fresh M4s. Got a problem with another faction? Just close ranks with your buddies and sit on their hood with nametag hacks until they log in. Faction strike? No problem, just close down and make a new thread lifted straight from ChatGPT/Wikipedia. On the LEO side, the only stakes have been the ones upheld by the leadership. PD/SD members sinking to the new "standard" of DM instead of trying to rise above it and power through it should be treated accordingly. They're the only type of faction on the server with no incentives against causing havoc beyond the slim possibility of accumulating enough punishments to be unignorably toxic players.
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