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The post above is from one year and two months ago, taken directly from @Martin_Busato's original thread. We all truly sleep in the bed we make. And if you sleep long enough on a badly made bed, you're bound to have nightmares.

I just want to thank everyone who participated in this discussion and providing a lot of constructive criticism. And another thanks to the staff team for allowing this topic to stay up this long, I know it wasn’t easy but this is extremely necessary. Let’s give the staff a chance to respond and see where their heads are at with all of this.

@manslaughter’s got a point. I think a server shutdown as soon as possible is a rather smart move. Why? Well to begin we can really see every staff members individuals role and purpose on the server. Really analyze who serves a purpose here versus who is in fact dead weight. There is way more importance to a temporary server shutdown. It will serve as a reality check for everyone. I’d hope at the very least management can create some honest core messaging to the community. I assume the same community members on this thread will be ready to help in any way possible. Systems are broken, trust is missing and at the core that alone needs to be rebuilt and server shutdown would help everyone focus on that. Perhaps dividing people up to access player loss and ways to fix that, tweaking our UCP sign up system. I feel like we’ve lost our identity as a heavy text based roleplay server and those people can sit down and rework what our server niche may be. Staff chaos is a huge fucking flaw and I don’t need to go into further detail but a restructure so beyond necessary. Finally I think entertaining a marketing team would be huge however that would look and work I think it’s necessary. This “LSRP vision” lacks a mission statement and with management being absolutely mute, I think it’s time to figure it out at some point. What matters? What doesn’t and what arguements are off topic? I got a ton more on my mind but beginning here and seeing how the community can get involved would be huge.

True. But if we don't fight we can all forget about all of this like years ago. Do WE really want it? Or maybe we can try something out?

Because there is no community to begin with, half the community couldn't care less about any of this, and the rest are us who actually engage in this, but will not be heard. Truth be told, you guys need to face it, a change won't happen, it did not happen in 2017, it did not happen in 2021, it won't happen now.

Imagine this okay. Lower player base on samp, for me a normal thing(Today more people can afford to play RageMP then 5 years ago and thats a FACT) So, having in mind that samp is actually 21 year old game, and no one actually comes back to play it(Just for nostalgia okay?) Its like comparing Counter Strike 1.6 with CS2, what would you play? OFC! CS2 Because its newer, more optimised and popular game. THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME THEN MOST. is that half of the community thinks "LSRP is dying because of staff" Yeah, partially. Still WE all are player base that make this community alive. We do it for fun, we love to RP and to play this game, it's like a escape from reality for me at least. So yeah, my point is. Put your EGO beside and actually turn on your brains if you really want this to THRIVE and not only SURVIVE. Again, i'm sorry for any inconvenience i said. All the things i said were based on MY opinion and my thinking about all of this. In the end, we are here to have fun and create a good community and environment for EVERYONE. Thanks!

I understand you totally. But you really, really think that tagging mmartin, and other staff members will change the situaiton? Adressing the actual problem is not hard brother. LSRP LACKS IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. WE are all angry because martin and bobster are this and that(Just an example don't take personally). The actual thing that is bad is that 60% of community lacks in actual understanding of the whole concept of a VIDEO GAME. You don't get to do things that are out of rules just because you are angry, dude, go out and take your angry energy elsewhere. (Generally speaking). INSTEAD of trying to blame him or him or her or him. Why don't we as COMMUNITY try to fix the problem. (Still saying, this isn't directed to no one. @manslaughter All of this i'm saying generally and i have no such thing as a little hate directed to you or anyone here. I just want LSRP to be better place for me and everyone else playing, because i want to have FUN and not sense of sadness when i join the server)

I hear you. I'm simply suggesting to trim the fat, and therefore move forward with a rebrand. But with the current state of the community, and the management (or lack thereof), this is slim to none.

My man, this is thread about "HOW WE CAN MAKE LSRP THRIVE AND NOT SURVIVE" not, "LET's EVALUATE ALL STAFF MEMBERS" You gotta understand one thing. People have their lives outside of a fucking games that are like 10-20 years old. I mean i understand you point and everything, I support the so called /revolution/ but its not the way to do it ma brotha. We have to or find a similar point with staff, a compromise. Or at least understand the actual situation rn. It's not about evaluating player base about their history or things they did here on LSRP. It's about bettering the SERVER AS A WHOLE. And not actually lose it again like years ago... Take this as a constructive criticism. I'm not here to insult anyone, I just want to still have fun here because i grew up with this community. Let's ALL of us take our EGOS apart from this discussion and actually try to find a solution to all of this. Thanks and sorry if i said something wrong.

@Mmartin@badhbh@bobster@jack (badhbh and jack responded here already so I'm only addressing the other 2) @Mmartin You need to leave. So consider your input irrelevant and unnecessary. Thank you for all that you did in your tenure but you're useless and dead weight. @bobster Care to chime in? The literal rest of the staff (with a small exception of a few names that I personally know/rp'ed with and are active rn) are useless fat, that should be trimmed down by 75%. This is the last response I'm going to make here, but Kev and a few others really hit this fucked up nail on the head. It's not feasible. There's no action plan. There's no true leadership. The worst part? This staff doesn't give two fucks about you, the average player with some sort of pride in producing heavy text-based role play, once the foundation of our community. You're a number on the worldwide internet, whom they don't know, therefore can give a shit about the time/effort you are putting into your respective factions. If they did, they wouldn't waste your time and deflect from the problems effecting the server right before our eyes. 150 players is honestly doable. But a new leadership ideology will need to be made, and transfer of all of LSRP's assets to someone else so a pivotal rebrand can be attempted will be required. If not, I would honestly urge every player who isn't a GTA V simp to let it go. Just leave the game. They don't deserve you or your time.

Who the TURKS will block wipe now ... RIP respect for the OG's who started this

@Antoine Gournier gonna miss u twin 😞

the boys are back in town

Brip in peace, shoutout @MrMardy

Also want to quote this post. It makes the most sense to see where we fall in and ways we can attempt to scale up again. Separating the LSRP V and SAMP community entirely almost sounds like a great idea in my head. Restructuring, implementing small updates, incentives for community members to take on responsibilities and roles, repurposing the tester roles, acquiring new developers all just sound motivating. We aren’t trying to reinvent the wheel here, simply just trying to juice the player numbers back up to 120. It is without a doubt achievable given this servers history and tenure on samp.

A very convenient approach to just letting the angry lash out their frustration and move on with their day, hoping that they will grow tired and become careless. That approach is only effective short term. The community has evidently had enough. The absence of staff members sharing their opinions on the matter will result in further trust lost, something that you will hardly be able to get back in the future, whether that's on SA:MP or V.

Don’t expect any staff member who supports rage to give any input. I only hope that leadership will take accountability in their response and not deflect.

Between the last thread and this thread, the input from the community is painted clearly. It would be great to have some feedback from staff members. We have had more than enough of these threads accumulate this past year and it is so obvious what the community body would like to see. It doesn’t seem so apparent on the staffs side of things. Would love some answers, these threads get exhausting, we’ve been poking the bear for answers for days now at this point.

It's no secret that myself and the rest of my faction's leadership has butted heads with Aloosh numerous times in the past, but I want to take a moment to applaud the honesty he has shown in his contributions to this topic and the previous one. Clearly he is someone who cares about the people and LSRP succeeding. That's precisely the attitude all staff need to embody if there's any hope in turning this ship around. That is real leadership that people can respect.

They need to change this immediately. Why we need more transparency has already been discussed ad nauseum by the dedicated people of this community.

They’ve been told not to engage in these types of threads. Instead, they’ve decided to split the community once again, and if you want to voice your concerns, you have to do it internally, within threads that only staff have access to. At least that's what I was told when I was still a Senior Admin. Edit: I honestly don’t know why they’d expect any staff member who’s still passionate about SA:MP to share their concerns internally. I’ve witnessed the behaviour from multiple LSRP V enthusiasts on the staff team. They outnumber you and actually bully you out.

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