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1 hour ago, mhrhan said:
Limiting the amount of people that join a patrol room (idk what they are called) to maximum 4 (or dependant on the type of the callsign) so we won't have 15-people squads. Also, PD staff can set the TeamSpeak in a way that all LSRP players can see the channels and the people in that channel (except for the TAC channels) but cannot join.
Also, letting the admins that are not part of any legal factions access the TeamSpeak would be a second possible solution since they can hop in and check if there's any metagaming.
While I understand where you're coming from in regards to limiting channels that won't be the solution to metagame. If you limit the channels people will just join a discord chat with their friends and chat around, it's simple as that.
I personally find it distracting and I can't focus on my role-play, but people need to understand that it's completely fine to be in a voice chat (be either discord or teamspeak) with your friends.
As for admins joining channels, they're free to do so, they have their own groups in TeamSpeak and they can join the Legal Factions teamspeak whenever they feel like it.A lot of things that were mentioned have been removed and dealt with, however, we're not perfect and we never will be, if people wanna abuse they'll abuse, we've seen it in multiple areas in this community and as someone said we can't monitor people 24/7, it's important that reports are sent to us or to admins so proper action can be taken.
So keep this in mind, if you ever have an interaction with someone from PD that you feel it was not correct you can approach me via PMs and we'll take a look into it.
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On 10/16/2021 at 8:26 PM, Krashout Activities said:
I remember from SA-MP, PD would ride around four deep in a cruiser with M4's equipped and go bananas on their suspects. This caused a massive amount of hate towards the PD faction back then because some say it's "unrealistic", and I honestly agree with them. This is a new era of LS-RP, so I just hope that doesn't come back.
Well if we were to go with the realistic aspect of it then you would be amazed to find out that there's multiple incidents involving police and criminals where you have multiple rifles deployed for a single pistol. Now, this is a game and there needs to be a balance, that is why ROE was changed as well as Legal Faction Rules surrounding the deployment of M4s, we went even further into restricting shotgun usage and making sure it wasn't being used in 1v1 situations where the suspect only had a pistol.
Now you may say, oh but I saw X and Y abusing, I don't doubt that, there'll always be people that abuse and we're here to deal with that and I've deal with plenty of situations like that, but it's also important for the community to report said faction members on the forums if they break any server rules or report to us if you think what he did was not right.
At the end of the day it's really a matter of working together so we make sure everyone has a nice experience.-
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On 10/3/2021 at 3:14 PM, KnownAlmighty said:
More roleplay and less shootings, and ego. Police from time to time can give chances to those who committed their first crime, to cut loose before deciding to ruin someone's life. Unless it's not serious of course. It has to be improved by not being a robocop as it was defined on SA-MP, I give my hopes that everyone will be able to encounter with PD properly.
I definitely agree that there should be more role-play and that if there's instances where you have shootouts from left to right it should be interpreted ICly and not OOCly, this means that you shouldn't leave a scene just for the sake of responding to another shootout, you should be role-playing things and not rushing them.
As for cutting people loose it all depends on the scenario, there will always be laws that fall under Officer Discretion and there can be some agreements as far as role-playing a teenager and etc. I agree with you that you shouldn't just be throwing people into jails. In fact, I'm in favor of serving sentences offline, but that's a topic for another discussion.On 10/3/2021 at 7:27 PM, Xanakin said:Cops roleplaying actual characters and not the usual robocops only going on-duty to perform traffics stops and participating in shootouts.
People are free to go and role-play off duty, however, we do not enforce that and it would somewhat be hard, however, I do see where you're coming from and I think the key is really focusing on role-playing a character.
On 10/4/2021 at 5:16 PM, Cofii said:Cops that are actually gonna care about others when it comes to a penaltie. I think that in real life it's not that easy to just put man behind bars without listening to his part of the story. Most of the time it's just "you are guilty, welcome to the jail" - you're CKed. It looks like they have something wrote on the notepad and copy-paste it whole time.
Like I said to KnownAlmighty, it will always depend on the crime that was committed, some fall under Officer Discretion and it will be up to the individual which means it will depend on your character's traits, etc. However, I agree that cops should be more lenient when it comes to role-playing around teenagers.
On 10/5/2021 at 6:40 AM, Jerome said:Leadership team welcoming constructive criticism rather than labeling it as slandering the faction. In the past, I myself have tried giving criticism which resulted in being pointed at as a problem starter and toxic. The leadership team needs to be open to taking suggestions and advice from both it's subordinates and those outside of the faction. There's nothing wrong with not understanding how to resolve every problem as a leader. It takes a good leader to listen and resolve the issue(s) in a way that benefits everyone. Also, the leadership team should try to voice their own individual opinions rather than just agree with what other members of top brass think. We don't need yes men.
We're always open to taking any suggestions, but we do not have to agree with you, there will always be people that won't agree with you and that's pretty much it, sometimes we can make decisions that most of our factions members won't like (i.e when UPR was introduced a lot of people didn't like) but if we believe it's the right decision for the faction we'll do and we'll also be the first to admit our mistakes.
On 10/5/2021 at 8:37 AM, FatSam121 said:Ive always wanted to see a PD that actively does investigations aswell.
It would have to be higher ranking people but for example, looking at wealthy individuals that are involved in crime.
You see people living in the hood driving around $120,000 cars... shouldnt that raise a little suspicion?
When we had the SA-MP server it was not possible to do that sort of role-play but I believe with the endless opportunities in RAGE we might see interesting role-play scenarios.
On 10/5/2021 at 12:43 PM, Mikee said:Since GTA V gives you a lot of oportunity script-wise I would like to see an active K9 unity.
In terms of roleplay I would like to see more roleplay and less shooting ( as someone already said ). Plus police officers should develop their characters even off-duty, not only when they're on-duty and then log-off. Last but not least it would be nice if they set up more public events.We would like to see that as well, but it will ultimately depend on the server development.
As for the off-duty aspect, you can read some of my replies, but the general rule is that we cannot enforce off-duty role-play, it's really up to the individual and I personally don't think enforcing off-duty role-play is the right direction.On 10/5/2021 at 10:13 PM, Kwalski said:Stop metagame and useless pull overs, the arrest should be more of a valid not just the ordinary reasons, LSRP cops were too harsh.
I think it's important that when you feel that someone is breaking the server rules you should straight away report them, that's the first step, second step is submitting an OOC complaint. If you don't do any of these then there's nothing we can do if we don't know about such incidents.
On 10/8/2021 at 2:23 AM, Cayl said:It would be cool to see the faction leadership encourage community engagement in character. On SAMP, it was too few and far between characters actually getting fleshed out. It felt like a lot of players, who joined law enforcement factions, just followed a formula.
I think that was well seen, especially with GND and some of the gangs that were on SA-MP there were a lot of interesting interactions, but there's always room for improvement and I think it would be beneficial for everyone to create more engagement with others and make things more dynamic.
On 10/8/2021 at 4:57 PM, zUgg said:Implement realistic budgets and stick to them! Others have attempted this but it just ends with staff spawning money. LAPD and every other department in the US. work off a tight budget that is voted on annually.
Depending on where it falls it can adversely effect a number of things.
- New Officer hiring could increase or decrease based on the budget.
- Officer retainment could suffer, budget shortcomings could result in less officers.
- Department expansions hinge on the budget, the all mighty dollar and it takes a lot of them to run. This s a source of contention for almost every large department in the US.
- Lawsuits affect the departments funds and in return puts very realistic pressure on the department heads to make sure people are on point and money isn't wasted.
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Host a community fundraiser to help raise money. It happens all the time in the US to fund even the necessities... Example 1 Example 2
- This could easily provide RP that isn't about kicking in doors and shooting people... its community outreach.
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Budgeting for employee ammunition would be critical and put much needed checks and balances into the department.
- Why did Officer J. Smith request and use over 1000 rounds over the past month?
All interactions with LEO's don't need to end in gun fights, arrests or police chases. Lets put initiatives forward to get cops out of cars and walking, doing beat work or other examples like....
Outreach Project in the Projects - These officers show up and coordinate with the community leaders to host a cookout, a charity event... a game of pick up basketball or maybe there is some excess budget for the year and they purchase and donate bicycles to the inner city youth gangbangers in Rancho, just a quick example.
Pancake Charity Breakfast - Raising funds to get officers some new equipment.
There will be an economy system that will accommodate a budget for legal factions, which means it will bring new opportunities to the faction and new things to role-play, I think some of the ideas are feasible while others aren't.
For example, it wouldn't be viable to check ammo usage, the amount of shootouts that sometime happen are insane and not necessarily realistic, but that's really because at the end of the day this is still a game and not a real life replica.On 10/12/2021 at 12:06 PM, tut said:I would like to see this gone. This should not be the goal, the goal should be to portray a realistic police department with what's given to you on hand, basing the department off of the lapd and portraying them to the best of your ability whilst adding your own twist to make it unique. 1:1 should not be the goal as you'd throw away suggestions simply because the "lapd doesn't do that." when another department might/ it might make sense for a game. If you really "strive as a faction to be 1:1 with the LAPD" have everyone name themselves after a LAPD officer and just name change the faction to the lapd, as this would meet that goal. The strive should be "Portraying a realistic police department based off the LAPD". Police departments tend to change their policies to match the community at hand, the Los Santos community will be a lot more "active" than LA with the crime statistics alone given it's low population but most likely very high crime rate.
I think that there'll always be a compromise, we're based from LAPD and we want to keep that way, but I like the idea of giving it a twist and making unique, but at the end of the day I can't say what we won't and will replicate, I think it will really be on a case by case, but I do like the idea of adapting to the city, perhaps it would make things more dynamic and not the same thing every month.
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