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I wish i could say he is, but he sadly isn’t. Thats what I’m trying to convey here, LEO factions are met with terrible standards of role play majority of the time and most of the time you have no idea of what happens to us everyday in game. Your concerns are understandable and valid and LSSD in particular has been trying to provide as much roleplay ad possible but it’s inevitable for faults to occur thanks to the overwhelming number of players on this server that proudly fly the “I’d rather shoot than go to jail” attitude with zero fear of LEO consequence at all. It all boils down to the fact that there were no punishments put down. I’d like to quote my original reply from the original topic as well to make it known and obvious that the definition of “poor reason to kill” is unfortunately very subjective as we have been indulged in several “suicide by cop” and “poor reason to kill” situations that were ruled out justifiable by this very current admin team. When LEOs dont find proper outcomes of reports its inevitable they’ll adapt and eventually stoop down to the level they see and meet everyday. I hope this sheds light on why we are in this situation now.
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Said all that needs to he said. Slamming blame on LEOs while not looking into the fact that 80% of the playerbase would rather “shoot it out because they don’t wanna go to jail” is absurd to me. I’m only speaking on this since multiple comments mentioned the entire concerns about the entire downhill par of rp of the LEO scene as a whole, I’ll be speaking from an SD standpoint considering it is the faction a belong to. SD has been giving out the best that could be done to most factions regardless of the constant breakage of server policies and rules and the absurd mentality and attitude glooming over the server as a whole Multiple comments showed evident that the complaints keep hovering around the fact that the community is upset that they get caught after publicly display long guns and heavy weapons. Instead of throwing the blame entirely on LEOs with having zero idea of the amount of sub-par rp we are faced with on a daily basis thanks to the downgrading and crazy spiraling down par of rp for the entire server is not it. No LEO factions randomly starts going ham, I’d advise you lot see for yourselves the way you react with law enforcement considering majority you all would rather “shoot my way out than go to jail” which is an unhealthy mentality that glooms over the entire server. Be the change you want to see. You can not expect something from LEOs when the entirety of the server had a downhill mindset and par of rp, yes some factions are indeed flourishing and have very great and high level roleplay, but expecting LEOs to just suddenly stop and treat you differently just because while the whole server would rather “shoot and kill cops for dm montages & not go to jail” There are several groups that go in game with the soul purpose of killing cops, no wonder LEO levels would drop thanks to this messed up attitude. LEOs, primarily SD as this is the faction I belong to and am able to speak about, are not here to police your server, yes, but you do have to expect to he caught after pulling stunts like drive by shootings in the middle of the city in broad daylight with several patrol cars around and multiple detectives to investigate. It’s not about “winning” we get absolutely nothing from confiscating your weapons or arresting you, we just want to provide and RECEIVE proper role play and enjoy our time on the server, thats it. I’ve said it once and i’ll say it again. Harsher punishments is a must for both parties, we wouldn’t be here if there were genuine punishments applied to clear and absurd behavior instead of a “slap on the hand” or “It will be better on Rage”.
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To clear things off, this formation has absolutely nothing to do with a basic traffic stop over a headlight violation, thats a felony stop so 9 times out of 10 they mistook you for a wrong suspect. It’s not just to “search you” we dont get extra lsrp tokens for taking your guns lmao
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The problem isn’t individual players, the problem is the general atmosphere of the entire server as a whole. following up on multitude of the comments here, I’ve personally tried to report several times with no good outcomes, for example 2 males armed with m4s came outta nowhere and decided to air out 7 deputies more or less on the spot just like that, when reports were casted the attack was ruled “justifiable” since the two males were apparently “helping” a male we had stopped. Regardless of administrative POV, allowing two randoms to just rail down 7 deputies with zero fear as if there’s zero consequence is not optimal. The endorsement if said attitude and not punishing it is what made players comfortable with killing cops like its nothing which results in majority of the subpar interactions we face today as PD/SD. And the situation i mentioned was only an example of what happens on a daily basis with bare consequences. Harsher repercussions are crucial for all parties. If the community believes LEOs went subpar for no apparent reason, well that was only an example of what we go through on a daily basis, this is also why not everything is reported, not all LEO rpers are going in game to spam ss and forum reports, they go in game to enjoy the game just like everyone else does, especially when reports aren’t met with expected outcomes that preserves an uphill motion towards a better par of roleplay. The issue is not PD/SD, the issue is serverwide. Raising the roof of what we believe is “heavy RP” is the solution i see for the issues addressed. Harsher punishments will eventually prompt a better flow of players, mentality, attitude, and much more.
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as far as i know Harlows they’ve been happy with SD side of roleplay, speaking of OSSB, though. I believe that “shift” truly happened due to overall drop of standards serverwide, can’t blame PD/SD when they are faced with subpar roleplayers and dmers majority of the time compared to very minimal genuine roleplay going on. You may seem to roleplay properly with law enforcement agencies, but you gotta bare in mind the fact that a great majority of LEO interactions result in subpar outcomes thanks to the mentality of many players just unable to let go of their weapons when asked to step out of a vehicle for a violation, thats an example. take a moment to scroll through faction threads related to LEO factions you will notice genuine roleplay, passivity, and showcase of the actual core of faction all around, “robocop” attitude is highly frowned upon anyways by both factions. Overall standards serverwide have shifted, PD/SD just accommodated to the downhill wave of roleplay going on.
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Franklin Saint rp, hell ye