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In their critique of the server, these two posts might seem at odds, but they actually complement each other and highlight an issue that's been plaguing LS-RP long before its 2021 shutdown. It could be argued, in fact, that it was specifically this issue that caused the shutdown itself, as at the time RAGE was nothing out of the ordinary and other communities were (and still are) a mere copycat of LS-RP at its finest. The issue is that LS-RP stopped innovating years ago. Ever since its opening, LS-RP had always been at the forefront of innovation when it came to both scripts and roleplay ideas. Systems like DamianC's vehicle scripts or Mmartin's garages and commissary were unheard of, and something so far ahead other communities could never hope to catch up. Likewise, on the creative side, you had absolute novelties in terms of roleplay, things that no other server had ever tried or even considered, factions that players themselves had ideated organically (often after lengthy fights against conservative staff members who only wanted to conserve their power) and dramatically helped move the narrative away from just cops and robbers into more cinematic territory, such as SADOC or Meadows DTO. People wanted to be part of LS-RP because some things were simply impossible to roleplay anywhere else. LS-RP was the only server among English-speaking ones to have a vibrant prison scene, boasting three prison gangs at most times and a correctional faction, just because a bunch of players figured they could try to make it work. Long before the trucking scene was taken over by these ridiculous poorly portrayed business conglomerates, players self-organized into Reg's Trucker Association, which was the only representation of an union you could find anywhere. With nothing but resolve and the belief that going back-and-forth on the forums could be as fun as shootouts and pursuits, a small band of people managed to convince LFM to let them organize a State Legislature and brought a completely new kind of roleplay to light (at least until LFM decided to tear it down with dynamite). Starting from a barebones taxi script that charged laughable rates, people set up Unity Taxi, which was so successful and provided so much roleplay to the civilian scene it broke the longstanding assumption that no business faction that wasn't illegal would ever be given official. When some players decided to found an Armenian gang, they were laughed at, as gangs had to mandatorily be black or latinos, until those Armenians proved through their roleplay that idea wasn't far-fetched at all and eventually earned official status, after which nobody laughed anymore. And although some other communities might want you to think they're the first to have ever thought of turning the docks into a source of roleplay, LS-RP had a working Port of Los Santos in 2015 already, and its security was far less obnoxious than any of the subsequent iterations. There was a constant, deeply ingrained sense of moving forward, not necessarily towards better roleplay or more popular ideas, but forward nonetheless. People weren't scared of exploring new avenues to create roleplay, dismantling things that didn't work anymore (and in some cases even those that worked but could be organized differently), making mistakes and going back to the drawing board for another round of thinking if need be. There's nothing like that now. The server is at a standstill. Aside from a few long-running remarkable concepts like Valenti, there's very little that sets LS-RP apart from other communities. And there's zero interest in changing this, because there's an almost pathological fear that trying something new is going to doom the server combined with a deep denial of the actual state of things. It became preferable to lose players dissatisfied by how things are going by the dozen and running the server into the ground than take a leap of faith and touch a status quo that has been the same for almost a decade at this point. Look no further than this very topic, where the Head of Legal Factions tells people with a straight face that "all legal factions are running optimally" despite the LSSD, again as this thread proves, barely shows face in game, is torn apart by internal strife and crippled by a structure that should've been reformed months ago but wasn't because "you're meant to portray LASD", "this is just SoCal" and other assorted platitudes. LS-RP didn't scare so easy. That's what made it great. The only way to bring back the old playerbase, other than a time machine, is to bring back what brought the old playerbase here in the first place: creativity and boldness and perhaps add into the mix a staff that works with the players instead of for or against them to create something unique. If you keep doing what you've been doing so far, you'll mostly get the same results. And while you can ignore reality, the current numbers prove very well that you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.

Anonymous report taken by Jerry Samson on 11/18/2024 regarding the crime rate on Winona Street. "You can't live on the outside, we're afraid to leave our kids outside, they'll beat them. It's a coke and weed epidemic in this neighborhood, the cops can't do shit to them..They already got all of South Central under control. Not to mention the gunshots..Every night we hear the sounds of semi automatics and handguns in the area, lucky they haven't got the big guns yet..We're talking Kalashnikov automatics and more. " Another anonymous report taken by Jerry Samson on 11/18/2024 regarding the crime rate on Winona Street. "Man, this is our lifestyle, feel me? We can't change it, we gotta chase the bag and stack the paper, namsaying? About the older residents? What can I say, fuck them, Ion care about their fucking kids, if they acting tough we on them, dead homies. This fucking Big ***** from Winona Avenue Gangsters, dog.. Remember, we run South Central, who's not with us - it's against us, you feel me hawmie? Alright, that's enough for now, move the mic out of my face and the cameras off me, I'm already sweating from this skimask." This thread is a small offshoot of the Love Stacking Kash (S/C DAMAGE GANG) besides the other two, they being the Lennox Youngboys and the Harmony Oaks Hustlers. If you wish to join you must do so either in character, or by trying to talk to me to establish the things.

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I have seen the amount of work and dedication Cake has put into the server and I agree with Cashew, people should thank her. Like her or not, if everyone dedicated half the time she did to scripting in their respective areas or IG role-playing, we wouldn't be having discussions like these. I've said this a few times and I will say it again. The server’s issues have nothing to do with new scripts. Most people can’t develop characters properly, can’t do passive RP, can’t create RP for others or themselves, can’t take a L and sometimes are not even bothered to get IG at all. Shit, some of these people can't even be decent human beings to others. And yet they feel entitled to have a dedicated team and have everything handed to them in silver plate. This is what REALLY needs to change. The only script you really need to have fun is /me and /do. Everything else is a bonus.

𝓐𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 𝓤𝓼 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News is often corrupt. The main outlets are influenced by money or individual status. Some stories don't reach the public because of external influence and that isn't right. Barry Martin is here, to uncover and report on everything and anything. Regardless of who is involved, the nature of the incident and the risks that come with it. Some people may refer to it as a suicide mission, others as a breath of fresh air. It's about bringing the core news to the public, while also reporting on the activities in and around the city. Keeping you up to date is our number one priority. 𝓦𝓱𝓸 𝓘𝓼 𝓑𝓪𝓻𝓻𝔂 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓽𝓲𝓷? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From the United Kingdom, Barry Martin migrated to Los Santos a few years ago. During his time living in and around LS, he has seen the news outlets, reporting on crime and other incidents. While these articles are fantastic, it's evident that some things are not making the news. Also, citizens in the city are being ignored in relation to their needs, which isn't right. Barry Martin is an experienced news reporter, covering topics across the world before visiting Los Santos. From reporting on the conflicts in the Middle East, to highlighting and ending corruption in local police forces. His effort has kept people safe and free from the influence of criminals and others. 𝓞𝓾𝓻 𝓜𝓲𝓼𝓼𝓲𝓸𝓷 𝓢𝓽𝓪𝓽𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Martin is an independent news reporter committed to uncovering the untold stories of Los Santos. With an unflinching dedication to truth and a passion for shining a light where others fear to look, Barry gives a voice to the unheard and exposes the realities that mainstream media ignores. Through fearless reporting, Barry aims to hold power accountable, champion transparency, and connect the people of Los Santos to the deeper truths that shape their lives. Every story matters, and Barry Martin is here to tell them. 𝓐𝓭𝓿𝓮𝓻𝓽𝓲𝓼𝓮𝓶𝓮𝓷𝓽𝓼 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News is an expensive service to provide. Through the stories produced, any business in Los Santos is eligible to advertise in our upcoming articles. From full page spreads to inserts into the front page, if you are looking to promote your business, Barry can help. 𝓞𝓞𝓒 𝓘𝓷𝓯𝓸𝓻𝓶𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓸𝓷 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (( The primary function of this, is to report on the more risky news articles, while also focusing on your typical news reporting too. Articles will vary, depending on the information available and will be released via the forums for you to read. If you have any questions in regards to this venture, please send me a forum message. ))

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Would like for more garage auctions to take place.

ELS definitely.

Homegrown Hustling

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38 Ways to Miss a Mark

I have already made a video on why the state of SAMP roleplay and LSRP as a whole. Yet staff does not acknowledge much of what the community says, myself included. Ive had staff become angry all because I critiqued their mapping. Most if not all the mapping that has been implemented during the years have been overly buggy, horribly optimized and mostly DO NOT FIT with the San Andreas atmosphere/aesthetic in my opinion. Idlewood pizza stacks is cancer and they need to move mallrats somewhere else. The server has been the literal same and nothing positive has actually happened, just more deathmatch, hackers, & complaints about the new system thats been implemented. The server needs a entire revamp itself if they even wanted to see a crumb of NEW players and not just returning ones for nostalgic purposes. We all know staff is gonna downplay this comment but it needs a revamp and there gonna say “what u think we should do?” and ill say it again REVAMP THE SERVER ITS 2024 GOING ON 2025. There is no reason why the most popular rp server has the most outdated features and wonder why people crash out over mere boredom. - REVAMP Los Santos. Time after time I ask staff to reach out to a youtuber who goes by the name Lisiu, he is a talented modder and specializes in making lore friendly SA style mapping. Staff tried to tell me his mapping is only for MTA but it is not and has been debunked several times already. You give people something new to look at they may just hop on - FIX THE ECONOMY, money is practically useless on this server, nobody wants to spend half of their time grinding just to get a shitbox house for 20 million. Homes need to undergo a new system. We have already discussed how the auction system is abused regularly - ADD MORE SCRIPTS, stop being so prideful and add some rpg like elements to the server. nobody wants to /me out everything they roleplay and a big example of that is a GYM! Add some workout animations, actually give us the opportunity to workout n stuff without it actually contributing to stats, we just want more stuff to roleplay. Other honorable mentions are: - A minimalistic stats/inventory system - Updated phone system - Updated weapons system (meaning 1 or 2 mags per weapons, different damages etc.) - Actual staff members who consider instead of downplaying peoples suggestions, i see more people look for bad than good under these threads.

I'm happy to say what I think needs to change to see an improvement in the player base. 1. Removal of "Education over Punishment" Right now there is an expectation that admins educate over punishing. Meaning a player can DM someone 2/3 times before we enter the space of actually being able to issue a light punishment. When I returned to the staff team and saw this, I was shocked! This is why we lost the standards and went from a "Heavy roleplay Server" and entered the realms of being more like a Cops & robbers server which is probably the best way to describe the current state of the community. I have standards, and luckily I have a set of rules which I used to govern. - I don't follow this rule, I never have and quite frankly I never will. I am all up for helping someone understand where they have gone wrong and explain to first time offenders, but if I think (On the balance of probabilities) deliberately broken a rule, you're being punished for it. I owe this standard to the rest of the community that uphold the rules, play fair and want to get on with their roleplay. I know what its like to be roleplaying with your mates, and to have a dumb ass come up to you trying to provoke you to desperately try provoke a reaction to justify pulling a gun and engaging in a shootout. It ruins everything and creates the very situation we're in. (Barely any street level gang roleplay.) 2. Removal of Inactive and Idle Administrators & Testers We have a large amount of inactive and completely Idle Administrators and Testers that are retaining their positions for absolutely no reason. I am all for people having breaks and having real life priorities however a large percentage have been on absence for months on end. And for the Admins I will break that down for you guys to understand in a more granular detail. We have too many Admins in key positions who are Idle holding their areas hostage over the title but don't want to actively work for it. Lead Admins: 7 Of the 7 admins, only 2 (28% activity) have been active in-game. (I acknowledge there's stuff behind the scenes, but your core function is to Lead Administrators, and you can't do that unless you're in-game.) Senior Admins: 11 Of the 11 admins, only 4 (36% activity) have been active in-game. Some haven't logged on in months at all. (One hasn't logged on the forums since October!) Game Admins: 16 Of the 16 admins, only 5 (31% activity) have been active in-game. (To be considered "Active" you must have a minimum of 30 hours spent IG per month. For context, some admins peak at 180 hours a month.) So when you look at the above figures for admins you have 11 active admins providing the community with 24 hours coverage 7 days a week. What this creates is admins becoming burnt out because they're carrying more work loads, people becoming unmotivated as a result of a lack of support, and this results in the figures dropping even more. I dread to think the state of the activity leading up to the new year. These 11 active admins are the same ones processing your player reports, refund requests, house changes, ban appeals and just about everything else on the forums! We're too afraid to loose inactive admins because "What does that fix?" it shows there's a consequence for not being active and pulling your weight, it allows space for development for those who are active to develop further into the admin team. It encourages growth and development for everyone. (Chain effect all the way down which in turn allows us to give a better service to our customers who are our community. 3. Faction Management I will be honest with this point, I do not see Illegal Faction Management as a functional service as it stands. It is not representative of the community, and rather a small circle that operates around it. You have so many voices in the illegal factions world that are experienced, giving the IFM the very solutions to the problems we're facing and instead of gripping onto those solutions and running with them to implement nothing is being done. Or we're shutting them down on the spot. There are Official Factions that went inactive after a week of getting it, remove them and make space the the numerous other factions that are absolute gems within the community. This needs to be done because once the illegal factions give up in their pursuit you'll have PD pursuing SD until one of the two decide to give up. Urgent and drastic leadership changes are needed in order to preserve the future of the illegal scene. I personally have been so put off from continuing my illegal roleplay knowing it will never lead anywhere. 4. Legal Faction Management One of the most catastrophic mistakes was the decision to move LFM from a full time person and move it under operations with no oversight from an experienced LEO role-player. Why a LEO role-player? The two biggest legal factions are PD and SD, and a great deal surrounds the two. Instead the role was merged across the responsibility of two people, one being the head of Illegal Factions - a clear conflict of interest. There is a huge issue with activity around the leadership of many of these legal factions and I have seen in the recent days a series of poor decisions being made about leadership changes. Faction Leaders need to be active in order to drive the faction, maintain and uphold standards and again provide the player base with a level of service! - Some days the server has 100+ players with 1 or 2 LEO's on, where is the realism in that? You then speak to the factions, and the response is, If faction management can't be asked why should I? Then you get nothing short of civil war on the server. Legal and Illegal factions are the most important entities on this server, and we're getting it so incredibly wrong. In both PD and SD we have absolutely exceptional leaders who aren't being given opportunities to lead simply because they're vocal and active and threaten the inactive leadership by outshining them, so instead of promoting them to run and help out, we're seeing them be supressed and ostracised to keep them at bay in order to safeguard certain individuals positions. Legal Faction Management needs to be owned by a Lead Admin that has experience in either PD or SD as a leader that can give them the full time attention they need, this doesn't mean dictating, this means obtaining feed back from the faction members, giving and equipping them to succeed. Right now we're seeing the polar opposite. 5. Pandering to the toxic few. There's a certain few individuals who keep popping up within these chats (Ban Evading) may I add who offer nothing of any value at all, and we're allowing their opinions and voices to plague and curtain the true issues we need to be addressing on this community. Some of these who I won't bother naming have been banned for a while for gross breaches of rules in-game and on the forums. Stop pandering to them and ignore their moot opinions. Finally my message to the community, a shit ton of effort goes into this community by Martin and Michael (prior to his departure) and I stand firmly beside Martin with this. He often is called lazy and that he doesn't care or he's not invested and simply wants money out of this etc etc...I've heard it all. I will defend him till kingdom come. I know how much he invests and how much he injects into this community to keep it running and he is let down by some of his staff, but also a community have a significant part to play here as well. Stop the toxicity, accept it will never be like 2015 or whatever era exists as being the golden age for LSRP for you, we're in 2024 going on 2025 and we're pushing through during different and challenging times around the world. For many this is a get-away from reality. Acknowledge the effort going into the community, appreciate the little things and be constructive and productive about the future of the community. Remember, pressing the red button and switching the community off once more is an easy option - we need to keep fingers away from that and start collectively driving this forward. If anyone has been offended (Staff or otherwise) by anything I have said, tough luck if the shoe fits lace that bitch up and own it. I own my flaws, and I will work on them but I will never give up on this community. Eren.