Cops & Robbers

[MobbingThru]

57 minutes ago, Howard1 said:

Another point lets not pretend that GANG roleplayers will not shoot PD/SD for /ticket ID 2500 "Driving without insurance". Also why are people hanging around their houses with M4/SHOTGUN in hand? Like hide it leave it inside your house, you can carry DGL with you why you have to flex your M4/SHOTGGUN in hand? 

Ticket? My faction and I were pulled over and told to step out of the vehicle to be searched when they’ve seen we had a shotgun or MP5 on us on multiple occasions, even though we’ve roleplayed them being covered. That stopped only when we’ve all bought insurance and they didn’t have a reason to make us step out anymore.

[Jamalio]

So not only are cops not providing roleplay but they're hacking too now?

 

Crazyyyyy

[MobbingThru]

6 minutes ago, Howard1 said:

Aight no way you are saying turn off their wallhacks, tell me in the last year, how many PD/SD member got banned for cheating and how many idlerats got banned?

You said you are in SD, yeah? Maybe not banned, but I’ve alerted Scumpy about an SD member that initiated a pursuit on us that he saw our weapons through the rolled up windows, and he took the according measures within his structure. You guys are shielded however, if WE, as illegal roleplayers would do that? We’d be banned for 3rd party mods.

[luo]

And the PD is not the brighest thing  but weak RP of illegals does all that.

 

Bells, Marat and before Barons were invved in illegal things for months so I have not once seen the PD camp on their turf or arrest them and shoot around.

 

You want to kill people on the streets wherever you go for stupid reasons, to deal and transport drugs wherever you go, to walk and drive around rhe city eith heavy weapons and no one will do anything to you.

 

[MobbingThru]

2 minutes ago, luo said:

And the PD is not the brighest thing  but weak RP of illegals does all that.

 

Bells, Marat and before Barons were invved in illegal things for months so I have not once seen the PD camp on their turf or arrest them and shoot around.

 

You want to kill people on the streets wherever you go for stupid reasons, to deal and transport drugs wherever you go, to walk and drive around rhe city eith heavy weapons and no one will do anything to you.

 

I’ve rped with both Bells and Marat. Even Bells members were running with M4s during a defense in the middle of Downtown, in which I’ve participated, however, PD patrols are focused on gang turfs rather than that, at this point, you can walk with an M4 out on the streets of downtown, but not in the alleyways of Crenshaw / Idlewood / El Corona and other bad areas.

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[Jamalio]

7 minutes ago, MobbingThru said:

You said you are in SD, yeah? Maybe not banned, but I’ve alerted Scumpy about an SD member that initiated a pursuit on us that he saw our weapons through the rolled up windows, and he took the according measures within his structure. You guys are shielded however, if WE, as illegal roleplayers would do that? We’d be banned for 3rd party mods.

 

Pretty sure Node has addressed this before in a report and advised that you need to alter your game to ensure that it shows you the rolled up window properly. So yeah, straight ban isn't sufficient.

 

I'd argue that it's the same case as bullet tracers.

 

7 minutes ago, luo said:

You want to kill people on the streets wherever you go for stupid reasons, to deal and transport drugs wherever you go, to walk and drive around rhe city eith heavy weapons and no one will do anything to you.

 

 

Yes.

 

4 minutes ago, MobbingThru said:

I’ve rped with both Bells and Marat. Even Bells was running with M4s during a defense in the middle of Downtown, however, PD patrols are focused on gang turfs rather than that, at this point, you can walk with an M4 out on the streets of downtown, but not in the alleyways of Crenshaw / Idlewood / El Corona and other bad areas.

 

Crenshaw, Idlewood, and El Corona are now considered the active playerbase locations. The odds on a crusier pulling up there is way higher than Downtown at the moment.

 

Move your faction to Downtown and notice the difference.

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[luo]

How many times in their existance have they taken out a weapon in a public place? 1 or maximum 2 times unlike everyone else, the city has cameras on every corner, cameras in front of the clubs where you kill people, all of that is recorded they dont need to see a weapon right now for there to be a chase, it could be an act from 1 month ago, but noone bases their RP such a thing anymore because of the poor RP if illegals, all illegals are RPing day by day, you fortget wha5 happened yesterday abd you want both PD and SD to forget it and let you do whatever you want in the next day

 

(This is not intended individually)

 

Edited 1 hour ago by luo

[Eren]

I'll chime in this discussion as the last thread I posted on has since been archived.

 

Speaking on behalf of SD leadership, we're striving to give the community the very best representation and a genuine LEO experience on the server. We've made endless changes to ensure we strike the balance right, and are able to account for our actions at any time. We welcome any feedback, whether positive or negative and you have our commitment that we will get back to you every time. 

 

I've personally removed ample people from the SD who do not conform to our standards, and we're committed to continuing this way. It really is about quality over quantity. If anyone wants to reach out to me about anything at all my discord is open for all.

 

However with that said, everyone has an equal responsibility to improve the current state. This isn't one faction vs the other, this isn't illegal vs legal, everyone has a part to play.

[Twelvebyseven]

I’ve been noticing gangs sitting/standing on their porches with big/long guns out lately. I’m guessing it’s because you guys are on defense and have them ready in case someone rolls up to attack, fair enough. But here’s the issue: AIR can still see them, even if you’re behind a bush wall or anywhere patrol can't see. AIR will call it out if you’re waving it around or moving with it.

The script support is better than ever right now. You can use /spawn to place objects, bags or whatever else may seem realistic to conceal the weapon. That way, they’ll stay hidden and even AIR won’t be able to spot them.
 

You must use /place if you’re RPing having a blanket over the weapon, or under the seat or on the floor while others can see it on your lap or stuck to your chest.
Whatever is seen on you is on you.

[Kartelboss]

41 minutes ago, Eren said:

I'll chime in this discussion as the last thread I posted on has since been archived.

 

Speaking on behalf of SD leadership, we're striving to give the community the very best representation and a genuine LEO experience on the server. We've made endless changes to ensure we strike the balance right, and are able to account for our actions at any time. We welcome any feedback, whether positive or negative and you have our commitment that we will get back to you every time. 

 

I've personally removed ample people from the SD who do not conform to our standards, and we're committed to continuing this way. It really is about quality over quantity. If anyone wants to reach out to me about anything at all my discord is open for all.

 

However with that said, everyone has an equal responsibility to improve the current state. This isn't one faction vs the other, this isn't illegal vs legal, everyone has a part to play.

Just to make it clear, when I posted this thread it was not aimed at SD at all, I've had nothing but fun interactions with them involving well role-played scenes. 

This is directed directly at PD.

 

Another thing I will add is Kane needs to just either CK on Colt or go patrol the suburbs. He's died multiple times and returns within the hour like nothing has happened repeating the same "Can I see your bulge" line. It's boring & this is a person who is meant to be setting examples for his PD colleagues & the server, given his position in the staff team. Meri is also following close behind in his footsteps with the trash Robocop RP.

 

This thread also isn't to have a tit for tat about gangs and how they portray themselves, make another thread for that. It's to discuss the current state of PD and that only, I believe all the serious responses from the LS-RP community should be looked into and taken into consideration. If there's a problem with illegal factions we should open a separate discussion to combat that. 

Edited 29 minutes ago by Kartelboss

[Consistency]

17 minutes ago, Twelvebyseven said:

I’ve been noticing gangs sitting/standing on their porches with big/long guns out lately. I’m guessing it’s because you guys are on defense and have them ready in case someone rolls up to attack, fair enough. But here’s the issue: AIR can still see them, even if you’re behind a bush wall or anywhere patrol can't see. AIR will call it out if you’re waving it around or moving with it.

The script support is better than ever right now. You can use /spawn to place objects, bags or whatever else may seem realistic to conceal the weapon. That way, they’ll stay hidden and even AIR won’t be able to spot them.
 

You must use /place if you’re RPing having a blanket over the weapon, or under the seat or on the floor while others can see it on your lap or stuck to your chest.
Whatever is seen on you is on you.

In regards to this both SD and PD helicopters aren't even meant to call in people with guns in the first place unless they're comitting a crime or pointing it at someone. Moving between cars or simply existing with it doesn't allow them report the sighting. This is a principle the LSPD has had has an internal faction rule for the last year and a half (Originally suggested on LSPD forums and implemented by Michael when he was Chief of Police.) I believe it was made a legal faction rule so it now applies across the board to both factions around a month or two ago. 

 

Just to pre-empt anyone who might have seen a situation take place last night which I ended up completely voiding. Helicopters cannot initiate these situations but yesterday a player informed the police ICly (basically snitched) of the whereabouts of those who were seen walking aroun with firearms infront of a complex by a ground (car) unit. So this is a good point to mention 07. Helicopters. If you believe someone broke this rule again; report it.

[Nightmare.]

8 minutes ago, Consistency said:

In regards to this both SD and PD helicopters aren't even meant to call in people with guns in the first place unless they're comitting a crime or pointing it at someone. Moving between cars or simply existing with it doesn't allow them report the sighting. This is a principle the LSPD has had has an internal faction rule for the last year and a half (Originally suggested on LSPD forums and implemented by Michael when he was Chief of Police.) I believe it was made a legal faction rule so it now applies across the board to both factions around a month or two ago. 

 

Just to pre-empt anyone who might have seen a situation take place last night which I ended up completely voiding. Helicopters cannot initiate these situations but yesterday a player informed the police ICly (basically snitched) of the whereabouts of those who were seen walking aroun with firearms infront of a complex by a ground (car) unit. So this is a good point to mention 07. Helicopters. If you believe someone broket his rule again report it.

I'll take from evidence from now on, but this "the heli saw it" has been used on us countless times. It's their main source of pulling up if we're hiding behind things on defence, with guns. 

[n0de101]

  

Again, like previously, the topic has devolved into a back and forth with names being thrown about in an inappropriate setting. I refer you all back to my message below, evidently there are issues from certain people's perspectives, so I look forward to receiving reports about them via the appropriate channels.

  

4 hours ago, n0de101 said:

I’ll repeat my message from the other thread, throwing around accusations on a post like this does nothing to solve any issues there might be. I encourage people to report via the proper mechanisms (contact faction leadership, contact HoLF, forum or staff reports) otherwise things will be missed.

 

No matter what people may think, reports are taken seriously and addressed with the relevant people - but they need to be made. As Head of Legal Factions I’ve made numerous changes over the past few months, all from the feedback of community members.