[Mid City Stoners 13]

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[Mid City Stoners 13]

 

The Mid City Stoners 13

The first ever Mid City Stoners was founded from various small groups of Mexicans coming together from one neighborhood, who had a vested interest in defending themselves, their families and their communities against rampant racism against Mexicans and other Latin Americans. Sometime in the 1970s, they got their name from as an omage to the Rolling Stones rock band as well their love for marijuana, a phenomenon that was seen all across the city. The 13 in their name initially stood for the M in marijuana. Eventually, they fell under the Sureno banner, just like all the other gangs around them.

 

Over the years, various movements arise around them, such as neighbouring Mexican Varrios going to war and shedding blood with one and other over the pettiest of things, with innocent people paying the price of someone else trying to play gangster, and the ever evolving dope game, making the poorest of families turn into the richest before their bloody downfall. This neighbourhood, just like any other during that time fell into the generational trap, of which would perhaps see no end, their dojo was Queen Anne Park located on West Boulevard in Mid City. The Mid City Stoners spread and found their place in various other neighbourhoods, specifically in Watts, Long Beach & Western Heights. That's where the heavy racial tension started to affect them, feuds with the Insane Crips, Rollin 20s Crips, Black P Stone's, and the Bounty Hunter Bloods developed a very anti-black identity.

 

The pain and suffering that these feuds brought led to many youngsters getting involved, wanting to get back for their varrio, the pride in being brown and down was official, the higher the socks... the downer the motherfucking fool, homie... They also found themselves feuding other Mexican neighborhoods, such as the Mara Salvatrucha 13s, Barrio Evil 13, Varrio 38st. Territorial battles began, and with enemies on all sides and little breathing room, the feuds were nothing but bloody.

 

Law Enforcement & Gang Enhancements

The Mid City Stoners made enough noise, especially in their bloody conflict with BPS, that it was obvious that law enforcement would crack down on them. With various notable members getting arrested, they got down with the Big House, and slapped the '13' at the end of their name. Being Sureño, down with the program and vicious led to several indictment throughout the decades that passed. Hundreds of members arrested, deported, or killed in the streets by law enforcement or their enemies, led to the loss of great territories and potential gains. Youngsters started not seeing the Mid City Stoners as the biggest, and the baddest. They'd rather get down with the enemies than the Mid Cities, but what happened to MCS13 happened to all their neighbours too.

 

The decline in activity was evident, the shortage in manpower and foot soldiers was clear, crime was on the low and more subtle crime was on the rise. Dope was being pushed and sold on the streets and the identity was never dropped, banging on the walls, punking your enemies every now and then carried on, it never saw a full stop kind of end.

 

The Current

Some of the cliques ended off being more active than others, some disappeared into nothing but history, perhaps killed off, or maybe hood hopped... But some things are for certain, various old notable figures of MCS13 were let loose, and they carried on their old stilo. A clique out by 33rd Street and Unity Boulevard, named: '33st Locos' - is seeing a notable increase in manpower and a new drive to bang their neighborhood.

 

 

Baby blues and chucks

Most convicts, most gangbangers, most soldiers say they find it difficult to relate to people who haven't lived the experiences which define their own life. The warrior life. While I understand the notion, I can't say I fully agree with it. I think it's a self-evident fact of subjective experience that applies to everyone, not just those of us who know what it means to take a life or live 25 years without ever really getting a good night's sleep. State pen is a whole other ball game. The racial politics are seriously hardcore and the caliber of criminal you're doing time with is something else entirely. Everything from harmless tweaker to hardcore murderer to pathetic sex offender can be found within those perimeter fences.

 

MCS, a small time clique which originated in the 80s by a bunch of cats bumping Rolling Stones. Stoners, petty thugs and mayhaps even skaters trying to stand up for each other, and carve out a name for themselves. Imagine a defiant teenager hooked on half a gram of yeska, digging his initials into the classroom table with a pen. A pen that had lost it's ink a long time ago. Their origins foreshadowed what was to come in the near decades as what emanated from a group of friends, into a full fledged group of sophisticated liquidators and merchants that traded in opium-fueled clouds, amphetamine crystals and death.

 

Such was the nature of the craddle of most Los Santos sureños. On the streets they all kicked the football, hung up their clothes and argued with the local crack fiend who was trying to drop a turd on their front-yard. One day you are shooting through the frame of your 1980 Chevrolet El Camino, next thing you know you have a belt wrapped around the surface of your elbow. A wicked brown smile, with teeth clad in bacteria and trench mouth, shooting up an eightball of black tar into your radial.

 

In 1985 a jaycat by the name of Alfonso Chavarria marched into the level four yard. Charged with three homicides, two charges on firearms, and a gang of other felonies, Chavarria thought that he was untouchable. Alas, that was not the case. You see, until Chavarria walked the line nobody had ever heard of "Mid City Stoners", let alone of what they were capable of doing. Regardless, everybody thought that the fool was bananas, and perhaps he was, however that cannot discredit his efforts into pulling his clique into the Mexican Mafia's fold.

 

Defacto facing life, Chavarria never backed down from a challenge. He beckoned it, and in turn bought more approbation and esteem to his gang. Over the course of the next seven years, the yard hosted twenty members of the Mid City Stoners. Where most of the elders were taught the basics of what it took to be a gangbanger, a chicano Gambino. The blonde kids from Vinewood Hills went to universities all over the state like Harvard, or perhaps Columbus, however we the ferocious attended the LS county, our college, our gladiator academy, and then proceeded to get schooled in SACF. San Andreas Correctional facility, that was our Harvard.

 

While MCS did not hold as much sway as White Fence, Florencia, or perhaps the Avenues, the Pico Union thugs did establish themselves as a formidable force and even went out of their way to graduate one of their own as a carnal until he got stabbed over a drug debt. Since then their influence has faltered, a few figures remain however they're known as no good dopeheads, the likes being Frank "Grumpy" Barrio and Freddie "Mercury" Tramposo.

[First Impressions]

The economy is a lot more forgiving than people think it is. Yes cars are $20,000 but you're splitting that into 40 weekly payments. That's $500 a week and you get $285 paychecks an hour. I fail to see how this means a daily grind. You can't dedicate 2 hours a week?

 

And when it comes to drugs and guns, this server is actually far more accessible price wise. You're not paying 20-30k for a pistol and 100k+ for a rifle, not even in the context of this server's economy. I just think people don't get the financing system, which granted could use some more work.

[Player POV Problems & Incentivizing Roleplay]

3 hours ago, trashstar said:

 

with all due respect you can't rely on factions to circulate the market either, as seen on the previous server, where deagles were being sold for 150k each because faction leaders kept valuable illegal assets within their circle. i don't see how adopting nearly the same system is beneficial (instead of faction tokens you're giving limited darknet access)

 

it doesn't matter how many weapons you flood these factions with. they'll all be hoarded across a bunch of alts and friends because having access to 100 weapons is infinitely better than selling them off and holding 5. you can say you have measures in place to prevent hoarding, but let's be honest, you really don't. you can trickle weapons down through 20 different people and they still won't leave the network of the faction that created them

 

its essentially the same thing as before, where you have to lick the shoes of mafiosos and crip members just to get a taste of illegal weapon rp. there is absolutely no reason to red tape darknet access unless you want to funnel artificial power to certain criminal groups

 

open it up and let anyone apply apply based on the merit of their character

I'm sure individuals will be allowed to apply and be granted supplier status further down the line. It hasn't even been two weeks. RP with factions and you can get a gun. They're far more readily available than the SAMP server.

[UFC Discussions]

5 hours ago, Jit said:

Nah, I know  it’s every sport but it’s usually always the UFC more than others. Theirs a 10+ minute video on YouTube called “UFC Hypetrains getting destroyed”

 

if Izzy wants to beat Jan he can’t fight him to a decision otherwise if he loses again it’ll be bad for his legacy imo

 

its funny you told me that information about Colby just the other day I just seen a video of him saying he doesn’t cut made me think about ur comment.

 

speaking of I get the vibe you’re pretty into the UFC.

 

what’s your take on the masvidal aftermath? Honestly embarrassing imo for him getting smashed in the ring then getting arrested cus he’s salty.

 

I used to hate Colby but now I’m a fan hopefully he gets to face and ends poriers career.

i'm never watching a masvidal fight again. stayed up till 8am to see that shitfest of a fight. now i just dislike both of em.

[Custom Hoods - Map Additions]

On 3/4/2022 at 1:29 AM, g1zmo said:

if somebody interested:

 

When people ask to remove certain objects/buildings to add residential areas and other stuff instead of them, I think that's a pretty fair request. People who know the GTA V Los Santos map well also know that HD versions of South Central and East Los have their own number of problems, which creates not the most pleasant conditions when it comes to RP there. 

 

For example:

1. Scale in general. Unlike GTA SA LS, where we had a fairly small city, it still had a lot of streets, roads, dead-ends and spots, which created a sense of real scale. In the case of GTA V and specifically South Central, we actually have only a couple of main roads, which are very wide and take all the free space away. Just count how few streets there are in South Los Santos if you compare it to big brother.

 

 

 

2. Infrastructure. Don't get me wrong, but when I drive around a city on the West Coast, where it's always sunny and palm trees are mixed with gangsters everywhere, I definitely don't expect to see such a huge number of factories, abandoned businesses and industrial buildings. Just take a look at the Rancho, or Cypress Flats. You feel like you're in some kind of Detroit. If we go back to GTA SA again, we can take Willowfield and El Corona as examples. There was a huge dump and quite a lot of industrial buildings, but they never created a problem, because in the first place of these areas was the creation of residential infrastructure (apartments, housing projects, swap meets etc.). GTA V lack of all this and honestly has a lot of useless/unused areas. 

 

 

3. Compressed and missed areas. For me, the main advantage of the GTA SA map was that with such a small size, old Los Santos contained almost all the districts of Los Angeles, which made it possible to show the game of a particular gang as accurately as possible. Like Ganton = Compton, Jefferson = Watts, El Corona = Lennox, East Beach = Long Beach, Idlewood = Inglewood etc. In the case of GTA 5, there are many areas that are a mixture of several real neighbourhoods at once (Rancho - Watts + Florence, Strawberry - Inglewood + Crenshaw, Davis - Compton + Slauson), and some are not represented in the game at all (Long Beach). This is often the reason why players create factions in areas that are not created for gang RP (Vespucci Beach, Morningwood, most of the Mirror Park, etc.). It becomes very crowded with time and players literally have to fight for a COUPLE OF HOUSES.

 

So.. I actually agree that South LS and East Los better should be expanded, overhauled and maybe even gentrified at some places. This would greatly improve the immersion in the atmosphere, for which everyone is here.

 

This mirrors exactly what I feel about GTAV's map too. While San Andreas' Los Santos is smaller, the game was built around gangs and gang warfare. A lot of different hoods had representation, while West and Central LS were condensed instead. Now, the city's much larger but South LS especially feels smaller and less diverse than San Andreas.

[Re: San Andreas and California (LSRP Lore, community poll by xander11)]

completely on board with this.

[50p]

joey prisco...

[Nightlife Roleplay]

please map in bathrooms inside clubs.

[Re: San Andreas and California (LSRP Lore, community poll by xander11)]

11 minutes ago, IdleStacks said:

I believe we should be allowed to roleplay weapons as whatever we want as long as they're fairly similar. Roleplaying my AK as a vz. 58 or my SNS as a PF-9 isn't exactly going to hurt anyone.

 

But the gun you have in the script won't. It will do the same damage, expend the same ammunition and be reloaded the same way. It doesn't matter if you're RPing having some piece of shit Jimenez Arms 9mm or a modern Taurus g3c. It's just RP flavor that never hurt anyone and can add to a character. Stifling roleplay like this is incredibly unnecessary for the very few gains to be had.

but they won't. there is a huge amount of guns of different calibers, firing rates. magazine sizes and prices that will be used. they will look and function differently. while I do understand that you may wish to RP your 9mm Glock 17 as a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield, you'll be able to actually own that specific model of that specific gun.

[San Andreas and California co-existing? (LSRP Lore)]

3 hours ago, RGelfuso said:

How about a compromise and say that San Andreas replaces California but that San Andreas takes the land that California as a state occupies, and Los Santos aka Los Angeles is situated on an island off the coast of California?

 

I understand the previous point that it would not make sense to have the US' second largest city on a separate island, but that is trivial as obviously Los Santos in this universe is not the size of Los Angeles in any way. Having it like this would mean we don't just ignore that we are obviously roleplaying on an island and any characters "visiting" San Fierro or Las Venturas would hop on an imaginary flight or boat to the mainland.  

 

See the image in the spoiler below to see a rough idea of how this would operate. Obviously, the image is comparing the sizes of LS and LA, but for roleplay purposes imagine that LA was not there, or possibly even roleplay that Las Venturas and San Fierro as they exist in GTA SA occupied that space. Like this, it would only be a short flight to get from Los Santos international to the mainland. 

 

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I'm not too bothered by either prospect in all honesty as it makes little difference to the actual roleplay, but a line in the sand should be drawn so everyone knows where they stand. 

theres no need to portray it as an island whatsoever. as the GTA V wiki says:

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 Lester mentioning in The Paleto Score that the body of water north of Paleto Bay is actually a river.

 

The GTA V map is a small portion of the State of San Andreas, It's in the fact the southern-most tip. There are multiple other cities in the state of San Andreas and to assume that the entire state is the playable map is stupid. Management needs to make an official ruling, but I personally and most other people I've talked will not be role-playing the existance of California, or that San Anne is an island.