Where did everyone go

[vee]

Sadly I'll have to lean on the same side as the comments above, fact is, the server’s overstaffed and half the staff aren’t even proper SAMP admins. The ones left are either incompetent or too tangled up in everything. When the people meant to enforce rules are the same ones writing and benefiting from them, the system collapses into a self-serving circle. The same guy doing drug schemes is the main investigator, the same guy doing company schemes is doing events, and I can keep going. Feels like 40% of the playerbase are staff "stakeholders". I've tried my best to add value to this server either through staff applications, scheme applications, company requests, etc. and every time I was not allowed to have the things that would develop my RP or allow me to have a smidge chance to change something. Additionally I've pointed out many times that the server glorifies illegal RP to the point where any attempt to do something outside of that scene feels like a waste of time. As for me - I’m stepping away from LS-RP entirely. I’ll be exploring other RP platforms and focusing on other games for now. You can only polish the same broken machine for so long. Last Friday at 8 PM my time the server had 25 players on and I'm not about to lose sleep just to meet someone I probably won't even enjoy playing with.

Edited Monday at 07:07 PM by vee

[Gnarp]

1 hour ago, vee said:

Additionally I've pointed out many times that the server glorifies illegal RP to the point where any attempt to do something outside of that scene feels like a waste of time. 

How exactly does the server glorify illegal roleplay over anything else? There's tens of company features, people make millions out of it while investing 1/4 the effort it takes into running an illegal faction.

I've interacted with both sides of the server at length, and I can safely say that if I ever wanted to make it 'big' in terms of gaining assets, world presence, or generally a crowd to roleplay with - I'd stick to running a company. 

 

Civilian/Company roleplayers get access to licensed guns, free vehicles, large financial handouts, and businesses that they can acquire for dirt cheap; those pump out 5x their monthly upkeep through entrance fees alone.

Not to mention the population is mainly made up of non-faction players and police factions; who don't shy away from overkilling any criminal interaction they have the pleasure of witnessing. 

 

The server's tides are balanced, if not completely tilted towards your side. 

[Martinela]

Almost 90 players tonight. Not bad for a server that’s “dead” and “done”. 
 

Let’s keep it up and hopefully get staff to be more participating.

[Spellwoven]

Had more fun with 20 players that want to roleplay without - BUY SELL GUNS DRUGS

Then with 200+ people who are just driving around, DMing, trucking
It's not about the playerbase, it's about how people enjoy and roleplay.

I was also DMed by a random with an M4 but who cares
People should try new types of roleplay, make a new char with a fresh start ilegal or legal.
Take screens, develop your char, listen to music while you play n just enjoy it while you can

[kamikaze]

This server is a laughing stock now and on a one way cruise to closure. You have idiots in the staff team who just became staff when the server was dying who take they're job wayyyy too seriously. Putting themselves in situations and only looking at it one-sided, lack of roleplay quality and general understanding about illegal faction scenarios, mallrat mentality-- I can go on and on. I'm suprised this thread even made it this far because normally transparent threads like this that consists of other players keeping it real are quick to get shutdown, I remember back on the old forums around this time I wanna say in 2019 somebody made a thread like this and it was all type of people commenting dropping they're 2 cents, even ex & current staff members.  I feel like shouldn't no bans be issued unless it's for hacks. When you're losing a player or three everyday on average and peaking at any number besides 100 are the bare minimum you shouldn't have the luxury to ban mfs and make them wait an appeal out-- especially on this old ass game. LSRP is not the same LSRP it once was. DMers are the main reason this server is alive and even thought about. The faction scene specifically on the illegal side is a joke aswell. Gang roleplay been watered down on here by turkish and islamic pakistans stealing old threads and saying " Chea' " , " Bluh' " & " Cuh" nonstop on top of having run on sentences in they're screenshots and standing on the block lined up like statues.  Characters coming out the woodworks with no development , Unrealistic RP, no build up of anything and most people on the server with an exception of a few don't even know how to create roleplay for themselves.. instead they just wait around and piggy back off someone who know's how to create RP. What really did it was when everyone account's got wiped if they didn't login back in July or August-- whcihever date that was.  You have the owner of the server himself going on " leave "  & having people sit in his section of the ban appeal waiting weeks , months maybe a full year before getting a response out of him. people who choose to wait that long are the potential players who /might/ keep the server alive. LSRP V also a fail. They should just pull the plug on everthing ATP.  Cops and Staff makeup for pretty much half the server when it's peak time.  I can't stress this enough this enough that the staff team is the reason this server is declining. When Damien , Surreal & Ben was still in the management on top of Westside holding down IFC the server still had some potential. Don't know what they got going on now.

Edited 37 minutes ago by kamikaze

[NevadaUSA]

I joined this server pretty late, last November. Played very actively, until March, took a long break, just returned like September or so. Before I took a break, everyone was saying the server's dying blablabla, but I came back months later and it's still active, I still found the same people RPing the same thing as when I took the break. What I found is that here, even with small playerbase, there's more RP than on a large server with hundreds of players. Can we just not say SAMP is dead?! I've seen SAMP servers currently with 700+ players. Whining is not going to solve anything.

 

Before I tried GTA:V RP, I thought SAMP was cooked, too, but after going on a heavy text RP server there, I realized it's not the case. V offers a different kind of RP than SAMP.  The two can coexist with each other. Statistically, it's more likely to find people who are willing to play on LS-RP than not.

 

Food for thought:

• Gamers worldwide: ~3.2 billion

• Even if only 0.01% of gamers are interested in text-based RP, that’s 320,000 potential players.

• A healthy server only needs 400–500 players.

My question to everyone: how do you expect more players if the only people knowing about LS-RP either accidentally found it or came back for the nostalgia? Advertising is the key to get more players. I believe that more people can run SAMP than GTA:V. 

Edited 7 hours ago by NevadaUSA

[Browman1945]

5 hours ago, kamikaze said:

This server is a laughing stock now and on a one way cruise to closure. You have idiots in the staff team who just became staff when the server was dying who take they're job wayyyy too seriously. Putting themselves in situations and only looking at it one-sided, lack of roleplay quality and general understanding about illegal faction scenarios, mallrat mentality-- I can go on and on. I'm suprised this thread even made it this far because normally transparent threads like this that consists of other players keeping it real are quick to get shutdown, I remember back on the old forums around this time I wanna say in 2019 somebody made a thread like this and it was all type of people commenting dropping they're 2 cents, even ex & current staff members.  I feel like shouldn't no bans be issued unless it's for hacks. When you're losing a player or three everyday on average and peaking at any number besides 100 are the bare minimum you shouldn't have the luxury to ban mfs and make them wait an appeal out-- especially on this old ass game. LSRP is not the same LSRP it once was. Can't even have a DM war and no reporting without weird ass admins interfering.. even when both sides agree to no reporting. DMers are the main reason this server is alive and even thought about. The faction scene specifically on the illegal side is a joke aswell. Gang roleplay been watered down on here by turkish and islamic pakistans stealing old threads and saying " Chea' " , " Bluh' " & " Cuh" nonstop on top of having run on sentences in they're screenshots and standing on the block lined up like statues.  Characters coming out the woodworks with no development , Unrealistic RP, no build up of anything and most people on the server with an exception of a few don't even know how to create roleplay for themselves.. instead they just wait around and piggy back off someone who know's how to create RP. What really did it was when everyone account's got wiped if they didn't login back in July or August-- whcihever date that was.  You have the owner of the server himself going on " leave "  & having people sit in his section of the ban appeal waiting weeks , months maybe a full year before getting a response out of him. people who choose to wait that long are the potential players who /might/ keep the server alive. LSRP V also a fail. They should just pull the plug on everthing ATP.  Cops and Staff makeup for pretty much half the server when it's peak time.  I can't stress this enough this enough that the staff team is the reason this server is declining. When Damien , Surreal & Ben was still in the management on top of Westside holding down IFC the server still had some potential. Don't know what they got going on now.

cc : @fruit