[Favorite SAMP LS-RP memory]

8 hours ago, ImperiumXVII said:

i remember being rpg'd at a bank robbery once, was it market bank/next to the dealership?

It may have been more of a common tactic than I thought lol. Nah I remember it was some point after Hoover bank was added, because our escape plan was to make our way to some boats and lose most of the cops before hiding outside of LS. 

[Favorite SAMP LS-RP memory]

Don't know if anyone is still around from the group, but when I was in the SD, at some point a decent chunk of us would log into alts and go do crazy shit. The trucking job had just been released, so we'd all arm ourselves to the teeth with AK's and M4's and go out robbing people. Robbing limit was 5k, guns were reasonably cheap, and there'd be fuck all SD patrolling because half the faction that was online was on alts. The few unlucky cops that saw us robbing people were usually alone and stood no chance against 2 cars and atleast 5 people with assault rifles driveby'ing.

 

At one point we tried and failed to do a bank robbery, where someone still had an RPG from back when they were still in the game and shot it at the cops before we stormed out shooting. The whole thing was admin approved and supervised too, looking back that was a pretty dope era of the server.

[LS:RP]

On 2/26/2023 at 2:31 AM, jack said:

All of you need to join the Discord to see continuous development.

 

Instead of shit posting on here.

 

https://discord.gg/uuS3yeUK5v

I wouldn't really consider commit descriptions with no real reference points as any real sign of "continuous development". The git updates don't tell us anything except that something is being worked on. It doesn't give any insight into the only thing people want to know, a time frame for when this thing might be ready. 

 

Instead of complaining about shit posting on the forums and dodging legitimate criticisms, give people some reason to believe that the server will release before GTA VI.

[Pride aside, could someone please re-open the old forums before all the screenshots fade away...]

My guess would be that hosting the forum would be somewhat costly, considering how big the database must be. I get the feeling though that the old forums are gone forever, otherwise it would've been an easy way to relieve the anger of everyone and probably would've been done around Feb or July 2022. Would it come as a surprise to anyone if the entire forum was lost ages ago and no one has had the balls to say it? 

 

Why couldn't the community have had some time to actually save some shit and preserve it before it was taken down over night.  Considering most people donated at one point or another, it was a shitty thing to do then and it's still a shitty thing to do now. 

[LS:RP]

5 hours ago, HelixProject said:

Then why the fuck is it so hard to post REGULAR dev updates on the site? Instead of waiting until the entire community is pissed off at you. The communication, transparency and lack of engagement from Mmartin himself is abysmal. 

There's no news about release, months after the latest 'expected' launch date. How can anyone in their right mind still be supportive of a project that has repeatedly failed to deliver ANYTHING and fails to keep the WIDER community informed of progress, the odd twitch stream DOES NOT count. We want monthly updates, we want COMMUNICATION. Not snide remarks from Kane / other staff whenever anyone has anything critical to say.

It's not difficult..

 

Exactly. The delays aren't even really the issue, it's the lack of communication that is the worst part. SAMP LSRP relied a lot on the community having a level of respect for one another. It's going to be very hard to regain the respect of the community after consistently lying and letting everyone down for this entire year. 

 

The thing that really annoyed me was when a release date for the server was being teased and promised like 6 months ago, and then they basically gaslighted everyone by not giving a release date at all and acting as if they hadn't just broken a promise. Instead of giving the community an idea of when the server would be released, they basically just gave themselves permission to continue delaying the project without needing to communicate with anyone. 

 

Also, would it kill the leads to apologize for this shit show? Would it kill them to explain what failures lead to the continuous delays and terrible communication with the community? Delaying a release is always a risk in this type of venture, but theres a point where delaying for so long is a sign of incompetence at some level. If they see nothing wrong with how they've acted throughout the last year then I can't imagine this community has much of a future. 

[LS-RP, competition point of interest, 1:1 realism/fun:]

On 3/16/2022 at 8:42 AM, Ronnie2Polez said:

I miss the old LSRP back in '15-'16 when you could go to the mall one evening and hang out with other mallrats, some idiot comes up with a bat and starts a massive brawl, police and paramedics come etc. It was chaos but it was fun. Realistic? Not at all.

 

On 3/16/2022 at 10:01 AM, Chuckles said:

There  was no real standard effectuated until probably 2017-2018. This is the timeframe many of us would consider the 'golden age' of LSRP. What nostalgia does is bring you back in time-- to a time where 'roleplay' was a glorified game of cops and robbers. Everything was mediocre pre-2016/2017, the characters, the factions, and the staff.

Just goes to show how everyones opinions on what made LSRP great are varied. I thought every year after 2015 the RP got progressively worse and the game became less enjoyable.

 

I see both sides of the realistic-fun spectrum arguements and think it should be a hybrid, like it was back in the day. I strongly feel like 2 things that massively kneecapped and continued the downward spiral of the SAMP server were the restrictions against selling weapons attained through a weapons permit and the reduction and eventual rare use of tasers. The banning of selling legally bought weapons made the gun trade way too restrictive to a point where a genuine money making scheme arose of people with access to weapon suppliers stockpiling weapons for years on end. As this happened people became more fearless, since guns were hard to find the amount of cars being stolen just looking for guns increased. Having a gun made you more likely to get robbed instead of less. The increase in difficulty finding guns meant that people were less likely to accept a loss in a situation that would lead them to losing their weapons, where in the past people didn't mind as much because it only took 3.5k (around 10k after you factor in being scammed a couple times) and some looking around to get another one. I remember before this being arrested so many times with guns, at a point where shooting a cop purely because you had and could lose your gun would get you ajailed, as would rambo'ing 5 different cops unrealistically. 

 

Bats became more common because they were the only weapon low level/poor people could get their hands on. And you started seeing shit like massive baseball bat fights occuring more often and often, something that previously only occurred when two gangs were having a little bit of tension. And then PD/SD started to progressively use their tasers less. Yes, the Damian excuse of Stark manufactured tasers were a little unrealistic and maybe even overused (I remember borderline sniping people with them), but they balanced the game a bit. I'm not sure whether some new rules came in or what, but when cops started using them less they also stopped bothering as much with less exciting things. People fighting infront of cops KNOWING that they aren't going to do anything, when previously if they were using a bat they'd have been tased within seconds. It seemed strongly like cops all but stopped doing any foot chases because they would become prolonged and boring.

 

tl;dr the game needs to be somewhat balanced and fun before the RP is prioritised. People will disregard good RP in favor of fun if that's their only option. If unrealistic things are necessary to balance the game then consider how they will fit the "fun" element. Tasers for a period unrealistically balanced the game for the greater good, restricting selling legal weapons unrealistically made the game less fun.

[LS:RP]

10 hours ago, ImperiumXVII said:

There isn't a "truth" to expose; there's no conspiracy or major event to hide.

Really? Because it looks a lot like these "uncontrollable" events have happened purely because the entire project either lives or dies depending on a single person. If it's true, which from all accounts it appears to be, it'd outline just how incompetently this project operates. Attempts the hide this incompetency would be enough to call it a conspiracy.