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I generally don't mind new, inexperienced players wetting their feet here. One of the most rewarding things you can do as a player or faction leader is help somebody evolve. And a lot of the time these inexperienced players are willing to learn. The difference in standard between new players and those of the "golden era" is microscopic. A lot of these returning players come back at that same level where the quality wasn't as good as it is now. So the comparison between "new" and "old" is somewhat of a paradox to begin with. The most important factor would be to set the precedent so that the standard doesn't degenerate the more new, or old, players join. I think the biggest problem most servers have is that they are happy with the status quo and often build their rules and enforcement around this. Players are a by-product of their surroundings, not their circumstance. In short, encourage new players but don't glorify them for doing what they're doing wrong. Educate them instead. Criticising new players (constructively) or players who come from different backgrounds is just as helpful as welcoming them is.

Hey everyone, Hope everyone's doing well and getting ready for the holiday season. December was always special around LS-RP, I remember all the treasure hunts and winter/Christmas events we used to hold. I'm looking forward to seeing something like that in-game again as we celebrate the season... next year. It's been quite challenging over the last few months to keep track of the remaining work. Trying to keep tabs on all the features in my brain has proven quite inefficient, so instead of trying to remember what I'm supposed to be doing and which features are left to develop or test, we made a list. This list itemized every single outstanding feature or activity we've yet to complete before the server is launch-ready. As I was compiling this list a few weeks ago I realized that even that isn't enough. Really, is the trucking system the same as a phone call? Much different; so we started adding estimates to everything. 4 hours to finish phone calls, 16 hours to finish trucking, 2 hours here 4 there and so on. I've done estimations on an enterprise level in the past and it's a known secret that at the start of the project, unless you have a thorough specification, they're just made up numbers. Nobody knows and everyone's guess is meaningless, you're just working in a ballpark. Since we're nearing the end of the initial development, we're in a different position and it's much easier for us to list out all the things we've yet to do. So we've done that, and estimated how much it'll take. Based on these numbers, we realized that we've underestimated the amount of work remaining when we scheduled the release for Q4 2021. With the rest of the leadership, we were facing the following options: Option 1: Release in Q4 2021. We release in Q4 2021, as late as possible, but still meet the deadline. This gives us the pros of keeping up on our promise and taking advantage of the hype the LS-RP project currently has. The downside of this option is that we'd be releasing a game mode without a lot of important features and with a lot of potential bugs, since we'd have to be adding new features all the way to the launch date. Lacking features and bugs will result in a disappointed community and a potential loss of players. Option 2: Postpone the release for the 2nd time. We delay the release a bit. This allows us to work on features we deem essential but didn't manage to complete just yet. We have enough time to properly test these features (shoutout to our staff by the way - you've done amazing job testing so far). The dreaded disadvantage of going with this option is that we won't deliver on our promise that we'd release Q4, which can lead to the community being disappointed, leading to a potential loss of players. Which one would you choose? Let me know. Since we started deliberating postponing again, I had to go back and read my statement when we had to postpone to Q4. Here's a quote from that post: As I'm reading that I realize that we're in the very same situation now - how come though? Did nothing change since September? There's been no major inactivity for any of the devs or leads, or any "major roadblocks" I could think of that'd cause this delay. I tried to identify the reasons why we're delaying again and this is what I got: - We underestimated the amount of work remaining. The estimate that we should be done by Q4 was not backed by any real numbers, but rather a "gut feeling". - We've added new things to the scope for release. Those things were usually features which we deemed essential but forgot about them early on; or were only made aware of them now. - We spent a lot of time focusing on detail and polish of existing features. - Personal and professional obligations of the team, although this one was kept to a surprising minimum during Q4. After hours of deliberation, we chose option 2. We've taken several steps to make sure this is the last date we give you. We wanted to work towards a concrete date instead of a vague time range ("summer", "q4"). - As mentioned previously, we made an itemized of all remaining features and activities until we're release-ready. - We've added a estimate in hours to every remaining item or activity. - We're accounting for a % of risk dedicated to fixing bugs and unforeseen difficulties. This risk is currently set to 10%. - We've created metrics to monitor whether we're ahead of, or behind schedule. This allows us to play with the scope and reevaluate our current assignments if we're falling behind schedule. Based on these steps and metrics, we came up with the official release date of LS-RP:V on February 24th, 2022. Community Involvement With the release being postponed by just a bit over month and a half, we're looking for ways to keep the community engaged with what we're doing. Here's some milestones you can look forward to in the near future: - Character Customization made available ahead of launch, first for Patrons and later for the general public. - Character Applications made available ahead of launch to the general public. - Staff Reinstatements opening ahead to get ready for launch. The concrete dates of each will be announced separately at one point or another; but we're aiming to release the character customization server this week. There's a few more things we've up our sleeves to keep the community engaged, but I don't want to announce them just yet as they're not as thought through as the rest. If you have any ideas yourself, my inbox is always open. Progress Update I'll try to include a progress update where it makes sense when I write these posts. This should give you the idea of where we are in terms of the schedule and how much work is remaining in different parts of the code. Here's the current status: I've been on a mission to be as transparent as reasonably possible during the development of LS-RP:V. I had a lot to learn from the SA-MP days and I sincerely hope that the information we give you is keeping you excited during the wait; whether it's snippets, blog posts or just random talks on Discord. It's hard at times as we don't want to give away too much for several reasons. Sharing this progress update is yet another step in trying to balance out communication, element of surprise and competitive advantage. Closing Statement I understand any and all feelings of frustration at the announcement today. It's not fun news, but at the same time it's good news. It allows us to work on delivering what we've initially set out to make. I'd like to express my gratitude to the entire staff team who has been actively engaging in improving the server's features and standing behind the project the whole time; to the patrons who keep our infrastructure bills on time and to the community for believing in the project. Thank you for being understanding. If you'd like to be closer to the action, consider joining our discord at https://discord.gg/ls-rp, where we post snippets of our work. Kind regards and happy holiday season, Mmartin on behalf of LS-RP Staff

Hey all, Today I'm happy to showcase to you guys how far along we've came with our damage system which is just about complete. It's been really fun testing and we can't wait for you guys to hop in game soon and experience it yourself. Check out this video by @Xanakin to see more about it: We really brainstormed how to handle damages and different type of weapons and I think we came out with a pretty solid system. We currently have more than 60 custom inventory weapons implemented and more than 20 different ammo types. Each weapon will have a base damage and a list of compatible ammo and a range of distances it can fire accurately and how far. V's native range for hitting targets is quite large so this was necessary to do. Each ammo type will be configured with a different multiplier. So some types of ammo will be stronger, some will be weaker and so forth. When it comes to deciding how much damage it's time to give, it all comes down to these factors: base damage, ammo multiplier, distance and bodypart. Some bodyparts will increase your damage, and some may lower it. Another part of our system that I'm quite happy about is the attachment system! We've added just about every weapon component that exists on GTA V and that will all be accessible. As demonstrated in the video, you'll be able to have each piece in your inventory and use them on weapons it's compatible with (not all can have attachments)! Here's an example of some of the pistols and their ammo types we've added: (not final!) thead tr {background-color: ActiveCaption; color: CaptionText;} th, td {vertical-align: top; font-family: "Segoe UI", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; padding: 3px; } table, td {border: 1px solid silver;} table {border-collapse: collapse;} thead .col0 {width: 189px;} thead .col1 {width: 164px;} Weapons Ammo Types LSPD SWAT Staccato P 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP H&K USP 9 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Beretta 92FS 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Glock 19 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP FN 509 MRD-LE 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Glock 17 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Beretta 92X 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Glock 21 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Sig Sauer P320 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Sig Sauer P365X 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Glock 43X 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Kimber Custom LW .45ACP FMJ, .45ACP JHP Colt 1911 Classic .45ACP FMJ, .45ACP JHP Smith & Wesson 4506 .45ACP FMJ, .45ACP JHP Smith & Wesson M&P9 M2.0 9mm FMJ, 9mm JHP Thank you all once again for your continued support! Regards, Kane

LS:RP, originally being an edit of the Godfather, was from it's core a complicated form of cops and robbers role play. While many players found different avenues to create and play as characters with varying success outside of this meta, there is no denying that the root of the game, the majority of the player base, and the systems created to facilitate role play were all centered around law enforcement and criminal factions respectively. If you're looking for success, I believe it's important to reconcile that the GTA RP landscape seems to've changed. While I won't explicitly criticize or promote the community in saying this: I find it funny when people rail against certain systems GTA:W uses, a frequent highlight being the lack of focus the overall community has on illegal factions. With what I've observed through admittedly a low amount of play (about ~100-150 hours), I think a hard pill that many of the old guard players refuse to swallow is that you are not the majority demographic anymore. While a good amount of LS:RP players had made the trip to GTA:W, I've noticed through Discord hopping and communicating with players that a majority of them stem from more social role playing games, many of which I'd say are hardly compatible with the LS:RP C&R format. GTA:W seems to deliberately cater to these players, and rightfully so. The expectation that illegal / old guard role players should be center stage is a remnant of the attitude of old LS:RP. Frankly put: I fully believe that in order to be competitive in the market, the former approach of leaving these players to their own devices simply is no longer possible. The largest takeaway I have from my theory is that players beget players. I don't think it's reasonable to expect LS:RP to be competitive in the market if the primary goal is to simply bring the old community into the new platform. The remaining veterans aren't going to make the switch if the player counts are glaringly in favor of the communities they're already in, and the opposite demo won't make the switch unless they're compelled with very good reasoning. In both cases, you'd be asking many players to abandon relationships with the server, factions, characters, other players, assets and potentially thousands of hours of progress and whatever else that progress may entail. I think it's become far too trendy to blindly criticize GTA:W. Don't get me wrong, I have the same problems with it that you do. That being said, I've been preaching for quite some time that, while yes I think true that the community objectively has some problems, simply dismissing every idea out of Nervous' head as bad is an overly elitist, unrealistic line of thinking. Truthfully, some of the scripts regarding businesses, dynamic item creation, map markers, and static info points are downright genius, and very literally go above and beyond facilitating role play, particularly for civilian role players. In short: how does LS:RP compete with other communities in this area, which has specifically been sidelined for years and which the community may be woefully underequipped to handle?

You have a point here too. Apparently I only came with a possible solution to the GTA:W's problem. Maybe there's something that can be done, and better. That's why we need some people to go rant in here, we could meet in the middle. I suggested something before and it was quickly dismissed by the other community. Maybe going for RPG elements is the go to. Players could upgrade house locks, alarms, etc, and based on that, the difficulty increases when it comes to breaking in. For the burglars, a /loot command starts a timer that discovers you items and it's automatic, giving you time to do /me properly. The command of breaking down the door could have a cooldown, so we don't have people going on sprees. The real problem is how do we find stashes? Basically what was happening before, was just asset safety. We still don't know much, would we be able to /v park cars if there's drugs/weapons in it? Will people roleplay having stashes in their houses when it's easier to buy the cheapest cars and /v park them full of stuff? There's still a bunch of questions left unanswered.

I certainly believe that even licensing has a pretty huge potential in terms of creating roleplay. It should be more focused on actually going IG and roleplaying rather than sitting on the forums and filling out forms. You're generally not wrong, I just disagree about the part of reducing the downtime in govt roleplay. I feel like the downtime and the slower pace of it is quite the essential part of it. Turning bureau of licensing into law enforcement doesn't make sense imo.

I don’t think LSRP has to try too hard to compete with GTAW tbh. I think GTAW is already full of people who don’t necessarily like the server, but they have nowhere else to go and play. It’s the only server that offers Text Based RP on GTA V and gets a decent playerbase. It’s unique. And with LSRP joining the party, people will see that and join just to play something different and potentially better. I’m sure we’ll go through our growing pains during the initial launch, but that’s to be expected. A community with this large of a following however will bounce back, and things will work themselves out eventually.

Legend!

Jdey is my son.

Baker has said in discord that the schemes will open to individual roleplayers down the line, yes.

You will, you will :3

Can't wait to roleplay with you again brother.

keep it the way it worked on samp. if you leave your house unlocked and you don't set the /stash point in a hidden/inaccessible location then anybody should be allowed to rp flocking.

Pizza stacks at the early days of 2009-2012 when it was full of people and the server was alive with maxed players every night

I'd like to see script support for whichever news agency manages to obtain a mass. Though, I think the entire concept of how the news system works in-game needs to be re-imagined. Flooding your screen with text-based chat is never ideal. I'm not sure of the best salutations but this needs to be looked into.

All news agencies have to be equal. Therefore having SAN as a faction and the rest forced to build up as companies is unfair.

There's a huge misconseption about what civilian roleplayers are. A lot of people seem to assume that a civilian roleplayer is just somebody who stands at the mall and does fuck all else, and if that's what you immediately think of when you think of civilian roleplay then I can confidently say that you have the completely wrong idea about it and should try to be more open about what civilian roleplay is. The bartenders and security guards in that club you went to, The taxi driver that picked you up, The guy doing taxes for businesses, That person you seen jogging along the beach, These are the people that make the world feel busy and alive. Do you really assume that every person you drive past is either a cop or a thug? When you actually roleplay in the civilian scene, you realise how many players are actually playing LSRP to, you guest it, roleplay something realistic. I've met so many amazing roleplayers who simply log on to socialise, go to work (an ic job like bartending, doing graphics, news reporting), go for a meal, then go home. I promise you that there are more people than you think roleplaying like this, and it's what fills up the world with normal, civilian people. When I was running Roze Enterprise we hired over 150 people across 2 years. Yes, one hundred and fifty people interested in civilian roleplay with one faction. We were one of the only civilian factions ever to provide full time jobs to anyone who was willing to put in the effort and trust me, a lot of people enjoyed roleplaying a full time job; bartending, doing security, trucking, whatever, with a team. The people that you see as mallrats are the same people that we turned away from the faction. You assume that they are civilian roleplayers, generally the people you are thinking of are just trollers. For a non-illegal faction, the amount of interest that we seen for civilian roleplay was overwhelming - Another civilian faction that did very well was Roux, which created a lot of jobs for the playerbase and created a lot of very high quality civilian roleplay. With good support for civilian roleplay it would be more common to see amazing civilian factions creating jobs and helping the economy, as well as filling in the empty space between illegal roleplayers and cops. If civilian roleplay was taken more seriously, you would see more IC businesses that are run realistically - Competing with other businesses, creating a job market etc, and not just a "front for my illegal faction". You would see in character news companies showing up to big events. You would see Los Santos University opening up and actually becoming stable. Civilian roleplay is the part that fills in all of the gaps to make the world feel alive, and not just a cops and robbers server. The two major issues that have been affecting the civilian scene are the economy, and the fact that a lot of people majorly misinterpret what civilian roleplay even is in the first place.

wsg my man

the less admin interference the better in my opinion. what's the point of having an admin spectate you just so you can roleplay something? i disagree with it and i'm really hopeful that the devs on lsrp will come up with a better system than some queue-based script that requires direct admin supervision.

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